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I am going to start a new church. How about you come along. We are going to love and learn together. Contest.

Updated on September 30, 2013

So happy. Why. Toan took this. I love that little refugee. And his wife and two kids.

That is your preacher man. Not pretty but let us love.
That is your preacher man. Not pretty but let us love. | Source

Our Church. What a concept? Our Lord. What an Idea.

Start a new church on line? Yes. What a concept that we can make our own church. We do not even have to get dressed up. We do not need to drive across town. A new church where everyone has the same access and position. You will not get this piece unless you follow it to the end.

About the contest -- it is in the last paragraph.

Here is the deal my squeamish friends. I love you and you love me.

You hate church. So be it. Do not get me wrong. I love to get together and preach and teach and I like the building I do it in, or outside under the big Norfolk pine. But I really do get people hating it and therefor leaving fellowship when the probably need it most.

Just let that soak in for a while.

How a bout we start our own here on HubPages. Do not worry I love Jesus. But I also love you. So I love Buddha, Cochise, the Dali Lama, even that guy Mohammed. I like stars and witches and shirts and britches. I like vegetarians and Mormons. I like Cowboys and Lawyers. Shucks I like democrats and republicans. I like flower gardens and deserts.

Them funny people, them folks who are not like me. Them funny folks who are just like me.

We will begin.


Picture this our warm little church

Miraculously transported there in our prayers.
Miraculously transported there in our prayers. | Source

That nose is not an accident. I earned it fighting. That funny hair is a result of Chemotherapy.

Did you expect an Angel. Ha ha ha. No baby I have been and will be lower than you. I hope you can look at me and say, " I am better than that preacher boy" because you are. Never forget you are better than me. That you can do better than me. That you can make more of an impact than me. That I am nothing compared to you. You are an Angel soaring above clouds that I cannot reach. You are a Victor in this place and I am but a servant made mad to help you see.

This is you not me. I am only your servant in life. Let me fail and you step on my shoulders.

I do not love myself, I am sorry. But I hope you love you.

Do you love you?

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Our church, will place upon me the burden to love you.

The calling of We. and Mine. We shall join our place and admit and accept each other.

Can you imagine a Eucharist on line. Hell's bell's it is spiritual not physical.

You all are going to be part of it.

Here is the first but not the first sermon.

If you are here do you hear?

Please stop and think. Perhaps I have earned your trust. Perhaps not. So hear this:

People will hurt you. Buck up. Sit on that. Think on that. Be that. You have hurt others. Others have hurt you.

What can we do? We can move forward in love. Ok that is crazy. I love you and you love me. Can you help me love X? No? What?

Let me tell you a story. And let me make sure you know this ain't about you and me.

We do not belong to ourselves. Then who do we belong to? Somebody. "Dang it bro who do we belong to?"

Not us. Not our needs but a better need. Do you get that?

So the church will not be about us. But a search for who we truly belong to.


Who be my people? these be my people

I am talking love here. Are you against that?

My boy and I picked up a rock on a big hike. We were amazed, We but it back.

What i am talking about is love. Are you?

Would it be nice to meet a few days a week and just put our practical in the spiritual.

Author's note about self deprecation and it's use.

The notion of not loving oneself or of being less than others is meant as a tool. The purpose is not meant to suggest you think you are lower than others. It is meant to let us all know what we know --- sometimes we feel that way, and yet we are still loved mightily.

Believe it or not there are people that feel that way about themselves. The use of this tool is to embrace them also and let them know that even if it were so, it would still be just fine for God.

Hey that could be the church you are thinking about

A place of refuge and community
A place of refuge and community | Source

The Contest.

Here is the contest. Conversion into ones church or denomination or religion is normally done through some type of carrot or stick routine. I am afraid for so many it is the stick. "if you do not follow my way then you are in big trouble". Of for others it is some claim of proof. And there are some that promise the promised land.

Here is a novel concept. In our church it is only by attraction*. It is only because people want to join us for the here and now. Because we are happy and loving. And the reason that we are happy is whatever you say it is. We can talk about fire and brimstone and that is good, just like an addict speaks of hitting his bottom. But this church does not threaten or intimidate. We do not want members bringing in new folks because they scared them into our church.

Do not get me wrong if someone is scared they are more welcome than I. But it would not be our place to do the scaring.

So the contest goes like this: Whoever brings in the most joy and happiness and testimonies and sharing of love and thereby converts someone into loving others and themselves and some notion of God. Well they get a reward. And guess what that reward is going to be.

The reward is a direct and immediate feeling of peace and contentment and oneness with that person. Pretty cool huh?



*actually not novel, you can ask Bill

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      H.B. Fortinberry 4 years ago from Connecticut

      The effects of the light of love transcending all resistance is what makes the power of God so "Awesome" as well as True.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      hfortinberry, your comment rings true. I know a man who does not believe one bit. Yet he attends a great church every Sunday. He cannot explain it and just accepts that it makes him feel good and he likes it. He is one happy atheist.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      wjlambert, Of course if we go looking for those two monsters we can see them in almost any church. I think there are those components in all things of man. So it is going to be there whether we like it or not. I trying to think of a verse in the Christian Bible that has the point of Christ going into a "church" to prays with His Father. I can see Him teaching there, and arguing there and performing miracles there and getting in a fight there, but I only see Him praying in Gardens and Mountains and deserts and "quiet" places.

