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Is the Law Done Away With?

Updated on July 23, 2017
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Given the historical and spiritual significance of the Bible, Kevin has devoted himself to studies through prayer and discernment.


I do not believe in works based salvation. My link at the end clarifies on that. And as you can see there have been significant changes to this article. Comments below may not fit these changes, so please do not accuse anyone who commented of not reading it unless it is a recent comment.

Are we still bound by the laws of the Old Testament? Are we still to follow the laws, statutes, and commandments? The Christian church doesn't seem to think so. Are they right?

Matthew 5 17 says he fulfilled the law. Fulfill it, or make it known?

"Playroo", a Greek word being incorrectly translated as fulfilled in Matthew 5 17. The word means to fill make full/complete. That is what Mashiach did. He made the law known fully against the Pharisees who enforced their own traditions.

Let me ask you a question. Without reading any verse or looking up the definition, what is the definition of sin according to the Bible? You'll find the answer in the next line, but keep your answer in mind.

1 John 34
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

1 Corinthians 6 9-11
Who will not get into the kingdom of YHWH? The unrighteous. Those who willingly commit sin and don't have any remorse. Christians acknowledge this verse, yet they don't understand it. Where do we find these standards at? Where in the scripture do we find these laws that says these things are wrong? The Old Testament. The Torah lists these laws.
So when we sin, we transgress the law. But how can we sin if there is no law? You're going to find out that you have been lied to if you think the law is done away with.

How Do We Show the Most High That We Love Him?

John 14:15 says that if you love the Messiah, keep the commandments.

You have to treat it like a relationship. Think about someone you care about. Your spouse, your parent, sibling, child, friend, etc. They say that they care about you. But how would you feel if they said they care about you, but they also treat you badly? That isn't showing care. When you care for someone you show it. A husband will provide for his wife and family, for example. If a husband does not do that, how does he love them? This is why I like the references to the Bride of Mashiach in the scripture. Because that is what it is like, a marriage. And both the husband and wife have a duty to fulfill. Otherwise there is no point in it.

John 15:10

  • "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

John 14:15

  • If ye love me, keep my commandments.

So he said even as he kept his commandments. And we can all agree that he kept the law fully. And he wants us to obey his commandments.

1 John 2:6

  • “He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

We know he kept the law perfectly. Are we not to try to follow his example and follow it to the best of our ability?

So if you want to show the Most High that you love him you must keep his commandments. Has that ever changed? Malachi 3 6 says that the Most High never changes, so this is still in effect. Need proof? Let's go into the scriptures.

Moses with the Ten Commandments by Rembrandt, 1659
Moses with the Ten Commandments by Rembrandt, 1659

The Pharisee Doctrine

Matthew 23:4

  • "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers."

A lot of people think this is referring to the laws of Torah. But if this were so, how come this isn't addressed earlier on? By now these laws haves been in effect for over a hundred years. And when we look back into the Torah there is no mention of the Pharisees adding these laws themselves. So why do we see so many times where Yahushua scorns the Pharisees? What were they doing wrong? Was it because they taught the law? Or was it for another reason?

Is the law a burden? Many people will quote Matthew 23 4 and say it is. "See? Jesus is saying that the law is a burden because the Pharisees taught the law." They tend to erroneously associate the word "Pharisee" with the law in most cases in regards to arguments against those who choose to keep the Torah. Before we address this verse in context, we need to go to the Old Testament to see if the Torah is indeed a burden.
⦁ "If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of YHWH thy Elohim, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the YHWH thy Elohim with all thine heart, and with all thy soul."
⦁ "For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off."
⦁ "It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?"
⦁ "Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?"
⦁ "But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."
⦁ "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil."
⦁ "In that I command thee this day to love YHWH thy Elohim, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and YHWH thy Elohim shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it."

Verse 11 says this is not hidden. But what is the proper understanding of this verse? We read in the other translations that it means these commandments are not too hard. "This command I am giving you today is not too difficult for you to understand, and it is not beyond your reach." It doesn't mean it is not hidden as in hiding somewhere. That is obvious as it is being presented to them at that moment. It further explains it when we read the next few verses regarding it to be far. If this was about actual hiding, then how do they know it is in heaven or beyond the sea? These verses are saying the commandments are not too hard. So when someone says they are a burden they are going against the scripture. These words are also from the Creator himself, so by default this would be calling him a liar. If someone says these commandments are a burden, show them these verses where it says otherwise. We see this being referenced in Romans 10 by Paul.

ROMANS 10 5-8
⦁ "For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them."
⦁ "But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring the Messiah down from above:)"
⦁ "Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up the Messiah again from the dead.)"
⦁ "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;"

Why are these things regarding the Messiah put in parentheses? John 1 1. The Messiah is the Word. Deuteronomy 30 was talking about the Word, the Law. But Paul is talking about the Messiah. And he also quotes the exact words in Deuteronomy 30. Are they contradictory? Or is he preaching the same message? It is wise to go with the latter. As verse 8 will show, the faith that the Apostles preached lined up with the same righteousness of faith referred to in the Old Testament.

So if these laws were not a burden, what was it the Pharisees were doing? Keep this in mind; many times throughout scripture the Pharisees were called hypocrites. They were ready to point at someone's iniquities, but never their own as well.

MATTHEW 18 18-20

  • "And Yahushua came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."
  • "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:"
  • "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amein."
  • All things he has commanded means all of the things he commanded. Everything commanded by him is to be taught by all the people you want to convert.

MATTHEW 23 1-3

  • "Then spake Yahushua to the multitude, and to his disciples,"
  • "Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:"
  • "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."

