Gods And Fathers
Gods And Fathers
Gods & Fathers
Ya’wanatan Ben Levi Israel
(Bishop Nathanyel) Give me Psalms 82 and 6…
(Cpt. Isaac) Psalm 82 and verse 6: I have said, ye are gods (ye are gods!!!!
(Bishop Nathanyel) Sisters said “that brother is no good, he’s lazy, unreliable, he broke, he ain’t good looking…” But guess what sisters? He’s god... He’s god…. He’s god!!!! (That’s right!!!)
(Bishop Nathanyel) Let’s look at that first, that’s what we want. Now this, put the link, I really liked this, I hope this can inspire us, and I’m sure it will. Did you put this up too, Reuben? This article…? Thank you… “Black Neighborhood Unites to open a grocery store”. Now this is profound, I love this thing. This is in North Carolina. “A North Carolina neighborhood has come together to open their very own grocery store after 15 years of being without one.” So for 15 years, if you want to go to the store you had to travel outside of your area to go to the store. “Much of northeast Greensboro, North Carolina used to buy their groceries from a local Winn-Dixie. But in 1998, despite being profitable, the store in the primarily black and lower-income community…” meaning poor white trash live there too… “…closed down due to the company relocating itself across the Southeast, according to Yes Magazine. The City of Greensboro attempted to listen to the demands of its citizens and find another grocery store willing to open in the area, but to no avail…” So black folks went out looking for somebody… “Mr. white man can you open a store in our community?” The white man said “NO…” So as a result, “Residents figured they would have to take matters into their own hands…” I love this thing… “if they wanted a reliable source of food, and in 2012, community members and leaders gathered to form the renaissance co-oop committee (RCC). The RCC dedicated themselves to learning the ins and outs of opening and maintaining a cooperative grocery store...” Meaning what, they took what? It stars with a “C” Who said it? COUNSEL, they sought counsel, they sought counsel, ho to do it. They were not familiar with, or had the understanding of, or the necessary knowledge on how to open up a grocery store. The ins and outs of it, what you need to do to succeed… Ok where am I at Abiel? Ok… “The RCC dedicated themselves to learning the ins and outs of opening and maintaining a cooperative grocery store according to the store’s webpage. In 2013 the RCC elected its board of directors for what would become the Renaissance community Co-op including a black president. Alright, so now let’s go down to that video… Does that video play right there? Ok, put the link up, for them online. So black folks got together with poor white trash and was able to do something, hehe… Now, this is just to inspire us as we come into this truth to do greater and better things. Come on…
(Elderly black woman) I want...
(Black boy) I want a grocery store.
(Elderly black man) I want a grocery store.
(Black Teenager) I want a grocery store in my neighborhood.
(White woman) My neighborhood...
(Elderly black woman) A place where community, health and wealth…
(Black man) Grow with every purchase.
(Black woman) We want a grocery store that we own.
(Black man) That we own.
(Little black girl) we own along with our neighborhood.
(Black woman) I need to be able to walk to my store.
(Little black girl) I want a store I can walk to.
(Black man) I want a store that offers good jobs…
(Black woman) and living wage.
(Elderly black man) Something that we could call our own, something that we could be proud of.
(Elderly black woman) We want...
(Black woman) We want…
(Black Teenager) We want a co-op.
(Black man) We want a co-op.
(Black man) We want a co-op…
(Black man) where the employees look forward to going to work.
(white woman) I want a grocery store that…
(Black woman) doesn’t pick up and leave.
(Black woman) That is giving back to me as I’m giving to it.
(Black woman) So we can decide what is sold in our neighborhood.
(Little black girl) I want a grocery store…
(Elderly black woman) where the profits go back into our community.
(Black man) I want a co-op that helps us raise healthy children.
(Little black girl) That keeps my daddy healthy.
(Black woman) We want a store that sells food, food.
(Little black girl) I want vegetables.
(Black man) I want vegetables.
(Little black girl) I want ice cream.
(Black woman) I also want ice cream.
(Elderly black man) I love me some ice cream.
(Black woman) But this is something that we can own a part of, don’t you want to join us? I hope you do. And you can also say it’s my store, make it personal, make it all about you. You could walk in with your head held high. You could walk in knowing that I played a part in this, that this is a legacy I can leave behind for my children, this is something that I can tell them forever, that we have put our mark here; that we have made this happen.
(Black man) Oh yeah…
(Bishop Nathanyel) Now that’s a good thing, that’s a very very good thing, and it definitely should inspire us. Go ahead…
(Deacon Yawasap) You know what’s powerful about that? It’s because just from doing that, that will open up other opportunities because they’re gonna need trucks to bring things in, they’re gonna need farmers, they’re gonna need all kinds of suppliers to work with this store, so that’s gonna aspire other avenues of business… okay? That’s what you gotta see when you see something like this here, because what it will do, it will spawn other ideas in other areas, and it will become a collective community type of thing, and that’s how you take over the planet, so you can understand, (exactly) by little examples like this. I just want to make another statement concerning the commercial that we saw, I listened to the part where they said that when he comes to work he can come in with his head held high (that’s right) the reason… what’s the difference between him holding his head up high when he’s coming to a job that he has part ownership, as opposed to going to somebody else’s job, when you own something you take pride in it, when it belongs to you, you will take stocks in it. You understand? We had this, me and Deacon Asaph, we had this conversation years ago when we were talking about the reason why they speak about the black communities, projects and so forth, the reason why it’s so run down, it’s because the people don’t own it. Once they begin to own it, then their mind, their mentality will change, that’s what happens when you own things… When you own things, you take stock in taking care of it… Usually… (Hahaha)
(Bishop Nathanyel) Give me Jeremiah 29 and lets’ start at verse 4. I want y’all to understand, understand that, we have a lot of work to do as Israel. Knowing that we’re Israel and the white man is the devil, that ain’t the end all. There’s more work that needs to be done... Getting people’s minds right, we have to set in order, come on Capt.
