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Is God Glorified When People Go to Hell?

Updated on February 17, 2019
God is all about his glory
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On a hub that I wrote, Is Universalism a Heresy? I was asked if God is glorified when people are sent to hell. We live in a society with high ideals and cannot understand how can a good God send anyone to suffer for eternity? We cannot fathom it, so it cannot be true. As soon as you think that you fully understand God and all of his ways, he ceases to be God and becomes an idol of your own making. God is always bigger than we can know. That is what makes him God. To answer this question correctly, we need to look at who God is and why people would go there according to the Bible and not opinion. The answer is that yes, God is glorified when people are sent to hell because it uplifts who he is. It may not be popular today, but the Bible clearly teaches about hell.

David Platt on God being Incomprehensible

God is Incomprehensible

God is well beyond anything that we can comprehend. He is eternal and has existed from eternity past and will exist into eternity future. We cannot fathom that because we have all had a beginning. Our point of reference is the 80 years or so that we will live on this planet. God never had a beginning and will not have an end. He is so powerful that He can simply speak the world into existence and create it out of nothing. Another thing that we cannot fully comprehend is that God is present everywhere. We cannot go anywhere to get away from God. The Bible reveals to us that God does not change, that He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Let us examine a few of God’s main attributes at a closer level.

Francis Chan Preaches on God's Holiness

God is Absolutely Holy

“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.” Isaiah 6:3

“For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you.” Psalm 5:4

One of the main attributes of God that we do not fully understand is his holiness. How can we, we are all fallen and sinful. God is infinitely holy and the definition of perfection and purity. No evil is found in Him, he is completely righteous. God’s holiness is the only attribute ever repeated three times because ancient writers did not use punctuation, so they would repeat things to show their importance. God’s holiness terrorized the Prophet Isaiah, which caused him to say “woe to me” when he was standing before God’s throne. The Apostle Paul makes it clear to us that his standard is perfection, we fall way short, and the punishment is eternal death (hell). God cannot even stand to be around evil.

God is Sovereign

“Oh, the depth of the riches of wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! ‘Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has ever been his counselor?’ ‘Who has ever given to God, that God should repay them?’ For from him and through him and for him are all things. To him be glory forever! Amen.” Romans 11:33-36

God is sovereign and in control of all creation. This is His universe and we are his creations. He has the freedom to do with us no matter what He chooses. It is easy to box God in and not stop to think that God is in control, yet the brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon were able to set off their bombs as intended. Tornadoes and other natural disasters strike all over the globe and yet God is still on his throne. Many times He uses events like these and other tragedies to draw people to Himself. Paul writes in Romans chapter 9 tells us that God raised up Pharaoh so that He could show His power against Pharaoh when He sent plague after plague on Egypt. Paul also wrote that God said that he loved Isaac and hated Esau. God does not owe his creation any kind of explanation. We cannot judge God with our finite minds because we may never know why He allows something while we are alive on earth. Conversely, we do not know how many times that God has saved us from tragedy. It is important to remember that He is God and we are not, especially since we are the ones who have broken His laws. We need to not give ourselves more importance than we really deserve. God is totally justified and glorified if He threw all of us into hell as punishment for breaking His law. That is what we deserve. Our offence is against a holy and righteous God.

David Platt on God Hating Sin

God Hates Sin

“But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God. And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.” Isaiah 59:2 NASB

“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life.” Romans 6:23

The Bible is full of references of God hating sin and the fact that he will punish sinners. Sin is any thought, word, or deed that is contrary to the will of God. One sin is enough to separate us from God for eternity. The New Testament tells us that if we have broken one commandment that we are guilty of breaking all of them. Sin separates us from God because it violates his nature. Isaiah and Paul both proclaim this separation. Look at Israel in the Old Testament; every time they grumbled against God, He quickly judged them. He punished Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and hailstones until the entire civilization was destroyed. Remember Noah and his family were spared from the wrath of God but the rest of the world was destroyed in a flood. God takes sin very seriously. After all, it is an affront to a holy God, whom we have offended with our disobedience. The Bible also tells us that the punishment for sin is eternal death or hell. We all stand eternally condemned before God. Praise God that He did not leave us in this state as He would be totally justified in doing. Rather, He sent his only Son to die for your sins and mine as we will talk about in the next section.