The seat of Moses is a place of position where the teachers preach the law of Moses. The Messiah just told them to obey what the Pharisees say. What do the Pharisees preach? The law. But it also says do not do their works, for they say and do not. The Pharisees preach the right thing, but they do not follow the right thing. They are being hypocrites. Example; you're crossing the street, and everything seems clear. But a man stops you. He says, "Don't go yet. There is a car coming." All of a sudden you see a car coming and you do as he says and do not cross yet. But what does he do? Cross the street as the car is coming. That is not only idiotic, but also hypocritical. But you were wise enough to do as he says, but not as he did. He warned you of the car, and you took that warning. But he did not. He went ahead and did it, and what happened? He got hit. He did not follow his own words. Even if a hypocrite is preaching the truth, you are still to listen. While they are being hypocritical and that is a sin, that is no excuse for you to turn away when real truth is being brought out. That would not count as obeying them. That is obeying the scriptures.
Read the rest of Matthew 23 to see proof that the Messiah is not condemning them for preaching the law. They themselves put on these heavy burdens, not the Torah. And when you read this chapter, you'll find a lot of things that they're being condemned for doing by the Messiah, but not once are they condemned for following and teaching the law. Being prideful, obsessing over wealth (gold and gifts to the Temple), and ignoring the bigger aspects of the law known as justice, mercy, and faith. These are the things they're being condemned for, and more once you read more into the New Testament and see why the Messiah was so condemning of the Pharisees.

Here is some more proof. John 7 14-19.

  • "Now about the midst of the feast Yahushua went up into the temple, and taught."
  • "And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?"
  • "Yahushua answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me."
  • "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of Elohim, or whether I speak of myself."
  • "He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him."
  • "Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?"

See? He scorned the Pharisees because they did not keep the law, not because they kept it.

Another thing they did was add to the commandments (Deuteronomy 4 2 prohibits this). They taught their own traditions over scriptural law. m Turn to Matthew 15. People like to say this verse is saying that whatever food you eat, it does not defile you. But this verse is not even talking about food. Turn to verse 1 and we will read to verse 20. Notice how the Pharisees are asking the Messiah why the disciples are transgressing the tradition of the ELDERS by not washing their hands before they eat. This was not a law in the Torah. How does he answer? He asks them why they transgress the commandment of Yah by enforcing their own tradition and not enforcing a scriptural law such as honoring your mother and father? That's part of the Torah. The first ten commandments (there are actually over 600, those first ten are not the only ones, read it in the first five books).
So what does make a man unclean? Verses 16 to 19 tells us. Evil thoughts of murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Sin makes you unclean. But what does verse 20 say? Eating with dirty hands does NOT defile a man. This is not about food at all. This is saying that having some dirt on your hands and you eat something does not make you unclean. But knowingly indulging in foods that are not good for you? That is another story.

He wasn't against the Pharisees for preaching the law of eating clean meats. He was against them because they ignored the weightier matters, and they were being hypocrites who enforced their own traditions but always liked to point their finger at others. These were the same guys that Isaiah was talking about in Isaiah 29 13, talking about their love for the Most High with their mouths but their heart is not with him. They are hypocrites. That is why the Messiah came. He came to preach the truth of the Torah to his lost people as they were being led astray by these prophets.

For more info on unclean food, see here: The Unclean Food Deception

New Commandment

Is John 13 34 really a new commandment? Is it really new to love one another as yourself?

John 13:34

  • "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

In this verse we see him preaching a message of loving ones neighbor.

Matthew 22:37-39

  • "Yahushua said unto him, Thou shalt love YHWH thy Elohim with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."
  • "This is the first and great commandment."
  • "And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Is this something new? No. He is quoting scripture. In fact this is a law from the Old Testament. Leviticus 19:18

  • "Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am Elohim."

So this is not new as in a brand new commandment never being taught before. It is new to them because obviously these Pharisees were not teaching this. They were not teaching the weightier matters of Torah.

John‬ ‭5:46-47‬
"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me."
"But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?”
1 John 2:7
"Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning."

Here are some more times where the Messiah quoted the Law.

  • But he answered, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of Elohim.’” (Matthew 4:4, cf. Luke 4:4)
  • And he humbled you and let you hunger and fed you with manna, which you did not know, nor did your fathers know, that he might make you know that man does not live by bread alone, but man lives by every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH. (Deuteronomy 8:3)

  • "Yahushua said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put YHWH your Elohim to the test.’” (Matthew 4:7; cf. Luke 4:12)
  • “You shall not put YHWH your Elohim to the test, as you tested him at Massah.” (Deuteronomy 6:16)

  • Then Yahushua said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim and him only shall you serve.’” (Matthew 4:10, cf. Luke 4:8)
  • It is YHWH thy Elohim you shall fear. Him you shall serve and by his name you shall swear. (Deuteronomy 6:13)

New Covenant (Jeremiah 31 31-33).

"not be like the covenant I made with their fathers"

How is this new covenant with Israel different?

"I will put the law within them, and I will write it in their hearts."

Let's read on. What does this mean?

Jeremiah 31:34
[34]And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know Elohim: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith Elohim: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Notice he says, law. He doesn't mention a few specific commandments, but just his law. And what is his law? The Torah. The way it is different is because the laws would be something they would know and keep indefinitely, not that anything has changed. The covenant beforehand had the laws written on stone and parchment. Here, these laws for his children will be remembered by them in the day of their redemption.

Think of it like this. You know how sometimes you might leave a reminder or an alarm on your phone to do something? Well the laws written down are the same way. But instead of needing an alarm or reminder, you just remember on the spot without needing to be reminded.

Here is some more proof. What word is sued for law in Jeremiah 31 31?

Strong's Concordance 8451. torah: direction, instruction, law

Original Word: תּוֹרָה

Part of Speech: Noun Feminine

Transliteration: torah

Phonetic Spelling: (to-raw')

Short Definition: law

Torah. The same word used to refer to the law of the Old Testament.