(Cpt. Isaac) Jeremiah chapter 29 and verse 4: Thus saith the Lord of host, the God of Israel, unto all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem, unto Babylon (this is during the time of Nebucanedzzer, go ahead) Build ye houses and dwell in the,
(Bishop Nathanyel) Now remember we were gonna be in Babhylon, Ancient Babylon for how many years brothers? 70 years, 7-0. We’ve been here in this spiritual Babylon for almost 400 years, watch what he says, verse 5 again
(Cpt. Isaac) Build ye houses and dwell in them, and plant gardens, and eat the fruits of them.
(Bishop Natanyel) now I know in Texas they have a… maybe I don’t word it right. They have a… What they got? A farm, right, they have a farm. Go ahead…
(Cpt. Isaac) Take ye wives and beget sons and daughters, and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands that they bear sons and daughters that ye may be increased there and not diminished
(Bishop Nathanyel) any Israelite that tells you; although we’ve been here 400 years, do not obey what we just read, he’s an idiot and if you listen to him, you’re an idiot… “We aint got to get no homes or houses, we ain’t got to do nothing… Christ coming back tomorrow.” You’re simple as hell… Yeah but you can get a white woman right? Read on…
(Cpt. Isaac) And seek the peace of the city wither I have caused you to be carried away captives
(Bishop Nathanyel) when it says “Seek the peace of the city” that doesn’t mean don’t teach the bible. You’re still supposed to teach the truth out there. But don’t be doing what? Breaking laws, that’s all he’s saying, don’t be robbing and stealing, raping, don’t do that! That’s what Jeremiah’s telling us, read that verse again.
(Cpt. Isaac) And seek the peace of the city where I have caused you to be carried away captives and pray unto the Lord for it, for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace
(Bishop Nathanyel) And we want peace. Now… Now, now, now, now, listen, listen… Get me Sirach 37, cause it said that they sought, they consulted first, before they got that grocery store. So that’s something that our people hate to do, a lot of our people don’t like to seek counsel. Sirach 37, let’s start at verse 7.
(Cpt. Isaac) The book of Sirach chapter 37 and verse 7: Every counselor exalteth counsel, but there is some that counseleth for himself
(Bishop Nathanyel) So Sirach is saying to us, be mindful when you counsel, some people counsel for themselves… Meaning they wanna counsel you, but it’s gonna benefit them in the long run, read on
(Cpt. Isaac) Beware of a counselor, and know before what need he hath, for he will counsel for himself lest he cast a lot upon thee
(Bishop Nathanyel) so before you counsel with somebody, know what need he has, before you counsel with him. I told you this story before… Years ago we would counsel about “Is pornography wrong?” Now half of the brothers on the counsel was in love with pornography. So those are the wrong ones to counsel with, why? Because they liked it… Know what need he has before you counsel with him, read on…
(Cpt. Isaac) Verse 9: And say unto thee, thy way is good, and afterwards he stand on the other side, to see which shall befall thee (hmmm, go head) Consult not with one that suspecteth thee. (don’t consult or counsel with someone that doesn’t like you, he or her has a issue with you, he suspects you of evil, don’t counsel with them, go ahead) And hide thy counsel from such as envy thee. (and somebody that’s jealous of you or hate you, don’t share your counsel with them, go ahead) neither counsel with a woman touching her of whom she is jealous
(Bishop Nathanyel) you see a sister you’re interested in right? She walks through the doors, “oh she’s pretty she looks good”, but you know the sister to the right is mad jealous, she’s sitting… “look at her, she thinks she’s cute”. Now you wanna talk to that sister to ask her what she think about that new sister that walked in. You think she gonna counsel you right? NO she gonna say “she ain’t s-h”, “she this”, “she ain’t right”, “she got aids”, you might hear that, hahaha…
(Cpt. Isaac) Neither with a coward inn matters of war
(Bishop Nathanyel) Here we going to war, and you counsel with somebody who’s never been in a fight, he don’t know nothing about war, “what do you think brother?”… “Agree with your adversaries quickly and run…” What the hell is this? Right…“we need to take out insurance, life insurance policy to go to camp”. We’ve heard that before, we have heard it! Don’t counsel with a screamy scaredy cat brother about war… you men understand that? (Yes sir) So you Captains be careful, now everybody in here ain’t mighty men, everybody say “I’M A MIGHTY MAN yeaahhh…” It might be “mighty mouse” but you ain’t mighty man. Some of you taking the test, I’m telling you, Captains listen good… You got some brothers who are very good with the scriptures, but they’re scaredy cats, be mindful of these spirits, then they take… “I wanna lead the camp”, are you kidding me? So you can’t have a coward over a camp brothers, or scaredy brothers in camp, you gotta just chill, wait til you build your spirit up. Where we at Captain Isaac?
(Cpt. Isaac) Verse 11: (go ahead) nor with a merchant concerning exchange
(Bishop Nathanyel) right, cause he gonna counsel you so he gets the best wages that favor him or her, go ahead
(Cpt. Isaac) nor with a buyer of selling, (huh uh) nor with an envious man of thankfulness
(Bishop Nathanyel) don’t talk with a niggard about being thankful, he or she don’t have that spirit on them, go ahead)
(Cpt. Isaac) nor with an unmerciful man touching kindness
(Bishop Nathanyel) you got a brother who don’t know nothing about mercy you wanna counsel with him about mercy? It’s the wrong one to do it with, go ahead)
(Cpt. Isaac) nor with the slothful for ANY work
(Bishop Nathanyel) you gonna talk to the laziest brother in Israel about starting your own business, YOU’RE CRAZY! You talk to Mr. Sloth himself! Haha, go ahead
(Cpt. Isaac) Nor with an hireling for a year of finishing work (Go ahead) nor with an idle servant of much business. Hearken not unto these in any matter of counsel
(Bishop Nathnayel) so the Bible tells you who not to listen to when it comes to counsel
(Bishop Kani) When it says, “nor with an hireling for a year finishing work”, what does that mean? When it says “nor with an hireling for a year finishing work”, meaning the hireling doesn’t want the job to end, so he’s not gonna work to get it done, he’s gonna give you reasons why it has to continue going on and on and on, alright? Hahahaha right…
(Bishop Nathanyel) Where we at Captain?