One of God's attributes is love.
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God is Love

“For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have eternal life.” John 3:16

John 3:16 is one of the most popular verses in the Bible. It is God’s answer to our fallen state. It tells us that God loves us enough to live among us as a human while being fully God and that He would rather be beaten to a bloody pulp and be nailed to a cross than to see us be sent to hell. This verse alone demonstrates God’s love and the seriousness of sin. It took God the Son, to leave heaven and experience the full weight of our sins that were placed on him as he suffered on the cross. He refused to leave us where we were. However, a distinction is made between those who believe and those who do not. Believers inherit eternal life and go to heaven; those who do not are still under damnation and will be sent to hell for eternity. Notice that it says “whosoever believes” shall have eternal life, leaving the obvious connection of those who do not believe. It tells us that there will be those who do not believe and they will experience eternal death (hell).

God’s nature and characteristics require him to judge sin. He is justified in sending all of us to hell because we are all guilty before him. His great love for us caused Him to send Jesus to die in our place and offer us heaven if we will accept His sacrifice and repent of our sins.

Dr. RC Sproul Answers the Question at Hand

Why God is Glorified When People are Sent to Hell

“What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, who he prepared in advance for his glory.” Romans 9:22-23

Pastor and author John Piper loves to say that “God is most glorified in us when we are satisfied in him.” If you think about this quote it makes perfect sense. Think back to when Israel was wandering for 40 years in the desert because they grumbled against God. All God wanted them to do was to be satisfied in Him. God is glorified when a sinner repents of his or her sins and places their faith in Christ and Christ alone for salvation. The Bible says that the angels rejoice every time someone is saved which brings glory to God. Conversely, He is also glorified when a sinner is punished and sent to hell because it upholds His holiness and justice. In other words, God is glorified because His nature is upheld. Jesus in his conversation with Nicodemus in John chapter 3 makes it clear that we must put out trust in Jesus or God’s wrath still remains on us (v. 36). It is important to remember that God did not have to send Jesus to die on the cross, it was His own choosing. Therefore, it makes sense that not everyone is going to heaven.

All of us need to repent and accept Christ as our Savior and Lord.
All of us need to repent and accept Christ as our Savior and Lord. | Source

God’s Offer of Salvation

“For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” John 3:17-18

God’s offer of salvation is another great example of how God is glorified when people are sent to hell. His offer is extended to everyone on the planet; however, He is a gentleman and does not force anyone to go to heaven that does not want to be there. John 3:16-21 explains that concept in more detail. Elsewhere in the New Testament, Jesus talks about that the way to God is narrow and the path to destruction (hell) is broad and many will take the broad road. Jesus said that He was the only way to God in John 14:6. Right there you have Jesus saying that all other roads are false. If you try to come to God through any other way, you will not make it. All of us have to decide what we want to do with Jesus, accept him or reject him. Those are our only options. Either choice that we make will glorify God because it will uphold his nature.

My question for you the reader is, are you going to accept or reject Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? Everything else I could ask you is meaningless in comparison to that question. I urge you to accept Christ before it is too late. Life is short, death is certain, know where you are going before you die because once you die it is too late.

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© 2013 Eric Cramer

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      Moral Man 

      4 months ago

      Thank you for posting my comment. I realize what I write is controversial. I suffer from overthinking about the subject of evil, God, the Devil, the afterlife, and hell. I maybe wrong in what I say. I admit theres a possibility, however slight and however miniscule, that God isnt the deficient, flawed being I think He is.