Did the Disciples Keep the Commandments?

Let's find out. Here are a few instances of them keeping the commandments.

Sabbath (Acts 17 1-3, Luke 4 16, and Luke 23:56) . In one of those verses we even see the Messiah keeping the Sabbath. Notice what that last verse says.

[56]And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the COMMANDMENT.

That last part was after Mashiach died. So why are they keeping this commandment? I want you to do some heavy research in the New Testament. You will see many times that they kept the Sabbath.

Dietary (Acts 10 14) Notice how Peter did not eat any of the unclean animals. That is because this vision was symbolic, not meaning he could eat unclean food, which you can read more about in my article "The Unclean Food Deception". Now Peter was there when Mashiach apparently said unclean food does not defile you. So why is he not eating this food in the vision? Go to that article and see why.

So we see that they still kept the commandments.

Matthew 5: 19-20

  • "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:"
  • "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."

So by breaking the commandments of the law, you sin. And if you love him, keep his commandments. And where do we find his commandments? The LAW. He only fulfilled certain laws related to sacrifice and the penalty of death. That is what he fulfilled with his death. All of the other commandments are still to be followed. Dietary, ceremonial, and especially moral. Yes, that includes the Sabbath, dietary laws, etc. Mashiach only died to fulfill the law of death and sacrifice. If he fulfilled and did away with the whole law then we are allowed to sin all we want. Is that true?

Romans 3 31

"Do we then make void the law through faith? YHWH forbid: yea, we establish the law."

Romans 6:1-2

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"

"YHWH forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"

Hebrews 10:26

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Since we know 1 John 3 4 tells us sin is the transgression of the law, we can conclude that this is indeed referring to the law of the Old Testament as no new basis for law is given in the New Testament. Now let's cover the subject of Paul. Did he say you did not have to keep the commandments?

Acts 15

Now we will debunk the idea that this chapter nullifies the dietary part of the law. Here is what is commanded of them in this chapter.

  1. Abstain from food sacrificed to idols
  2. Abstain from sexual immorality.
  3. Abstain from strangled animals (as all their blood is still in them) and from blood.

Since there is no mention of eating unclean meats here, one might assume this had nothing to do with Torah. But take notice. 1 is based on the first and second commandments, and 2 is based on the 7th commandment. These things are based in the 10 commandments, part of the Torah. Where do we find that third order? Genesis 9 2-4, which says we must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. This is also a law in the Torah. Leviticus 7 26.

Now we will get the proper context. There were Jews that were teaching these people that they would have no salvation unless they were first circumcised. When they brought this doctrine to the apostles and elders in Jerusalem, Peter called it a "a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear". Some Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."
Peter states that all are "saved" through the grace of Yahushua Ha Mashiach. As evidenced by this statement, the question they were discussing is whether or not these people were saved through the grace of Yahushua, or by circumcision and keeping commandments. This was also the original question in Acts 15:1.

Peter said, "we believe that through the grace of the lord Yahushua the Messiah we shall be saved, even as they." His point was that everyone is saved by grace, not by keeping the law or by circumcision. Even Jews who had been circumcised and kept the law didn't have salvation until they believed in Yahushua. He also said that to make circumcision or Torah/law observance the requirement for salvation would be to "test Elohim." But how would it "test Elohim?"

So Peter, after detailing the proof that the Almighty had accepted these men in their uncircumcised state, affirmed that they are saved through the grace of Yahushua rather than circumcision or any other act of Torah/law observance. The ultimate decision in Acts 15 by James was not to require circumcision for salvation. Circumcision of the flesh is nothing compared to that of the heart. Deuteronomy 10 16 and Romans 2 25-29.

Deuteronomy 10 16

  • "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked."

Romans 2 25-29

  • "For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision."
  • "Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?"
  • "And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?"
  • "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:"

"But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of YHWH."

Circumcision is only an outward sign of being set apart to the Almighty. However, if the heart is sinful, then physical circumcision is of no avail. A circumcised body and a sinful heart are at odds with each other. Rather than focus on external rites, Paul focuses on the condition of the heart.

Galatians 6:12-13

  • "As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Messiah."
  • "For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh."

So these "false brethren" were actually Torah breakers themselves but they were most interested in circumcising these men so that they could boast about it. The focus on the praise of men was amongst the notable characteristics of some Pharisees of that time:

Please click here for a more in depth study on how works and salvation come into play.

Paul's Epistles

Many Christians love to reference Paul's writings because they don't know the first thing about them. They take all of his words out of context and put their own interpretation, going against Isaiah 28 10 and 2 Peter 1 20. Let's go into the writings of Paul and see what he says.

2 Peter 3 15-16 shows us that writings that are misinterpreted would lead to destruction, which is exactly what a lot of people are doing. They promote lawlessness instead of the law. Modern day Pharisees, putting their own tradition instead of the Torah (Matthew 15 1-9). So now we are going to uncover the truth behind the teachings of Paul. Get your Bible and read the verses given and then read the text afterwards.

Romans 6 14

Romans 6 14 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."

So we are under grace and don't have to follow the law and sin all we want? No. Read 1-17.