(Cpt. Isaac) verse 12 (come on, watch this) But be continually with a godly man, whom thou knowest to keep the commandments of the Lord, whose mind is according to thy mind and will sorrow with thee if thou shalt miscarry
(Bishop Nathanyel) So Sirach says, be continually with a godly man, one whom you know keeps the commandments, that’s the first thing you brothers and sisters, know, before you deal with counsel, go ahead)
(Cpt. Isaac) and let the counsel of thine own heart stand, for there is no man more faithful unto thee than it (come on) for a man mind is sometime wont to tell him more than seven watchmen that sit above in high tower
(Bishop Nathanyel) so that’s when in your mind, you already have your mind set on what you’re going to do, once you do it, do what you’re gonna do, go ahead
(Cpt. Isaac) and above all this, pray to the most High, that he will direct thy way in truth
(Bishop Nathanyel) So the main thing above all thing you want to pray to the Lord before you take part on any matter, go ahead
(Cpt. Isaac) Let reason go before every enterprise and counsel before every action
(Bishop Nathanyel) now that’s the part I really want to get to, read 16 again
(Cpt. Isaac) Let reason go before every enterprise and counsel before every action (Go head read it again) Let reason go before every enterprise and counsel before every action (So what we saw in Greensboro North Carolina they took counsel, they reasoned about a supermarket. Now I’m getting somewhere with this, I’m getting somewhere with it. We just read who not to counsel with in business correct brothers? Ok, so now… We’re gonna get to the topic, I know… I have not gotten to the topic yet but now we getting to the Godfather topic… *Sigh* In this truth, we need a lot of things. We have a lot of teachers, brothers are excellent teaching from state to state and that’s good, that’s wonderful but based upon what we read in Jeremiah 29, there are other things we need in this truth… Brothers be getting in trouble we need lawyers about that, we need nurses, we need teachers cause we want our children to learn from us, rather than send them to the middle class white woman or man in your school system, public schools, who are the offspring of the civil rights movement who was “Pro-segregation”, who hated black kids being in school with white kids. These are our teachers now, of our children. So we want to get to a point where we teach our own kids. Ok, everybody understand that? We need doctors, we need a lot of things, we need a lot of things, so it will behoove a lot of you brothers and sisters, if you’re in school, continue, if brothers and sisters come in the truth, they’re in school, encourage them on. Brothers, listen good, you get some sisters you marry, some sisters, they go “Oh, I’m married now.. Guess what’s one the first thing they do? Drop out of school…. That’s a no no, that’s a no… When a sister, I’m gonna start with a sister, when a sister she decides “I’m gonna drop out of school”, she’s telling you “I want to be your ball and chain”. She’s not there to be a ball and chain for you brothers. She’s there to be what brothers? He said that thing quick. A HELP MEAT… DAMN IT, bang the table, a help meat! Hahahaha… Husbands, husbands and wives, are the physical manifestation of Christ and the church. I’m gonna say it again… Husbands and wives are the physical manifestations of Christ and the church, give me that in Ephesians 5. That might have went over some of y’all heads, well what do you mean by that? Paul taught you a great mystery about marriage, some of you young men don’t understand marriage, always wanna get married.
(Cpt. Isaac) Ephesians 5 and verse 31: For this cause shall a man leave father and mother
(Bishop Nathanyel) shall a man leave his father and mother. Sisters, some of y’all get hooked up with some of these men and they will not leave father or mother, they are your proverbial “Mama boys” and if you decide sister without counsel “I’m gonna marry him…” Shame on you. We’re not gonna counsel with you every week, because you sister, are a dummy. We told you, you have been warned, he’s a mama’s boy, he’s not ready yet, he still leaves with mommy and daddy. “I’m gonna marry him, he looks sexy” Well you go ahead and marry him then… We ain’t counsel with you week after week because, now here she comes… “He always put his mama first. His mama says this… And I’m pregnant” Sister, you is a dummy…. We warned you in the beginning you didn’t listen to us…
(Bishop Kani) Or you didn’t seek counsel prior to getting with him cause there’s a lot of situations, they don’t come to us as fathers in this truth and ask us, what do they see. And I don’t care what age you are, you come in this truth you may be 50 years old, you came in here last week, you’re a week old. And you come in here, and these guys, you had this sidebar because you think of age, you’re speaking and you get caught up, then after the fact, then you come to us to fix it. We can’t fix it now. Too late you’re married…
(Bishop Nathanyel) Exactly, you got a big baby Huey on your hands. “My momma done told meeee….” Hahahahaha… Read that again Captain
(Cpt. Isaac) Ephesians 5:31: For this cause shall a man leave father and mother
(Bishop Nathanyel) So the first thing you brothers need to understand when you decide to get married, leave your mommy and daddy.