      I argue that God is deficient or dysfunctional in some way. Either Im right, or Im wrong. If Im wrong and there is no deficiency within God then the best way to explain this would be to use analogies. One analogy would be to say that us humans see things limited and incomplete, or we dont know everything and dont understand everything. Us humans dont have all the pieces of the puzzle, but God does. Us humans havent read the entire novel, but God does, and us humans havent seen the entire movie, but God has seen it and knows the outcome. We dont have the entire picture, we only see a small percent of it, whereas God sees the whole picture. If us humans knew and if we understood the reasons why God allows evil in all its forms then it would make sense and there would be no contradiction with His goodness, power, intelligence, or wisdom. Obviously a deity is going to be vastly more intelligent and vastly more knowledgeable than me. Just because I cant understand God doesnt give me the right to say He is deficient. Maybe the truth is that He only appears deficient from my limited human perspective, but from a divine perspective, He is not deficient.

      It boils down to whether one has faith or not. I struggle with my faith every day for the last 26 years since the 1990s. I admire those Christians who have strong faith.

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      Moral Man 

      5 months ago

      The concept of hell as a place where billions of people will be tortured sadistically forever is disgusting beyond imagining. Yes people are sinful and evil but there are more merciful, humane, intelligent, constructive, rational, and sane ways of punishing human sin than this. Plus no one has total 100 percent free will to do either good or evil, and I know I certainly dont. Nature and nurture enters the equation and also determines human behavior whether bad or good, and you cannot escape Nature and you cannot escape your Nurture. Plus, its very unfair for all of us to be born with an inherently evil, sinful nature passed down by the sin of Adam and Eve. So we all have to be born sinners right from the getgo, right from birth, and many of us have to suffer, and all of us have to die, and at least 90 percent of us have to end up in hell all because two ancient humans ate a forbidden fruit eons ago? Does this make sense?

      It makes even less sense when Fundamentalists insist that the sin of Adam and Eve not only caused Human evil and sin and the suffering and death that goes with it, but also corrupted Nature and caused Natural evil such as cancer, stroke, aneurysm, heart disease, tooth decay, ebola, birth defects, miscarriages, starvation, dehydration, droughts, floods, centipedes, jellyfish, recluse spiders, stonefish, mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, lice, screw worm flies, hurricanes, tsunamis. Note in God's initial warning to Adam and Eve, He doesnt bother telling them anything about Human sin, He doesnt tell them anything about diseases, violence and killing in Nature, violemce and killing in human beings, and He doesnt bother telling them anything about such such horrors as centipedes, scorpions, mosquitoes, and jellyfish, and no mention of a hell in the next life. They were inadequately warned, and the punishment was disproportionately severe. God's initial warning was directed only to Adam and Eve alone. He doesnt bother telling them that the ENTIRE creation was in danger of being corrupted and ruined if they ate the forbidden fruit. Not a word and not a hint that the entire creation was going to be punished in God's initial warning. That makes the punishment all the more cruel and unfair. Did Adam and Eve know before they disobeyed that they would be responsible for all the future evils and horrors that would result in the world? No, they didnt know. God didnt bother to tell them.

      The Bible is vague, ambiguous, unclear, and full of contradictions, and has caused centuries of mass disagreement, mass division, and mass confusion. If we choose the wrong church then its hell. How are we supposed to know which is the true church when each church claims they are the only true church and everybody else is wrong? So choosing the true church and interpreting the Bible becomes an eenie meenie minie mo guessing game, and if we guess wrong then its hell. Thats demented. Why cant God make Himself clear for all to understand? Why wont He answer our questions as we sleep? Why allow us to endlessly specualte, agonize, and argue, especially when our immortal souls are at stake? Why allow us to live in endless suspense, ignorance, division, confusion, aggravation, anxiety, apprehension, uncertainty, and fear? This is not love. This is not mercifulness.