Source: Romans 6 14 by Messianic Apologetics

  • "On the basis of passages such as Romans 6:14, many Christian theologians and Bible teachers, in claiming that Believers are not to be “under the Law,” have commonly interpreted it as meaning that obedience to the commandments of the Torah or Law of Moses is not necessary for Messiah followers. While it is very true that Believers are not hupo nomon or “under law,” does this phrase really mean being obedient to God’s Torah? Given the emphasis within Romans ch. 6 on Believers being dead to sin (Romans 6:1-2, 7-13), immersed into Yeshua to walk in newness of life (Romans 6:3-5), and being crucified with Him (Romans 6:6)—how could an honest reader of this section of Paul’s letter think that he would somehow allow for disobedience to God’s commandments? Paul actually makes the effort of describing redeemed persons like slaves of righteousness, who have the steadfast need to be obedient to the Lord (Romans 6:16-19)."
  • "What are we to make of Romans 6:14, “For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace” (RSV)? The Greek verb kurieuō means “to be lord or master of people or of a country” and “to have legal power to do” (LS).[1] Sin not being the master or lord of a Believer is directly connected to: “you are not under law.” It would be a mistake of anyone to somehow equate the sin-master and the Torah as somehow being the same; Romans 7:7 makes it clear, “Is the Law sin? May it never be!” The Torah is something given by God (Romans 7:22, 25; 8:7); the Torah is not the agent of sin. The sin-master is, however, quite capable of using the Torah for the purpose of causing disobedience in weak and fleshly people (Romans 7:6, 8), which in turn will merit God’s condemnation upon such sinners."
  • "Sin is never the master over a person who has been spiritually regenerated. Sin is not the master of a born again Believer, because Messiah followers have made that key declaration of “Yeshua is Lord!” (Romans 10:9) and have recognized His supremacy within their lives. By so doing, those who trust in Yeshua are able to receive permanent forgiveness for their sins."

Galatians 5 18

Once again Christians will say this means we can sin all we want. But if we look at our last example, it says otherwise. Read the verse above again, but from verse 17-21. Paul is telling us what the works of the flesh are. So if you commit one or more of these things, you are being led by an evil spirit, not the spirit of righteousness. And if you read back into the Old Testament, all of these things are outlawed there just as they are now.

If you are being lead by the spirit then you are keeping the law. Remember how man was not made for the Sabbath but the Sabbath for man? That's how it is. If you have an earnest desire for righteousness and have received the spirit of The Anointed One, you will keep the laws and commandments. Yes, that includes the Sabbath, dietary laws, etc. Mashiach only died to fulfill the law of death and sacrifice. If He fulfilled the whole law then we are allowed to sin all we want.

More info on this verse can be found in Part 2 in the link at the end of the article.

Colossians 2 16

Colossians 2 16 is a favorite amongst many as a last resort when shown the truth. But what does this verse really mean? Paul is talking to believers that are keeping the Sabbath day and the new moons. He is saying to not let anyone judge us for keeping those days. Read it from verse 8 to 17 to get a clearer understanding and see how this is actually condoning the celebration of these days as a mandate. The believers in the Colossian community were being judged for enjoying the festival, as well as eating and drinking in it. Colossians 2 21 says they were told to not handle, taste, or touch. Colossians 2 18 gives an example of asceticism where they participated in self-abasement. They wanted to rob true believers of celebration by claiming that to be holy, you have to deny yourself during the high holy days and Sabbaths.

Paul is referenced a lot when it comes to saying the law and the Sabbath is done away with. But did you know Paul kept the Sabbath? Acts 17 1-2. Did you know he also never said the commandments were done away with? See that here.

Paul was condemning the avoidance of anything enjoyable-which was intended to make its followers more spiritual. He says to the Colossians: "Therefore, if you died with Mashiach from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in this world, do you subject yourself to regulations- 'Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,' which all concern things which perish the using- according to the commandments and doctrines of men? These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh." (Colossians 2:20-23)."

They had a false humility (verse 23) and were destined to fail because they were based on the "commandments and doctrines of men". Paul encourages the Church to hold fast to its teachings and proper understanding; it is not a treatise on which foods to eat or on which days to worship the Almighty. We must be careful not to read preconceived notions into these or any other scriptures."

Not Under The Law, But Under Grace

You will hear many times where it is said we are not under the law. Now what does this mean? My friend Darionel at Devoted To Yah explains this.

  • "Paul says being under law is under the punishment of the law for breaking the law."
  • ."Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before YHWH."
  • "Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."
  • "Remind them that Yahushua commanded us to observe Torah."

Matthew 23"

  • "1 Then spake Yahushua to the multitude, and to his disciples,"
  • "2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:"
  • "3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."

Romans 10 4

End of the Law

The word "end" can be found in the Strong's Concordance as 5056: telos. "an end, a toll". Also meaning definite point or goal. The Messiah kept the law perfectly, and is our example. It is our duty to walk as he did (1 John 2 6).

James 2 10

James 2 10

Now we will address James.

  • "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

They leave out the rest of the chapter and mistakenly took it out of context. To them this is condemning those who obey Torah as they see us all as hypocrites. Read it in context. James 2:5-11

  • "Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not YHWH chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?"
  • "But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?"
  • "Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?"
  • "If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:"
  • "But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors."
  • "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
  • "For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law."

So what is this saying? It is speaking out against those who are in the faith, but are not following all righteousness. It is saying, "So you aren't an adulterer? Great. But you just murdered someone. You are still sinning even though you aren't committing that other sin", not saying that following the law is a bad thing.

The Law Is...

Perfect (Psalm 19 7)

The way of righteousness (Proverbs 12 28)

To be kept (Ephesians 2 15)

Still going to be followed in the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31 33)

The Lawless...

Do not have their prayers answered (John 9 31).

Are hated by the Most High (Psalm 5 5)

Will be punished (Revelation 20 15)

If this does not convince you, read Isaiah 66 15-17. Look at one of the types of people the Most High is targeting; people who eat abominable foods like swine. This is an end times prophecy, so the law is not done away with. The Christian church is misleading people with their preaching of lawlessness.


Now that we have concluded this, you may say, "Okay, but that was all about the 12 Tribes. I'm a Gentile. Why should I follow it?" I will answer this below.