(Cpt. Isaac) And shall be joined unto his wife (And joined unto his wife) And they two, shall be one flesh (Come on) This is a great mystery (Yall hear that? Marriage is a great mystery, go ahead) but I speak concerning Christ and the church
(Bishop Nathanyel) Marriage represents Christ and the church, that’s what we as a people have not realized yet. We just think its marriage. NO! Brother you represent Christ in the house! The woman represents the disciple in the house! So, brothers cry “I want a wife brother, I want a wife” Brothers cry “I want to get married, I want a wife, I want a wife, I want a wife” Not realizing the level of responsibility they’re asking for. You men, when you say you want a wife, you are saying you are ready for a level of responsibility you have never seen before. And some of you brothers, you want to get married but you don’t realize your responsability to your wife in this truth. Sisters, some brothers want to marry you, not to build a family at all, they don’t want to build a family, they want, as I said, that sexual relief. “When I get that feelinnng” You know? That’s all they want, that’s all they want. Then you sisters realize that you have laid down with a black devil, a black or Latin devil. Cause he ain’t about nothing, he laying home scratching, that’s all he do, he don’t work, he don’t provide nothing. Alright… And then once they get that release, the real them comes out, that’s how men are. Once we… Once we…. (Explode…) Explode, you know… Pouuaaaahhhhhh…. Whoooo You’re gonna see the real us, within an hour or two, you’re gonna see the real us. Brothers I’m gonna tell you something, women are not as easy as that, the real them it takes a little while longer. Right, thank you, they’re more reserved before you see the real them. Brothers… See the real them will come out within an hour after our release… women it takes a month or two. You’re gonna notice a few things with some women brothers: you’re gonna notice A) they dropped out of school, some of them… Uhhh, they don’t want, some of them don’t want to work… “I want you to take care of me, I know we need two family incomes but I want you to provide for me”, just lay, “imma lay here”. Right, they don’t wanna be corrected, don’t tell them nothing, you’re gonna hear “ you ain’t my daddy” we gonna talk about that in a second… Right right, “you’re a lion in your own house….” Sisters Imma let y’all know, some brothers in Israel are immature, immature…. They are not ready to take the position that Christ took for Israel, so these are things you have to look at, and if you sisters are not wise enough to see that, seek counsel. And we, will tell you, us up here, or some of the captains, just talk, we’ll let you know if a brother’s ready yet, or no no, not ready yet. That brother right there, that’s a hands-on brother. She goes “Oohh, I like that”, no I don’t mean that way… He’s violent, that’s what I’m tal--- he got a temper… Be mindful of getting with that brother, til he’s able to calm his spirit down and deal with situations. Some brothers wanna punch you in the mouth first and ask questions later. Go ahead
(Bishop Kani) And this is for the brothers and sisters. If you all would take full advantage of the leadership that you have here and ask these questions, you’d be surprise how much problems you can get yourself out of. There’s so much stuff that we know, and we don’t share with people but as counselors we do know and we could navigate you but for some reason, our people, I could count on one hand, with four fingers left over, how many people listen to counsel concerning marriage. That is the single biggest decision you will make in this truth other than coming into the truth. It’s who you pick as a spouse. Children, they’re born to you, the woman or a man you pick, you’re making a conscious decision, at least it should be conscious, decision, a spiritual decision of who you choose to align yourself with for the rest of your life, and I’ve seen so many times people screw up at this, because they’re led by their rod or whatever the else is, and then after the fact they got problems and there’s no fixing it, unless somebody dies… Ok. (hahaha)
(Bishop Nathanyel) Get Tobit 8 and 6, Tobit 8 and 6… Right, you can’t kill him either. Can’t kill him… Marriage is an institution taht is foreign to blacks and latinos. Very foreign to them, what’s that I can’t spell marriage… Yeah… Right, Tobit 8 and 6, Captain…
(Captain Isaac) The book of Tobit chapter 8 verse 6: Thou madest Adam and gavest him Eve his wife, for an helper and stay.
(Bishop Nathanyel) So what was Eve’s purpose? What was she? A helper and stay, a, keyword, HELPER, helper, not balling chain, helper, I hope you women understand that. “I wanna get married, im just gonna lay around the house”. NOO! Youre supposed to be an helper and stay. Yes, look it up, can we look up that word helper?
(Captain Yoshua) I looked in my thing and helper was real plain, but then it tells you “help”. So “help” says: “To give or provide what is necessary to accomplish a task or sastisy a need, contribute strength or means to, render assistance to, cooperate effectively”. (Hmm, Cooperate effectively) “with aid, assist” (Did that say argue?) “Cooperate effectively”
(Bishop Nathanyel) y’all hear that, I hope you women hear that, cooperate effectively
(Captain Yoshua) Do we have to look up coooperate, (I hope not, I hope y’all know what that mean) and effectively?
(Bishop Nathanyel) Yeah just in case, you know some people like to play stupid. Cooperate, I don’t know what it mean--- “Act jointly, work toward the same end”. That’s what it means, not fight against… The disciples was not going against Christ, yes… I can’t see… where? Oh, “assist someone or comply, comply with their request”.
(Captain Yoshua) Can I read one? Let me read one, let me read one. “To work or act with another or other person’s willingly” (Willingly!) And aggreably…
(Bishop Nathanyel) So, we read in Tobit, she’s to be an helper an stay, a pillar of rest… Watch this. Get me Tobit 2, Tobit chapter 2 verse 11 and 12. When Tobit got blind, his wife showed him, proved to him, she said “I got your back baby, I got your back”. Watch what she did. He couldn’t work no more, Tobit couldn’t work, he was blind 8 years… Come on
(Captain Isaac) Tobit chapter 2 and verse 11: And my wife Anna did take women’s works (my wife Anna did take women’s work, go ahead) to do. And when she had sent them home to the owners, they paid her wages
(Bishop Nathanyel) so because Tobit was blind, his wife went out and got women’s works, she said “don’t worry, we are not going to be broke”, I got what? Give me the word she had… JOB, oh how about that, “Skills” So sisters, if you want, if you know… Now, when sisters talk to brothers, brothers talk to sisters, there’s nothing wrong with saying “Do you have a job?” That’s number one. And brothers don’t get mad, you should not get mad if a woman ask you “do you have a job”. In the world brothers would get mad, “what she ask me that for?” Because why? All we want is sex and then get out. Ask me if I got a job for. Now here’s the turnaround, today’s brother is asking sisters does she got a job. You know why brothers ask sisters that? Cause he want to lay around and scratch. That’s pimp 101, Pimpology 101. Now, did you read, what verse did you read down to? (Verse 12) You read down to 12? (Yes sir, I didn’t finish it yet) Go ahead, finish it, come on.
(Captain Isaac) And when she had sent them home to the owners, they paid her wages and gave her also besides a kid. And when it was in my house and began to cry I said unto her: From whence is this kid, is it not stolen?
(Bishop Nathanyel) Right, so he knew how much a kid, which is either a baby lamb or goat, it cost a lot, he said this is more than your wages, where did this come from? Go head
(Captain Isaac) Render it to the owners (he thought, Tobit thought she stole it, but she said what? Go ahead) for it is not lawful to eat anything that is stolen. But she replied upon me
(Bishop Nathanyel) Notice it says she replied upon him, not TO him, upon him. Meaning, there was a argument there, about this little animal, go ahead
(Captain Isaac) It was given for a gift, (“I got this as a gift, my lord”, go ahead) More than the wages, howbeit I did not believe her.