      The horrors of hell are fire, worms, a sewer like stench, suffocation or inability to breathe, giant spiders and giant snakes, being manhandled, mutilated, and sliced by demons, and being buried alive inside a claustrophobic, coffin like, furnace like environment. See David J. Stewart's disgusting site: Buried Alive in Hell, where he claims that victims in hell will suffer claustrophobia forever as they burn in fire at the same time. Imagine being buried alive forever inside a closed coffin and burning in fire at the same time. Claustrophobia forever, suffocation forever, and incineration forever. This is overcharged, supercharged monstrous, diabolical, inhuman, inhumane, fiendish cruelty and sadism on steroids. This is infinitely worse than any horror movie. What kind of monster inflicts such tortures? And according to Fundamentalist and Calvinist Christians, at least 90 to 95 percent of all humans who have ever lived and died are doomed to such a horrifying fate. Im guilty of the sins of heresy, apostasy, and blasphemy, so Im headed to hell according to Funamentalists and Calvinists. All other religions, agnostics, atheists are all doomed to hell. So if there are 7 billion people on earth today, at least 6 billion to 6.5 billion of them are doomed to end up in this disgusting place. That would make Jesus Christ's sacrifice largely a failure because if He came to save our souls then He largely failed for 90 to 95 percent of the population. And if this is true then Satan is winning in this campaign of souls by a landlside. This is giving the win to the Devil. Why dont we just admit it. Satan and demons are winning this war, and God and Jesus are losing. Come on now admit it Christians. The Devil is winning.

      By the way, heres a Bible verse not often talked about at sermons, and for understandable reasons. "I make peace, and create evil." Isahaia chapter 45, verse 7, King James Bible. Other translations use the words disaster, calamity, misery, woe. It means to cause harm or to cause suffering. How does an all good God cause harm or cause suffering? That doesnt make sense to me. It sounds like a deity with a Jekyll and Hyde personality like the human beings He created and like the Nature He created. It sounds like a hypocrite and not someone I want to base my morality on. A being with both good and evil within Him is what we are worshipping, and the majority of us dont realize it because the theologians and preachers have convinced people that this is an all good deity. Im sorry, but I dont see it that way. Maybe the Gnostics are right or they are closer to the truth and there are at least 2 Gods, and the God who created evil things such as cancer and centipedes is the Demiurge, an insane, immoral, amoral, contradictory, incompetent, flawed being who made a flawed Natural world and who made flawed humans, while theres another God, a good God, who is unknown and unable to intervene because of matter and because He is not powerful enough. Gnostic religion is Dualistic and teaches a good God who is weak and powerless, while Fundamentalism and Calvinism are in the category of Monism and who teach in a powerful God who is sovereign over all things. Well if He is so powerful then He isnt so good and isnt so loving, and isnt rational, and isnt sane, and isnt so intelligent.

      Author Gregory Boyd claims that all evil, whether Moral evil or Human evil, and all Natural evil comes from the Devil, Satan, and demons. All Natural evil such as cancer, tooth decay, ebola, centipedes, jellyfish, mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, lice, hurricanes, tsunamis etc are all from the Devil and his minions and not from God, claims author Gregory Boyd. No one really knows the mystery of evil.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Yes, wrongly translated by man to keep man in line. What part didn't u understand?

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      Hell No wrote: "Aion is in the greek. So aions, aionios and aions of the aions. Aion is translated eternity. Aions is translated forever. Aionios or aionion is translated eternal and aions of the aions is translated forever and ever."

      Aionion is eternal.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      I didnt say they were supposed to be translated eternal. Ahh forget it.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      The verses below all contain the word aionion which you agree is translated eternal:

      Matt. 18:8, "And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal (aionion) fire."

      Matt. 25:41, "Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal (aionion) fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels."

      Matt. 25:46, "And these will go away into eternal (aionion) punishment, but the righteous into eternal (aionion) life."

      Mark 3:29, "but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal (aionion) sin."

      Mark 10:30, "but that he shall receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal (aionion) life."

      Luke 18:30, "who shall not receive many times as much at this time and in the age to come, eternal (aionion) life."

      2 Thess. 1:9, "And these will pay the penalty of eternal (aionion) destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power."

      Jude 7, "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal (aionion) fire."