      I do reckon that tells us something about "churches".

      If I walk into a church and do not feel the Love, I do not go back unless called to spread that Love.

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      H.B. Fortinberry 4 years ago from Connecticut

      wjlambert-interesting question. As one interested in the moving parts of a technological machine, the idea of some "thing" not operating according to a cause and effect analogy might indeed seem strange, and while the definition of church is not a building but rather the sum total of like-minded and like-hearted people, a body of human "believers", will never be successfully so analyzed.

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      Wes Lambert 4 years ago from Sunnyvale

      I'm curious about your prior experience with "Church". In your experience, is it always either a cult of personality or the carrot / stick analogy?

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Well I think we are ready to get started. Real slow and nice and easy. Another hub on this then we start.

      I am thinking it will always be open but we will have "service" from the best time world wide for roughly 8pm saturday to 8pm sunday. Probably we should do that HP time. It seems that Hub rather than forum would be good as we want more of discussion than long preaching.

      Instead of calling things by traditional names we will use easy talk.

      Thoughts are welcome

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      Paul K Francis 4 years ago from east coast,USA

      Pretty cool? Yes!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      People do not need to be lead. We just need to get together.

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      Devika Primić 4 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Sounds a great idea good on you!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I am working on it. Will write again on the matter soon. I am thinking of how to make it most inclusive and a time structure that would lead to involvement with others.

      Thanks for dropping a positive comment MsDora.

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      Dora Weithers 4 years ago from The Caribbean

      Pretty cool!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Well all be, you just started a great hub, I think others would like to hear that journey laid out -- I would. If you thought it was important enough to learn, me too!

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      H.B. Fortinberry 4 years ago from Connecticut

      I should, shouldn't I? You know I have spent the last four years consumed with learning and trying to gain insight into things that were so beyond me, and then I have spent the last year writing and editing a book ,that I almost don't know what to say... The field of thoughts is so wide now, it is hard to narrow my focus. I have been waiting on the Lord to provide me with His instructions as to my next move. Perhaps a Hub article might just be it! Thanks for the encouragement Erik, as well as the great words to which I have been inspired to respond!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      hfortinberry, I am waiting for a featured hub...... anxiously. I think you looky for happy and you find it.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Abby, just got done reading your latest and greatest. Folks this Hub goes hand in hand with what we are talking about here, controlling your mind spirit connection and using friends to enjoy the journey with.

      So you should go read:https://hubpages.com/health/Control-Your-Mind-Mind...

      That concept of meditation and prayer is so like this.

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      H.B. Fortinberry 4 years ago from Connecticut

      You always put a smile on my face, Eric. Thanks :)

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      Abby Campbell 4 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

      I so love your heart, Eric! I haven't been able to get online much as of late, but how I have missed reading your hubs. Boy, do I have a lot of catching up to do. Please let me know more about this online church or community. I definitely want in! :-)

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Seems like we already have a cool community. We just have to decide on a nice way to congregate. Synergism is awesome. Just you dropping by made my night. Muchas Gracias

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      H.B. Fortinberry 4 years ago from Connecticut

      It would be an honor to be "fitly joined together" with you all in some way. We can be the "'JOY'NERS." Thanks for the inspiring idea Eric!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Just like you Cam it is just how I roll. I spent enough years struggling. Now even the struggles don't effect my love.

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      Chris Mills 4 years ago from Missoula, Montana at least until March 2018

      "Dear friends, let us love each other, because love comes from God. Those who love are God’s children and they know God." `1 JOHN 4:7. I'm in my friend. I don't and won't do this perfectly, but it's really the only way to live. As for a reward, just knowing that I have lived in a way that made someone else's life a little more meaningful, a little richer, a little less dark; that's enough for me. I love the creativity and compassion that went into this hub.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Oh boy! thanks and we will see you there. I think we could really commune.

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      mylindaelliott 4 years ago from Louisiana

      Great idea, I want to come along.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks MarleneB, let us see where we are lead. Positive feedback on a Hub like this one is greatly appreciated.

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      Marlene Bertrand 4 years ago from Northern California, USA

      What a great reward. I'm all in for that! Your online church community is a great idea.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I always just loved "I'm OK, you're OK" Warm fuzzies to you and may you have a great week with only a few cold pricklies to spur you on.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ologsinquito, I like your thinking. I was thinking maybe just calling it a congregation. Meaning when folks congregate. I see some groups that call themselves an Assembly. Thanks much for visiting and sharing.

      (hey your work lately is showing a lot of love, sometimes the greatest love is in teaching better ways)

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Oh my Lady thank you for coming by and visiting this morning. Our one connecting truth is love.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I think that's about the best reward that I can imagine. The joy of giving is always the return that we receive...I call them warm fuzzies....sign me up for the contest, buddy!

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      ologsinquito 4 years ago from USA

      Eric, we need to love God above all else and love our neighbor as ourselves. I like the idea of an online community, but not a church, per say, because I am Catholic and want to stay in the Church founded by Christ Himself. He wants all of us to be one.

      The picture of the church near the mountain looks especially inviting.

      God Bless

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      Lady Summerset 4 years ago from Willingboro, New Jersey

      Beloved, let us love one another. For love is of God