(Bishop Nathanyel) He didn’t believe her, letting you know, all the marriages in the bible were not perfect, but because they weren’t perfect, they didn’t say what? “I’m leaving you, cause we argue”. Go ahead
(Captain Isaac) Howbeit, I did not believe her, but bade her render it to the owners and I was abashed at her. But she replied upon me, where are thine alms and thine righteous deeds? Behold, thou and all thy works are known
(Bishop Nathanyel) She got the gifts because of Tobit’s good works. That’s why the people that work, that she worked for gave her that gift, because of her husband’s works. So, now… Right he was well known in the gates, thank you. Some sisters don’t realize their role in this truth… I know I’m talking about Godfathers, they over there “Why are you talking about the women again?” I thought the name of the class was “Godfathers”… Hahaha. Some sisters don’t realize their role in this truth is to be a helper, a helper.
(Captain Isaac) Titus chapter 2 and verse 3: The aged woman likewise, that they be in behavior as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things (Hmmhmm) that they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands
(Bishop Nathanyel) So that has to be taught, some of you brothers you’re in such a rush, such a rush, you know who you are. You know, brothers know who you are because you’re complaining now about the woman you just married, the house is filthy, she don’t know how to wash clothes, she don’t know how to clean, she don’t know how to cook, now you’re complaining. “Brother you didn’t figure that out, before when you were talking to one another?” NO, because you’re looking in her eyes, she’s looking in your eyes. No brothers don’t look in sisters’ eyes… Where do we look? But now you’re paying the price, you realize she can’t cook, she can’t clean, she can’t do nothing. And she’s eating all the food you bring from the Chinese restaurant, all that food… She’s just sitting around eating and she’s getting wider and wider, now she look like a linebacker (damn) Give me Sirach 26:16
(Bishop Kani) I want to say something… The only reason why that’s happening… And every marriage, there’s gonna be trouble, but the scriptures are here to learn from, to know how to fix, how to make it work. But it’s happening because you men tolerate that stuff in the house… You tolerate it, and many times you tolerate because you’re afraid to say something, or afraid to put your foot down. You have to demand, like with Christ, like with the Most High, Most High demanding what he wants from his son, Christ demanding what he wants from us, we have to demand. We have to be godly man first and foremost, I’m not talking about a nigga man that beat or verbal abuse or whatever might be, their women. But we have to set, when the scripture says he that begets a wife, begets a possession, meaning you’re building, you’re building towards something and her being a help meat, she has to fall in line with your program… So if you’re a man, and I saw the Deacons made a comment on Glide… If you are the provider for your household, why are we… I’m sorry, I’m digressing, why do we have to explain why we eat first? If you are the provider for your household, why do you have to come home and do dishes? You gotta be out your mind… I’ll do dishes if I want to do dishes, and I don’t want to do it… (Exactly, hahaha) I don’t want to do it… But when a gunman comes through that door, I’ll be the first one out the bed…
(Bishop Nathanyel) Where we at Isaac?
(Captain Isaac) Sirach chapter 26 verse 16: As the sun when it ariseth in the high heaven, so is the beauty of a good wife in the ordering of her house
(Bishop Nathanyel) The ordering of her house, I’ll tell you, I went over, when I was in Texas, I was at Deacon Shachyah’s house… The first thing I said soon as I sat down, I said “Deacon this is a lovely place, and I know sure as hell you didn’t decorate this place. You can always tell when brothers come to my house, you know I didn’t decorate that thing. I had stains on the wall all kinds of stuff, but it’s the woman’s job, in the ordering of the house, she makes it look nice, now… some of you brothers, you young ones, particularly you, you hooked up with a sister, she don’t know how to decorate nothing, she don’t know how to paint, she don’t know how to do nothing, we need Barbanus to come over and fix everything up… Barbanus can you do this for me? This woman doesn’t know how to do nothing and I’m at work… So you gotta be mindful, very mindful…
(Bishop Kani) And with the woman… we understand that, we’re coming at a generation, especially the woman, you may not have mothers that did it, but you have to have the willing spirit ready to learn… You have to wanna learn and that’s why you have the elder sisters to go to so you can learn from them. Also with you men, you men are learning how to be men, you have to come for counsel, to learn how to fix it. All these scriptures we’re going over, is that we can fix the black family that we can work together. Alright?
(Bishop Nathanyel) Exactly… So now, sisters sitting there going “But my man is no good, he’s no good, he’s shiftless, he don’t work, he don’t even compliment me on nothing, he don’t compliment me” Sister says that brother is no good, he’s lazy, unreliable, he’s broke, he ain’t good looking. But guess what sisters… He’s god… (That’s right!!!) Hey all the brothers ain’t clapped Abiel, they don’t understand what’s going on, let me say it again, HE’S GOD!!!! (That’s right!) Sisters ain’t clapping at that, look at that. Hmmhmm… Oh ok all praises, all praises, some of them are clapping, some of them are clapping… they have redeemed themselves. Some of them are sitting there, going like “HmmHmm” Read me that scripture, some of them online going “What he mean, he’s god? There’s only one God”, give me Psalm 82 and 6
(Captain Isaac) Psalm chapter 82 verse 6: I have said ye are gods (I have said ye are gods!!! Go ahead) And all of you are children of the most High (and all of you are children of the Most High, go ahead) But ye shall die like men
(Bishop Nathanyel) but you shall die like men… That means we went into slavery, we lost our power, we lost our authority, we lost everything sister… We lost everything, even in slavery the white man made sure, we didn’t have a leg to stand on. We get married, they would take our wives and take her to the next county to get another man, that’s what happened. Then they introduced welfare, they said “ok we’re gonna pay for your food, clothing, water, shelter, but you can’t have a male figure in the house. Some women said, “Ok I want that”. And you know what, the woman that complains about the man ain’t no good is the same ones who would be on public assistance, at the welfare who have accepted the white man’s financial handicap to your life, and then complain… Sister, wait a minute, did you accept the public assistance so there can be no man in the hosue? Yes. So now why in the same voice you’re saying “the man is no good, he ain’t home?” HE CAN’T BE HOME! What’s wrong with you? Are you crazy? Read that again.