      * All of these verses were taken from https://carm.org/look-word-aionion

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      SimplyI - I know that Sword and Hell No are going to believe what they believe no matter what I or anyone says. I am taking a stand to defend primary Biblical doctrine so that others may be spared of their heresies.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Aion is in the greek. So aions, aionios and aions of the aions. Aion is translated eternity. Aions is translated forever. Aionios or aionion is translated eternal and aions of the aions is translated forever and ever. Talk about redundant. What da hell does forever plus forever imply. They couldn't protect their stupid hell doctrine by saying eons of the eons. That would imply that it does in fact end as it does. Not hell because that is also a stupid mistranslation of words. But judgment. It does end. But yes, aion is scriptural. Look it up with e sword.

      And Simply1, you say i have no respect for people? Who says billions will be tortured in a place called hell forever? Not me. It's the crass and evil hell doctrine that i have no respect for. Hellers need that doctrine to be true. It aint though.

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      SimplyI 

      5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      Do you have a blog rule about trolls such as Sword of the M or Hell No?

      Shake the dust off your feet. They do not want to know the truth. All they want to do is to waste your time. They are the Jesuitical type. No hope of opening eyes there... Their tone and lack of respect for anyone prove who they are and what their intent is.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      aion is not the word used in the Greek. It is aionion. You are interpreting the wrong word. If everyone is saved, what difference does it make if I am on his left????? You are contradicting yourself. The context of Matthew 25 is the 2nd Coming of Christ. It is prophetic, not some abstract spiritual meaning.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Those are very faulty translations. Perhaps indeterminant is acceptable because its different for all. I have no interest in what a modern dictionary says about the word aion. Reading all of it's uses in "context" proves that it could not mean forever and it doesn't. These verses you quote are spiritual and it takes a spiritual mind to understand them. This you do not have. But your hell teaching is disgusting and spiritually speaking, you will be one on His left side.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      No, that is not what the Bible teaches. Believers will face the judgment seat of Christ, but will not be punished. They will be rewarded for their deeds and if they do not have any deeds they will still enter heaven as though escaping the fire (hell). Unbelievers will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11-15.

      "If anyone's name was not found in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. This is the final judgment.

      Matthew 25:46 also describes this with a distinction between believers and non-believers

      "They they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

      Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

      These two verses are in the context of the 2nd coming of Christ. Matthew calls them cursed that are going into the "eternal" fire. The Greek word is "aiōnion", which means indeterminate as to duration, eternal, everlasting. So the Bible translators are not wrong, their translation is correct.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      There are consequences. Judgement will not be a picnic for anybody. And it wont be a picnic for hellers either. The lake of fire (not some stupid hell garbage) will cleanse all. Including hellers. Jesus didn't die to save anybody from some stupid eternal torture. He died to save us from the condition we are all in.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      Scripture taken out of context. If everyone goes to heaven, why did the disciples die for their faith? What have millions of believers chosen to be killed for their faith when they could have denied Christ with no consequence?

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      In my hub "proof that Christ is the savior of the world" i have a ton of scriptures proving who the heretics are. I have several hubs covering every verse used against this truth. If you need i can paste them all right here for you. Hell is good for cinema but has no scriptural backing. I know that you need it to exist but it does not. Ur entire ministry goes up in shambles without it.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      You need to learn to read the entire section and not pull out verses that fit what YOU want them to say. Romans 11:25-32 is talking about Israel in the last days. See verses 25.

      "25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in."

      When you read a fiction book, do you just pick a random sentence out of a paragraph? Then why do you do it with the Bible????

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      Now my translation is no good. Which translation do you suggest? My translation does not have universal salvation because that is an unbiblical heresy.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Rom 11:31-32

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Its yet thus as through fire. The tranation you have does no ha to the truth of universal salvation. The escaping thing is a weak attempt to suggest that the saved never enter into judgent or flames. Unscriptural.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      The whole letter of 1 Corinthians is to the church at Corinth. Paul writes in verse 2:

      "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ--Their Lord and ours:"

      Those sanctified in Christ, not everyone. Verse 18 makes this clear:

      "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

      Again, the Bible draws a distinction between those who are being saved and those who are not. Now let us move on to chapter 3. This whole chapter talks about divisions in the church. In verse 1, Paul calls them "Infants in Christ." Verses 3 and 4 talk about quarreling and jealousy in the church at Corinth. Verses 5 through the end of the chapter talk about labor for God and about rewards from God. The verse that you wanted the context for is written to believers.