Noah: If you saw my article The Unclean Food Deception, you see how Noah and his sons were able to differentiate between clean and unclean meats. He was expected to know for himself what is clean and unclean (Genesis 7 2). This implies that they believed in the same law as Moses did. There is no scripture that indicates that this animal was considered unclean for a different reason, given that both clearly state unclean animals such as swine are unfit to eat, and both were also not sacrificed (Isaiah 66 3 gives an example of swine offering being considered a bad thing). So the common argument that they were called unclean only due for sacrificial reasons is faulty.

Abraham: We see that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed for its sins. But where do we get the basis for sin? Where do we get our commandments for right and wrong? The Torah itself. It lists all types of immoralities; pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth. We must also consider the following passage. Genesis 26 4-5

  • "And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;"
  • "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

So Abraham kept the Almighty's charge, commandments, statutes, and laws. What is the Hebrew word used here for law?

Strong's Concordance 8451: torah. direction, instruction, law
Original Word: תּוֹרָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: torah
Phonetic Spelling: (to-raw')
Short Definition: law

The same word used to describe the laws in the Mosaic law. Exodus 12 49, Exodus 13 9, Exodus 16 4 and 28, Exodus 18 16 and 20, Exodus 24 12, and Leviticus 6 9 are just a few examples of the 219 occurrences of this word. Abraham had laws. Where would he have gotten this from? Obviously he would have learned them. Learning them implies that they existed before he did.

So what Adam, Noah, Abraham, and all followers of the Almighty followed was Torah, his divine law and standard for all of humanity. Let's get our final piece of evidence.

Exodus 12 48-49.

  • "And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to YHWH, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof."
  • "One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you."

Numbers 15:15-16

  • "One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before YHWH."
  • "One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you"

Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

2 Timothy 4:3 - For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Tithing, and What It Really Means

1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of YHWH: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

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      AF Mind 4 months ago

      Charlie, it was for them AND the stranger within the land. That was a foreigner. I also plan on redoing this article to show how the rest of humanity was also held up to this same set of laws. Plus, who can say who is a gentile and who isn't? For all you know you may be of the 12 Tribes in ur ancestry, so saying it was only for them and not you defeats itself since you may be one of them. And the converts to Judaism in Acts were never told to not obey the law. Yes, circumcision was a topic for them and they were told it was unnecessary, but that is because the Jews preached a physical sign salvation and not circumcision of the heart.

      Yes, and as I have shown that word fulfilled is playroo, meaning to bring to top, fully. That means it is brought to its fullness, not its end. Did you even read my article before commenting? In our last conversation you said the exact same thing. You just copied and pasted it.

      Read it in context. I literally addressed that in the end. Read under James 2 on the article. Don't just comment without reading. That verse about one who keeps the law and offends in one part was about a person, for example, saying they don't commit adultery but they're a murdered, thereby offending in one part of the law and breaking it all. Either read it here, or read it in James 2 1-11.

      Again, that verse says he did not come to destroy it. He 7s making a clear difference between destroying it and fulfilling it. He would not do that if it would lead to the exact same conclusion.

      Again. Context. I addressed those exact same verses in the link at the end. I suggest you read it first.

      Yes, CURSE of the law. He redeemed them from the curse of the law. Not the law itself, but the curse of it.

      Renewed contract. The covenant is renewed, but written in their hearts as Jeremiah 31 31-33 says.

      Yes, they had harsh penalty. That is what was taken away. But they also had grace, mercy, and forgiveness. Did Noah not find grace? Was David not forgiven?

      So it does not include any part of the old covenant? Yet you quote John 13 34 and 35 and John 15 12-17. Those are found in the old covenant. John 13 34 is found in Leviticus 19 18. That is not a new commandment. It is a RENEWED commandment. Isn't the old law what told us what idolatry was? What about rape? That is not in the 10 Commandments, but it was outlawed in the old law (Deuteronomy 22). Is that okay now? I'm not saying you think it is, but you said the new covenant includes nothing from the old.

      How can you even say that when all you did was just copy and paste the exact same stuff you used on my other article when I told you I addressed those exact same verses? I didn't even use much of an argument for the law in our last conversation, so since you just copied and pasted your argument I know you hardly read this. I suggest you read my article, as well as the expansion of it in the link at the end. Treat how you want to be treated, yes? Then let us both treat each other with respect and dignity by listening to one another. If you want me to listen to you, listen to me as well. Read what I say before commenting, or all comments from you shall be deleted.

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      charlie 4 months ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

      af- scripture is clear that the law was done away with, fulfilled, completed . It was TEMPORARY, FOR ISRAEL ONLY AND was fulfilled by Jesus on the cross making it no longer valid.

      Luke 16:16-17 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it. 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.

      it was fulfilled by the MAN JESUS as scripture spoke it would be IT DID NOT FAIL IT WAS FULFILLED, COMPLETED..

      NT:4137 pleroo (play-ro'-o); from NT:4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to FINISH (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:

      NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPURE, the guide for this final age states clearly that those who keep any part of the LAW obligate themselves to keep ALL of it and are to be judged by it and not the grace and mercy brought by Jesus, because they are by their actions saying He died in vain therefore do not believe He is Savior.

      Matt 5:17-18 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

      Gal 3:22-25 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

      Gal 3:12-14 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them."

      13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

      The Law has been fulfilled, it served its time and purpose and was replaced by a completely NEW CONTRACT between God and man and this new one included whosoeverwill, the Old was only with

      israel with harsh penalty for missing the mark but the new brings grace, mercy and forgiveness- the ultimate acts of love..

      The GOSPEL if the Kingdom of God does NOT include any part oF the Law it is a NEW CONTRACT (COVENANT).

      John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

      John 15:12-17 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another.

      no scripture contradicts another unless it is incorrectly translated/applied. the way you use them they do contradict and cannot be accepted as truth.