(Captain Isaac) But ye shall die like men
(Bishop Nathanyel) But men, we have died, like men. Gods, we have died like men… Notice there’s an “S” on that word god, it’s talking about the men of the Most High, his sons. Get me, give me New Testament now, Romans 8:19. Brothers listen good, sisters listen good to this thing here.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Romans chapter 8 and verse 19: For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
(Bishop Nathanyel) Sisters I want you to understand something about that no good, lazy, shiftless unreliable black man or Latin man… Everybody is waiting for his manifestation of the sons of God. The entire planet earth is waiting for him to take his rightful place (That’s right) And sister, you will get your glory only when he gets his glory. Your glory is to support him, when you support him and he gets into that throne, you gonna get your honor, your praise, all that you look for, you shall have. But if you are a scorpion, always biting him, stinging him, oh you gonna get something alright. Get me Ezekiel 34:31. Sisters always complain, some sisters, let me reword my words, some sisters complain “Oh the bible is written in a masculine form” Some scriptures ain’t written in a masculine form, we’re gonna read them tonight too.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Ezekiel chapter 34 verse 31: And ye my flock, the flock my pasture are men
(Bishop Nathanyel) That’s right!!! Everybody need to understand that thing, God says “the flock of my pasture are men”… not women, MEN! So sister, he might be no good, unreliable, shiftless, but that’s why he’s here to get his mind right… He might not be marriage material yet, but give him time, we’re working with him, we’re working with him, we’re trying to build him up, and when he’s ready for you, we gonna say “alright sister, he’s ready for you, take your king, take your lord”, haha. And it’s a beautiful thing, when you follow that order, Give me Proverbs 8 and 4.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Proverbs chapter 8 and verse 4: Unto you o men, I call. And my voice is to the sons of men
(Bishop Nathanyel) yall see that thing, that thing is beautufil, and my voice is to the sons of man. “Does that mean that God doesn’t deal with women brother?” No, it don’t mean that, but there is an order, and man is first, numero uno, primo, understand that… It’s never the other way around… Now, now here we go, here we go… Isaiah 13:12… Isaiah 13:12 brothers, you are the Godfathers… You are, and this class is gonna big you up, we gonna strengthen you, we gonna help you, and if the sisters are in the right frame of mind, she gonna do the same thing.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Isaiah chapter 13 and verse 12: I will make a man more precious than fine gold (Y’all see that? Go ahead) even a man, than the golden wedge of Ophir
(Bishop Nathanyel) I will make a man, cause right now men, we ain’t nothing in society… Last hired, first fired, women get the better jobs, they’re put in positions of authority over the men, that’s all right, that’s okay. Understand, understand there’s examples in the Bible. There was an example in the scriptures of a sister, who was made head over an entire empire. Ok, give me the book of Esther, give me the book of Esther. Sisters, sisters, sisters listen good, you might, when you leave home sisters, some of y’all in here got good jobs, I know I know, sisters online, we get emails all the time, they got good jobs. Very good jobs and they make very good money. You want to get with a man, who understands but more importantly sister, you want to understand your role, because some women think, “I make more cheddar than you, I’m better than you. I’m running things up in here. I run the house, I wear the pants in the house”. Let’s see if Esther said that there…
(Captain Isaac) Esther chapter 9 verse 29: Then Esther the queen, the daughter of Abiel and Mordecai the Jew wrote with all authority to confirm the second letter of Purim.
(Bishop Nathanyel) So when you read this history, Esther used her authority to benefit who? Israel… She didn’t forget… I mean she did forget, Mordecai had to put her in the right frame of mind, but when she got back in her right frame mind she used her authority over the entire Persian empire to save her people Israel, that’s what she did. That’s what women got to have in their mind. They have a position of authority, okay let me use this to help my people. Let me use my, the monies I make to support my nation, my people, my family… My husband! Give me 1 Corinthians 11 and 3 now. So now, sister, you understand as a helper and stay, you have to use your power, your authority, your know-how to support your nation of Israel, support your family, support your husband, that’s your job, when you have that authority in the world. And men, if you marry a sister, who has authority in this world, don’t pull her down, don’t try to destroy her. Come on…
(Captain Isaac) 1st Corinthians chapter 11 and verse 3: But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ and the head of the woman is the man
(Bishop Nathanyel) That’s what the Lord is looking for, He’s only looking for women that acknowledge that thing. When a woman has an attitude and does not acknowledge it, the Lord can’t use her. She’s in that Christian, 50/50, my way or the highway frame of mind, God cannot use her. Maybe in the evil sense he can, but not in righteousness cause her mind ain’t right. Now, give me Galatians 3, cause here’s the Christian woman’s ammunition against all the scriptures we read, the Christian women will run there. Galatians 3:28-29.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Galatians chapter 3 and verse 28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
(Bishop Nathanyel) So the subject of verse 28 and 29 is being Abraham’s seed and heirs, what’s that next word? Heirs of what? (According to the promise) According to the promise. So, when Paul says, “there’s neither Jew nor Greek”, it’s in, keeping it in context, he’s talking about being an heir to promise, correct? So being an heir, when he says there’s neither Jew nor Greek, who can explain that part right there? There’s neither Jew nor Greek. One, two hands, three hands… Let me hear Reuben, I haven’t heard you tonight.
(Officer Reuben) The history between Israel and the Greeks is 2 Maccabees 6:6 through 9, when Ptolomee said you know, Israel you can’t keep the customs of the Israelites, you have to be converted to be a Greek. So when Paul was saying that here, he was saying the Israelites that was scattered abroad who were Greek, they were keeping the Greekish laws, not the Israelite laws, that mean they were calling themselves Greeks, or whatever they were.