      "If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping the flames." 1 Cor 3:15

      This verse tells us that the works of believers will undergo testing and if they are all burned up, the believer will suffer loss, but still be saved though escaping through flames.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Ok, well then read for me 1 cor. 3:15 in context.

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      You need to learn to read the Bible in context and just because the word "all" is in the Bible does not mean that it refers to all people. For instance, if I say that I will buy everyone ice cream, am I really saying that I will buy the entire planet ice cream? No, it depends on the context of who I am talking too. It is the same with Scripture. John 3:16 is a conditional promise for only those who believe. See verses 18 and 36 which further back this up.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Its conditioned on being saved. Which all will be. Do i have to paste every i stance that the scriptures use all?

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      Eric Cramer 

      5 years ago from Chicagoland

      Obviously the Jesus isn't saying to cut off your hands and feet, what He is saying is that it would be better to go through life maimed then to spend eternity in hell.

      Read John 3:16. Salvation is conditional, not universal. "Whoever believes. . ." Notice it does not say everyone. Verse 18 says that "whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's One and Only Son." John 3:36 says, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath (judgment, ie hell) remains on him." Salvation is conditional in believing in Jesus.

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      Hell N0 

      5 years ago

      Wow i must commend u on ur accomplishments. To type without hands or eyes must b very difficult. For if u take that verse literally u have surely taken the carving knife to ur eyes, hands and feet. Wow, imagine how much better off u would be with a spiritual mind to understand spiritual things. Sorry, but this u have not attained yet. What a sick doctrine hellers teach.

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      SimplyI 

      6 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      SwordofManticoreE... "Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him."

      The Lord is glorified when people are saved and The Lord is equally glorified when people chose everlasting hell. To the saved HE gives mercy, to the lost HE gives justice. Everything, always works for His glory and nothing ever surprises him. Amen. That's exactly why he us God.

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      victor 

      6 years ago from India

      God is absolutely perfect; hence, He is flawless in all His doings.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      I just want to add that I wrote this Hub because I am passionate about people coming to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior more than anything else. The Bible offers a clear and loud warning that there are only two places for us to go after we die: Heaven and Hell. It is also clear that Jesus is the only way to get into Heaven. Jesus is clear in Matthew 25 that each of us is either a sheep or a goat.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      More Paul:

      "ALL SCRIPTURE is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16

      Also, remember that Luke not only wrote his gospel account, he also was the writer of Acts.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      I can do Paul:

      “He [God] will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power.” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9

      Everlasting destruction, hmmm, sure sounds like hell. The word Paul uses here is for eternal separation.

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      SwordofManticorE 

      6 years ago from Burlington

      Oh poor you. You read scripture the way you are. With a heart filled with vengeance. If there is one thing worst than a murderer, it is a hell wishing evangelical like you. You are the lowest of God's children. My suggestion for a fool like you is to read Acts and the apostle Paul's letters more often.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      I do not cut anything out, I read the Bible in context. Funny that you would rather attack me personally, then discuss what the Bible actually says in the passages that I referenced above.

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      SwordofManticorE 

      6 years ago from Burlington

      I am sure you will find a way to do it to any version as you have shown you are good at doing it.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      Does the new one come with tape and scissors so I can cut out the passage I like and paste them wherever???????

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      SwordofManticorE 

      6 years ago from Burlington

      Get a new accurate bible that is better translated than the one you have literalist.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      That does not even make sense. You cannot twist Matthew 5:29-30 into that interpretation. The context of the verse is the Sermon on the Mount and more specifically sexual sin. The whole point of what Jesus is saying here is that we must deal radically with sin. Why? Because sin is offensive to a holy God. The warning is clear, deal with your sin or face an eternity in hell. The book of Matthew was written to prove to Jewish people that Jesus was the Messiah. Besides in Matthew 25, Jesus once again warns about hell in verse41:

      "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire (hell) prepared for the devil and his angels.'"