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      AF Mind 6 months ago

      Neither me or Antonio deny that, Norine. Me and you already had our chat. I deleted the videos and summarized them in a google doc at the end for you. When you read that and stop with the constant emotional CAPS LOCK arguments I will consider approving your comments if you will be willing to have a mature and cordial argument on scriptures. If not, all further comments from you will not be approved.

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      Norine Williams 6 months ago

      Antonio, you and ANYONE else who doesn't believe Christ DIED and sent HELP back as "Promised," DENY "Grace!"

      "I do not frustrate the "Grace" of GOD: for if "righteousness" come by THE LAW, then Christ is DEAD in VAIN" (Galatians 2:21)!

      Where does that leave ANYONE who believes otherwise?

      I'll tell you what Scripture says "So we see they COULD NOT ENTER IN because of UNBELIEF" (Hebrews 3:31)!

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      AF Mind 6 months ago

      I agree, Antonio. I do plan on making some more additions to it soon. Unfortunately those notes at the end are also a copy of an old post so copying them on to here would make my article seem cooyrighted. Thanks for your input. Check back within a week and it should be fixed up.

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      Antonio evans 6 months ago

      While i agree with every point you made, i feel that you could have went more into detail along with a few more verse breakdowns

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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      Romans 3:31

      [31]Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

      The law. Not just love thy neighbor, or just worship God. It says the law. The entire law, all of Torah including those two things. And where do we find those things? Torah. Look for yourself.

      I have already explained all of this to you, Norine. Stop responding with your own emotional interpretation and actually. All further comments from you shall be denied until you decide to consider scripture.

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      Norine Williams 7 months ago

      Yes "our learning!" The LAW "WAS" our SCHOOLMASTER!

      Galatians 3:23-25 "But before FAITH came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be REVEALED. Wherefore the LAW "WAS" our SCHOOLMASTER to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by FAITH. But after that FAITH is come, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER A SCHOOLMASTER."

      Does anyone care that we live under the New Covenant?

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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      If they did not matter now, they would not latter then. Malachi 3 6 he does not change.

      Romans 15:4

      [4]For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

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      Sanxuary 7 months ago

      I do not think the laws matter in the context they were practiced in the past. They remain important in the lessons they taught. Even something as mundane as the kosher laws and fasting are huge lessons. Nutrician is important and Mad cow disiese comes from the organs of animals. Who knows what else does but it was teaching us to stay clean. Fasting is important to teach us to have control over our bodies and to suffer a little when we are not suffing to make us stronger. God could have many other reasons but the more I look into this stuff it always has a real reason to not ignore the past. It is the lesson to learn how to practice that is missing in so many churches. To refuse evil in the face of our Earthly agendas to profit in Heaven and not on Earth. To trust God that he will reward us with the life we must to mature in spirit to test the World that will not follow him for Earthly rewards that have no value in a day.

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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      Yes, and when we truly become born again wemay follow the Torah. His laws do not change, so why would we all of a sudden not have to follow them? When you actually accept the truth of the Messiah then you will follow his ways. But if you are not following Torah and his commandments you have not truly accepted him. Catholics claim the same thing, but they don't have the Holy Spirit. Same as all of these other denominations. We are not under the law, meaning that once we truly become born agian the law would be found in our inward parts and we are not subject to the punishment of the law. I notice that you reference Paul a lot.

      2 Peter 3:14-16

      14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

      15 And account that the longsuffering of our Master is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

      16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

      Those people did not walk in the ways of the Most High. That is why he said not to follwo in their ways. And to the rest of what you say, the only way he is working in you is if you are following the commandments. If not, then he is not working through you no matter how much you claim he is. And I notice that you say the children of Yashar'al could not do it, but everyone else can. I have already debunked that whole replacement theology stuff. If he gave laws to a people that could not follow it at all, then he is not just. But he gave those laws, meaning they can be followed.

      That is a bad analogy as 1. We have already established that he never changes, so his law cannot change. 2. In that scenario the law changes. Here it does not. And yes he said he would remember their sins no more. But what does Jeremiah also say? The law would be put in their hearts. They repent, meaning they will be forgiven. If you are doing something wrong, repent of it and the Most High will forgive you. But how can there be forgiveness for transgressing the commandments if you continuously transgress them?

      The law does indeed show us our sins. This means that it showed us what is wrong. Example; you teach your kids, "Don't do ___ or you will be grounded". They only know that they wil be grounded because you taught them that. What do you also teach your kids? What is right. And yes grace is better then the law. Te grace is that they are not under the condemnation of the law as they were before that would require a punishment. Also, don't say " We (The Children of Israel; human." The only children of them is the Yasharalites, the 12 Tribes. The descendants of Jacob. Stop doing this Replacement Theology. You really think they all rejected the Messiah? Who was the 5000 Mashiach preached to, then? Who were the thousands who believed in Acts 21? What about the ones who confessed to believe when Lazarus was raised? All of them were Jews, which I prove in my previous article. And his yoke is easy. Our human inperfection is no excuse to say the commandments are done away with.

      "If one is not “keeping HIS commandments;” (I AGREE) the devil is working in him!” But when one has been “born again” (aka “anointed”), one can’t help but “keep HIS commandments” for IT is *HIM* working in you (Philippians 2:12) and is ALL “righteous!”

      Right. And one who is truly born again will keep Torah. Anyone can be dunked in water and claim to believe in him. Your spirit has to be in the right place and willing to accept the actual truth, otherwise it means nothing.

      Loving one another is not the only commandments. He had many more. Read it for yourself.

      You keep trying to correct me because you have this notion that you do not have to keep the commandments and you are still saved. You are also giving a very emotional argument with your constant exclamations and capitals, showing that this is coming more from emotion rather then scripture. While it is appreciated that you do this, it is erroneous ar best. For this I am going to include a few more links from my friend Darionel in the article, where he explains the commandments even more. If you want to watch those, they will be at the end of the article momentarily. I encourage you to turn from your ways. I have said all I could. All further comments from you will be denied. Have a good day.