(Bishop Nathanyel) So in essence, when he’s saying there’s neither Jew nor Greek, meaning all Israel is gonna be heirs of the promise. Everybody understands that? So now it says there is neither Jew nor Greek, bond nor free, what’s that part? Bond nor free? Bond nor free… Bond nor free… This young man right here, Jezreel you said your name was? (Yes sir) Okay, bond nor free…
(Brother Jezreel) Meaning slave or no slave…
(Bishop NathanyeL) Okay, give me the scripture, I believe it’s in Acts, it might be 21:22, where they asked Paul how did you get this freedom. I want that one. Acts 22 and what verse? (28)
(Captain Isaac) The book of Acts chapter 22 and verse 28: And the chief captain answered (Start above it, start above it)
verse 27: Then the chief captain came and said unto him: Tell me art thou a Roman? He said yea and the chief captain answered…
(Bishop Nathanyel) Stop… Paul had Roman citizenship. Roman citizenship gave you, what’s that… carte blanche. To be a Roman citizen you were over all the other nations, when you had that roman citizenship, you were not under the same rules as the… uh what’s the word? As the regular Joe under Rome... The commoners, thank you, I like that word. Go ahead
(Captain Isaac) And the chief captain answered with a great sum obtained I this freedom
(Bishop Nathanyel) with a great sum obtained I this freedom, what freedom? To be a Roman citizen… To become a Roman citizen, you could travel where you wanted to go, that’s why, a lot of y’all don’t understand. Peter and them didn’t have the luxury to travel to Ephesus, and all these different places. Paul did. He was a Roman citizen, he could go here, he could go there. He wasn’t questioned the same way they were questioned. “Where are you going? What’s in your bag? He wasn’t always stopped at roadblocks, things of that nature. Okay? So there was a freedom that came with being a Roman Citizen, so when we go back to Galatians 3:28 and it talks about there’s neither bond nor free, meaning we’re all the same, whether or not you were a servant or you were a freeborn, Paul is saying we’re all, as Israel we all get the inheritance of promise. Now the question comes in, the next part of Galatians where it says there is neither male nor female, what’s that? Because Christians uses it to say, that means men and women are equal, equal… they’re right in that sense, but equal in the context of what? In being an heir of the promise. You men understand that? Being an heir to the promise that was given to our forefathers, there’s equality there. Because the husband could be the devil, the woman gonna get saved if she’s not or vice versa, you understand that? We’re heirs together, okay? So now, so now, Galatians 3:28 means we’re all heirs, it does not mean there is no order. The Most High loves order, even when it comes to the nation of Israel. Oh oh… You gonna get mad now, Labaa gonna get mad, look at his face. God loves order. Give me that, in Genesis 49 and 8, but we’re all heirs together. That’s why it says there is neither Jew nor Greek, when it comes to being an heir of promise, that’s true, there’s no difference between the kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of Israel which was Ephraim and the other 10.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Genesis… (But watch this) chapter 49 and verse 8: (Get mad) Judah thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise (Get mad now) thy hands shall be in the neck of thine enemies
(Bishop Nathanyel) The Most High said Judah, oh he looked at all the 12 tribes, he said “Judah, you’re the one thy brethren shall praise” let’s see why. It says thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies. Why, give me Zechariah 12 and 7… The Most High is about order. Now, I want you to understand, just because you’re Judah, don’t mean that you’re a part of the 144, some Judah are level 3 retarded, Imma tell you straight, some Judah ain’t right. Hahaha… You got that? Zechariah 12 and 7
(Captain Isaac) Zechariah 12 and verse 7: The Lord also shall save the tents of Judah first that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah
(Bishop Nathanyel) So the Most High said I’m gonna raise Judah first, they’re gonna be the teachers, they’re gonna be the ones in the forefront of this thing, that’s how the Most High set it up. Okay? Now, when it comes to the lands of Israel, there’s order. Of all the lots of land, give me that in Psalms 87, Benjamin’s favorite scripture, Psalms 87:1 through 3.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Psalms chapter 87 and verse 1: His foundation is in the holy mountains (that’s the land of Israel, come on) The Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. (The gates of Zion is Jerusalem, he says I love Jerusalem more than all the lands of Israel, go ahead) Glorious things are spoken of thee, o City of God, Selah
(Bishop Nathanyel) O city of God, Selah meaning all praises to the Lord, that’s what that means. It does not mean, Selah don’t mean Hailie Selassie, it don’t mean that… What the hell is going on here…? So now, I gotta get back to the men, I gotta get back to the Godfather topic, let me go back. Sisters, sisters… Your man, we have read that he is god on the earth, that don’t mean he’s the Most High, it don’t mean he’s Christ, but he is under that… give me the word… He’s under that title, right there, watch this, watch this, Numbers 30 and 1, come on.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Numbers chapter 30 and verse 1: (Let’s show you the man’s godlike authority) And Moses spake unto the heads of the tribes concerning the children of Israel saying: This is the thing which the Lord hath commanded, if a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth
(Bishop Nathanyel) So now, Moses reminded you Israelite men, whatever you say you gonna do, do it before the Lord, but now he says, he addresses the women, watch
(Captain Isaac) If a woman also vow a vow unto the Lord, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father’s house in her youth: (“being in her father’s house in her youth”. She’s a daughter, go ahead) And her father hear her vow and her bond therewith she hath bound her soul and her father shall hold her peace at her, then all her vow shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand
(Bishop Nathanyel) So the vowing went into, she goes before the Lord to send her prayers, praying to the Lord verbally, the father can hear her. Whatever she’s asking the most High for, wants him to do for her, if he doesn’t interject, everything that the daughter has prayed for, the Most High said: “because the father did not intervene she shall bind herself with what she says”, read.
(Captain Isaac) But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth
(Bishop Nathanyel) Meaning he hears the daughter say something stupid in that prayer… “Oh heavenly father, I want to marry Denzel Washington, make me, his wife…” “NO stop, that’s stupid; don’t pray for that”. Go ahead
(Captain Isaac) Not any of her vows or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand, and the lord shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
(Bishop Nathanyel) So the father has power to go before the Lord and say “Do not listen to her prayer; that was stupid, forgive her father”
(Captain Isaac) And if she had at all an husband
(Bishop Nathanyel) That is for you married sisters, who complain about your man being no good, shiftless, unreliable, a bum… go ahead
(Captain Isaac) When she vowed or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul; and her husband heard it and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it, then her vow shall stand and her bonds therewith she bound her soul shall stand (go ahead) But (But) if her husband disallowed her
(Bishop Nathanyel) meaning lord don’t listen to this simple wife of mine, that was stupid, don’t honor that prayer which she just vowed, do not honor that, go ahead
(Captain Isaac) On the day that he heard it, then he shall make a vow that she vowed and that which she uttered with her lips wherewith she bound her soul, of none affect, (of what effect) of none effect
(Bishop Nathanyel) Now that’s some power you brothers didn’t know you have, some women didn’t know, “he got authority to do that?” Yes, he is god!!! I’m telling you, so if you pray something stupid, brothers just … “Lord, don’t listen to that prayer; that was stupid, that was a feminist movement, do not listen”… “God, kill him I’m mad at him, he didn’t wash the dishes… like I asked him to do…” “Lord, don’t listen to nothing she’s saying… Go ahead.