      The context of this verse is that on the Day of the Lord, when the Son of Man comes in his glory (future) and all the angles with him. He will sit on his throne and all of the nations (all) will be gathered before him and separated into two groups: the sheep and the goats. The sheep are those who know Christ as their Savior and the goats are those who do not. Verse 46 sums it up perfectly:

      "Then they (the goats) will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

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      SwordofManticorE 

      6 years ago from Burlington

      So how many of your eyes and limbs have you cut off hypocrite?

      Now understand how God meant it. The book of Malachi was the last book written before the gospel of Mathew was. Read it and know that it was about the day of judgement on Judea.

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      Look up Gehenna in the dictionary. The World English Dictionary offers 3 definitions:

      1. Old Testament - The valley of below Jerusalem, where children were sacrificed and where idolatry was practiced (II Kings 23:10, Jeremiah 19:6) and where later offal and refuse were slowly burned.

      2. New Testament - Judaism, a place where the wicked are punished after death.

      3. A place or state of pain and torment

      Step back and look at what Matthew 5:29-30 says. Jesus says that it is better to go through life missing an eye or a hand then to end up in hell (gehenna). The context of the sentence has to mean a place of punishment and torment after death. It does not make sense with any other definition.

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      SwordofManticorE 

      6 years ago from Burlington

      The context is plain and simple if you are a carnal minded literalist. The word hell in this verse is an inaccurate translation. The word in Greek is Gehenna. This verse you quoted suffers the most speculative interpretations, and many religious leaders base their false doctrines upon it. And you are just as guilty endorsing these doctrines of demons. Has the doctrine of eternal torture kept men from backsliding? Has it turned the world to God? Has it made the streets in your city safe to walk at night? Has it kept the Christians from growing spiritually cold, or from committing disgraceful sins? Has it prevented Churches from becoming worldly, or sinking into apostasy? It has not!

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      SoM, No the God I worship is that of the Bible, the entire Bible not just what portions I like. Jesus warned about hell many times.

      "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." Matthew 5:29-30

      Jesus is not talking about Judea here. The context is plain and simple.

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      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      SoM speaks well here, for him. Glad I am not him.

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      SwordofManticorE 

      6 years ago from Burlington

      Your image of the god you worship is a satanic, hypocrite of a monster tyrant and you lack the real knowledge of who the living God truly is. Christ never warned about hell, He warned the Judeans that God's wrath on Judea will be soon. Yet your cup of intellect is so filled with lies, you have no more room for truth. This is the image of the god you worship (Dan 3:1-6).

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      Eric Cramer 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland

      Everything that God does glorifies Himself. God is glorified when people are sent to hell because his nature is upheld. He is a God of love, mercy and grace, however, He is also is just and infinitely holy. Jesus spent more time warning people of the dangers of hell than he did of the glories of heaven.

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      SwordofManticorE 

      7 years ago from Burlington

      Here is a better question for all you hell believers and hell wishers. How does eternally tormenting, torturing and burning someone who knew not God glorify His purpose, pleasure, mercy, forgiveness and most of all, His love?

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      Eric Cramer 

      7 years ago from Chicagoland

      Thanks BlossomSB! I totally agree with what you said about Bunyan.

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      Bronwen Scott-Branagan 

      7 years ago from Victoria, Australia

      I truly believe there is a hell as well as heaven and I know which one I prefer to spend eternity in. Bunyan puts the journey there well, too, doesn't he?

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      Eric Cramer 

      7 years ago from Chicagoland

      Thanks Eric!

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      Eric Dierker 

      7 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I like it. It makes perfect sense that those who do not accept God, simply cannot accept eternal life. Eternal death is their option. I suppose I can relate. Maybe some folk just figure they are tired and want eternal death.

      And for others who just don't find God how could their soul continue to live without Him.

      Very good stuff.

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