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      Norine Williams 7 months ago

      No! To be "born again" is renewing one's spirit by "CONNECTING" to THE SPIRIT! John 3:5 "...Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (mama) and THE SPIRIT ("anointed;" Acts 1:2; 2:2), he CANNOT enter into the kingdom of GOD!" We're human! "We" can't keep laws! "We" can't "abstain from sin!" That's why JESUS had to come and send us HELP (John 14:26; 16:13)! "We" have a sinful nature! Galatians 5:17 says "For the "flesh" lusteth against THE SPIRIT, and THE SPIRIT against the "flesh:" and these are contrary the one to the other: so that "we" cannot do the things that "ye" [we] would. But if ye ["we"] be led of THE SPIRIT, ye ["we"] are NOT UNDER THE LAW." "We" are under THE SPIRIT! See? THE SPIRIT "leads;" "IF" we "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the HELP PROMISED in John 14:26 and 16:13!

      Ephesians 4:17-21 “This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk (not in THE SPIRIT), in the VANITY of their MIND, Having the understanding darkened. Being ALIENATED (not in THE SPIRIT) from the life of GOD through IGNORANCE that is in them, because of the BLINDNESS (not in THE SPIRIT) of their heart: Who being PAST FEELING (without “anointing”) have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. BUT YE HAVE NOT SO LEARNED CHRIST (If one has desires for these things HAVE NOT BEEN “ANOINTED” or “BORN AGAIN!” Not in THE SPIRIT!), If so be that ye HAVE HEARD HIM (“born again!”), and have been TAUGHT BY *HIM* (Holy Spirit leads!), as THE TRUTH is in JESUS. That ye (HOLY SPIRIT “DOES” for *HE* “WORKS” in us; Philippians 2:12)….” You see JESUS (aka HOLY SPIRIT) “WORKING IN US?” Because “WE” can’t “DO” IT as the Children of Israel couldn’t “DO” IT and is why JESUS had to come!

      I John 3:4 “The law” exposes sin or lets us know we are “in violation” (aka “SCHOOLMASTER”)! Scripture says in Romans 4:15 “Where there is NO LAW; there is NO SIN!” It’s just like the laws of the land! Example there was a time one couldn’t use their phone during flights. The law has now changed and if you remain in your “thinking” you will be on a flight “thinking” I can’t use my phone; looking at everyone else using theirs; JUDGING! Therefore, now that we are under the New Covenant and are “IN” Christ (aka “born again”), there is NO MORE SIN! I John 3:5 “And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and “IN” HIM (“anointed” or “born again”) IS “NO SIN!” Didn’t Jeremiah 31:33 say “…and I will remember their sins NO MORE” under the New Covenant?

      Romans 5:13; “in context!” Did not Romans 5:20-21 say “Moreover the law entered (to show us “sin”), that THE OFFENCE (aka “sin.” See? The law shows us our “sins!” That was Its job.) MIGHT ABOUND (“SHOW US” SIN!), But where sin abounded, “GRACE” (Look at JESUS!) did MUCH MORE ABOUND!” Did you hear that? “GRACE” (The New [“Better”] Covenant) “WORKS;” much better than “the law!” We (The Children of Israel; human) couldn’t keep it! We still can’t keep it without the HELP of the HOLY SPIRIT! Why so MANY have a HARD TIME “DOING GOOD!” JESUS told us “My yoke is “EASY” and my burden is light” (Matthew 11:30) ONLY “IF” we have “WAITED” (Acts 1:4) for the PROMISED HELP (John 14:26; 16:13) of the HOLY SPIRIT!

      If one is not “keeping HIS commandments;” (I AGREE) the devil is working in him!” But when one has been “born again” (aka “anointed”), one can’t help but “keep HIS commandments” for IT is *HIM* working in you (Philippians 2:12) and is ALL “righteous!”

      New Year’s Resolution? Point is, “we” can’t do ANYTHING “righteous” on *our* ability! WE NEED JESUS (aka HOLY SPIRIT)!

      HE gave us the commandments to establish “offence!” GOD is “JUST!” HE came and DIED to give us a “BETTER” easier Covenant to “reconcile” to HIM! Adam messed up! GOD “looked for a man to fill in the gap” (Ezekiel 22:30) but found NONE” so HE had to come and do it HIMSELF (I Timothy 3:16)! HE gave commandments to establish “offence” but KNEW man couldn’t keep and that we needed a Savior; so HE came! We don’t “remain in a lawless state of sin” because HE has provided a SPIRITUAL Covenant wherein HE “works in us” which makes it EASY only “IF” we “obey” HIS “LAST” commandment (Acts 1:4) which we should do “IF” we love HIM (John 14:15)! In Acts 1:4 HE “COMMANDED US” to “WAIT” for the PROMISED HELP in John 14:26; 16:13 but MOST haven’t yet “think” they have “a personal relationship” with GOD when in fact they have NO CONNECTION for HIM to “put HIS law in our hearts and minds” (Acts 1:2) as HE stated HE would under the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:33)! Go figure!

      Yes, “better laws, statutes, and commandments” (Romans 3:31) but TRUE “nothing is absolutely new is taught!” For example, HE gave me “a new law” that Moses was the Messenger of Old Covenant Law whereas Paul is the Messenger of New Covenant “GRACE!” Nothing different but Romans 3:31 says “We establish the law!” Hallelujah!

      TRUE! “Nothing has changed!” HE compressed ALL of the Old Covenant laws into ONE commandment! In HIS “departure speech,” HE told us “A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE ONE ANOTHER; as I have LOVED YOU (AGAPE LOVE), that ye also LOVE ONE ANOTHER. BY THIS all men know that ye are my disciples, IF YE HAVE LOVE ONE TO ANOTHER” (John 13:34-35)!