(Captain Isaac) And the Lord shall forgive her but every vow… It goes into the widow now (I want it!) But every vow of a widow and of her that is divorced (this is for the women that is a widow, she don’t have a husband and she that is divorce don’t have a husband) wherewith they have bound their soul shall stand against her, and if she vowed in her husband’s house or bound her soul by her vow
(Bishop Nathanyel) so the widow or the divorced woman, whatever she prays it’s going to stand, Most High says: “okay, there’s no man there to shut it down, its gonna stand, as stupid as it is, it’s gonna stand”. Go ahead.
(Captain Isaac) And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not, then all her vow shall stand and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand, but if her husband had utterly made them void on the day he heard them, then whatsoever proceedeth out of her lips concerning her vows or concerning the bond of her soul shall not stand (Shall not stand, go ahead) Her husband hath made them void
(Bishop Nathanyel) Her husband hath made them, this is some powerful stuff here brothers, go ahead)
(Captain Isaac) And the Lord shall forgive her (And the Lord shall forgive her, come on) Every vow and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it (Her husband may establish it, go ahead) Or her husband may make it void (Or, her husband can shut it down, go ahead) But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day, then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds which are upon her: He confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them.
(Bishop Nathanyel) Be mindful you scaredy brothers, you hear the woman say something stupid and you don’t wanna say none because she might yell at you, you simple as hell, you bound yourself to that stupidity too… Go ahead
(Captain Isaac) But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity
(Bishop Nathanye) You’re gonna bear the iniquity she prayed something evil and stupid; it might be you own death… Hahaha… “God… kill… him!” and you don’t say nothing… okay, go ahead…
(Captain Isaac) These are the statutes, which the Lord commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father’s house.
(Bishop Nathanyel) So now, so now, does that mean, God does not deal with the woman? No it does nnot mean that. Now sisters when we read this, some sisters read about how the Lord used certain women, and they use those scriptures to go: “I am superior to the man; here go the ranking system is God, Christ, woman, then man”. They’re insane. Right, now you mentioned the word prophetess…Brothers listen, listen… If a sister has to tell you she’s a prophetess, chances are she’s the devil the bible speaks of. Because guess what, if she is a prophetess, it’s gonna come out, every brother is gonna acknowledge: “hey, sister stuff and stuff said this sometime ago, oh man the Lord is dealing with that sister”… It’s gonna be revealed. When she has to go to you and say: “I’m a prophetess, I’m a prophetess”, she’s the devil, she’s Juanita Bynum. Moses, Aaron and Miriam; out of those three, who was the main one, God was dealing with? Moses… Okay, Exodus 7 and 7… read that.
(Captain Isaac) The book of Exodus chapter 7 and verse 7: And Moses was fourscore years old
(Bishop Nathanyel) What is fourscore? 80. Moses was 80 years old when God was dealing with him when he repented and it says and Aaron what?)
(Captain Isaac) And Aaron fourscore and three years old when they spake unto Pharaoh.
(Bishop NathanyeL) Now here’s my question: Miram, was she younger or older than them both? She was older when you read Exodus 2, remember she was the one that walked the baby Moses down the Nile, remember, and it says when Pharaohs daughter saw the baby in that basket, it was Miriam that said do you want me to fetch a midwife for the baby, and Pharaoh’s daughter said yes, that’s when Miriam went and got the mother. Miriam was way older than Moses and Aaron. I said that for a reason. Just because Miriam was older, does that mean she was in charge? No, because what book and chapter is the proof of that? Numbers chapter 12, Numbers chapter 12… Now, in case nobody read this before, cause I know a lot of you are new, we’re gonna read a little bit of it, give me that Isaac.
(Captain Isaac) Yes sir. The book of Numbers chapter 12 and verse 6: And he said, hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold: Wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? (Because Miriam and Aaron were railing on Moses about the Ethiopian woman, go ahead) And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them; and he departed. And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle, and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow
(Bishop Nathanyel) So that proves that Miriam was a so-called black woman, that’s number one, number 2 it shows that the Lord ain’t dealing with loud mouth women. When you read in Exodus, was Miriam a prophetess?
(Captain Isaac) The book of Exodus chapter 15 and verse 20: And Miriam the prophetess, (oh oh) the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand: and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
(Bishop Nathanyel) Miriam the prophetess would lead the women in songs and dance, and that must have been a beautiful thing. See a whole bunch of women just singing and dancing honoring you. Oh, I can’t wait, they don’t want to sing and dance now, but you are gonna sing and dance… So Miriam was a prophetess, but she got out of order in Numbers 12 so the Most High had to smite her. “So although I’m dealing with you Miriam, POW POW!” Now there’s another one in Acts, it said that Philip had seven daughters. Acts 21 verse 9. I’m reading this to show you that the Lord does deal with certain sisters, who stay in order, who are respectful of the order. Come on.
(Captain Isaac) Acts chapter 21 and verse 9: And the same man had four daughters, virgins which did prophesy
(Bishop Nathanyel) Virgins which did prophesy... Now there’s two kinds of prophesying, one prophesying is when you’re reading the scriptures like it says in Revelation 19 about the spirit of… It says: the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. That’s when you go into the scriptures. The second kind is when you have dreams and visions of things which will come to past in conjunction with this, so that’s the second kind. So now, I’m going back, going back going back. So we read all of that to show that God does deal with women, he deals with men but there’s always an order, he deals with all the tribes, there’s an order, he loves all the lands of Israel but there’s an order.