      Why do you think I keep “trying” to “CORRECT” twisted beliefs! I LOVE (AGAPE) ALL and as Christ “desire no one is lost” (II Peter 3:9)!


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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      I have listened. But you are making false claims.

      To be born again is a renewing of the mind and spirit. To "put off the old man" as Ephesians 4 22-24. To abstain from our sinful desires. What is sin? 1 John 3 4, transgression of the law. Read Romans 4 15 and 5 13 in context. This does not get rid of the commandments. So if you are not keeping these commandments, then the Most High is not the one working through you. It is the Devil.

      New Years Resolution? We are not in the new year according to scripture. That begins in the Spring.

      Tell me, why would he give us commandments that we could not keep? That is not just. So surely we can obey these commandments. Will we mess up a few times? Most likely. But that is no excuse for us to remain in a lawless state of sin.

      Better covenant. Not better laws, statutes, and commandments. In this better covenant nothing absolutely new is taught. For example, John 13 34 says he gave a new commandment, for them to love one another. Is this something absolutely new, as in not taught in Torah? Absolutely not. We see the same thing in Matthew 22 39 and Mark 12 31. Where is this taught in Torah? Leviticus 19 9-18. He taught the commandments. He made no changes. For Malachi 3 6 says the Most High never changes his mind, so these commandments are still right.

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      Norine Williams 7 months ago


      When we have been "born again" (John 3:7) or "anointed with the HOLY SPIRIT" (Acts 2:2), GOD "works through us!" Philippians 2:13 says "For it is GOD (aka HOLY SPIRIT) which WORKETH IN YOU both to will and to do the will of *HIS* good pleasure!" How can one go wrong "IF" GOD is "working in us?" How can we forget our "SCHOOLMASTER?" *HE* makes "more potent!" *HE* makes IT better! *HE* "works in us" to change us unto "righteousness!"

      We may have made New Year's Resolutions but I guarantee we won't be able to keep on our ability as the Children of Israel were not able to keep "laws" under the Old Covenant; making a New Covenant necessary! Hebrews 8:6-7 "But now hath he obtained a MORE EXCELLENT MINISTRY, by how much also *HE* is the mediator of a BETTER COVENANT, which was established upon BETTER PROMISES. For if the FIRST Covenant HAD BEEN FAULTLESS (Couldn't keep!), then should NO place have been sought for the SECOND!"


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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      Yes, all laws. All Torah.

      The law was indeed the schoolmaster. Because it was not in the hearts, but on stone and paper. Under the New Covenant it is in the hearts of true believers.

      Yes, by faith. And what will those with the real faith do? Follow the Torah. We are not justified by the Pharisees or any other man.

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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      Matthew 5 17 says he fulfilled the law. Fulfill it, or make it known?

      "Playroo", a Greek word being incorrectly translated as fulfilled in Matthew 5 17. The word means to fill to top, to make known fully. That is what Mashiach did. He made the law known fully against the Pharisees who enforced their own traditions.

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      Norine Williams 7 months ago

      Matthew 5:17-20 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy but to "FULFILL!" Let us define "FULFILL!" Bring to "completion" or "to finish" something! Now, if "completed" or "finished;" it's DONE!

      As in a contract, when all obligations stated therein or "completed," it's DONE or "finished!" Not that the contract is NOT WRITTEN nor filed in the courts, but it's finished!

      Colossians 2:14-15 says it all!

      Read the Book of Hebrews "Christ has Done It ALL!"

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      AF Mind 7 months ago

      He never violated it. Remember, he was the only one who kept it perfectly. But there were cases where he healed and ate on it. That isn't violating it. Remember how I talked about how the Pharisees were hypocrites? In those same passages regarding the Sabbath they get onto him for healing a man on the Sabbath, but then he turns around and points out how they would save one of their animals if it fell into a pit on the Sabbath. He said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. Lawful. According to Torah. If it is the Sabbath and an emergency comes up such as sickness or injury, it is lawful for me to do what I need to do in order to fix it. However unnecessary things are not to be done. And since you refused to research where the disciples and the Messiah kept Sabbath, here is a list of the many times they did so.

      There is no mention of food, though. He said unwashed hands do not defile you. If it was about food, why didn't he say unwashed hands and food? And if it did not defile us, why give us the law to begin with? That would just be unnecessary. And you might say, "Oh it was just to make Israel different from the pagans." If that were so then the pagans were clearly doing something wrong here by eating pork. If it is about food, show me where it says food.

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      Rhyon 7 months ago

      If sin is only defined as transgression of the law then I guess Jesus sinned. He deliberately violated the sabbath a couple times in the presence of the Pharisees.

      Matt 15 is being eisegeted here. This passage is making a clear distinction between the stomach and the heart and it absolutely is talking about eating (see v.17). That which goes into our stomach doesn't make us unclean rather the things that proceed out of us. This fits with the two great commands Jesus gives in Matt 22 which encompass 9 of the 10 commandments but focuses on the spirit of the law or what the commandments were trying to accomplish. God wants us to love Him and love others. When we do this we won't have idols or false gods, steal, cheat, lie, etc. Eating pork, mixing fabrics, circumcision have nothing to do with how we interact with others.

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      Jeremiah 31 33 "But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Elohim, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people." When they are established in their land they shall have the laws written in their inward parts and shall be the children of Yah.

      I answered those last things in my article. He is the Messiah. He did die, and it was to fulfill the law and bring his people back into the light and lead them back on the way to true Torah following.

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      Norine Williams 8 months ago

      AF, can you explain "The New Covenant" when it was initially spoken of, what was promised in it and when it went into effect?

      Who was Jesus? Did HE really die? What for?