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Motion to Divide the Bible

Updated on June 6, 2017

The books of the Bible were written as separate books.

The original authors did not conceived of a "Bible."
The original authors did not conceived of a "Bible."

The Protestants separated 7 books from the Bible.

The Bible consists of 73 books if you are Catholic and 66 books if you are Protestant. After about 1,000 years of canonization, the Protestants removed 7 books from The Bible. 1

In about 367 AD, St. Athanasius came up with a list of 73 books for the Bible that he believed to be divinely inspired. This list was finally approved by Pope Damasus I in 382 AD, and was formally approved by the Church Council of Rome in that same year. Later Councils at Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) ratified this list of 73 books. In 405 AD, Pope Innocent I wrote a letter to the Bishop of Toulouse reaffirming this canon of 73 books. The Protestants then removed seven books from the canonized Bible. 2

The original authors could not have known or imagined their book would be combined with so many others to make one bound volume.

The Old Testament depicts God as jealous, vengeful and wrathful.

Joshua killed men, women and children at the command of the Lord.
Joshua killed men, women and children at the command of the Lord.

The Old Testament depicts God as violent.

The Old Testament depicts God as violent. This is blasphemy.

Numbers 21:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities: and he called the name of the place Hormah.

Numbers 31:17-18 King James Version (KJV)

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Joshua 6:21 King James Version (KJV)

21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

There are many more references to violent acts done by the Hebrews in the name of their God. Violence does not justify violence. Renounce the violent God of Israel. Grow and mature spiritually and adopt the peaceful teachings of Jesus. Love one another, love your enemy, etc.

The fault lies not with God, but in ourselves.

All evil is a projection of the person. All acts of violence, regardless of explanation must be renounced.

The Lord of the New Testament does not condemn.

The Bible consists of the Old Testament (OT) and the New Testament (NT). The OT depicts The Lord as jealous, vengeful and wrathful. The Lord is a warrior God bent on fighting and killing to establish and maintain Israel.

The NT depicts The Lord as a loving, compassionate, personal father of everyone (we are all brothers and sisters). The Lord of the NT does not condemn, but heals with forgiveness. Refer to the teachings of Jesus in the story of the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32) and the Adulteress (John 8:4-11). In neither story did the father (or Jesus) condemn the person. He did Not judge. Jesus said, "You judge by human standards; I judge no one," John 8:15.

Divide the Bible into its severable books because the ideals and teachings of the OT and NT are so different.

Because the ideals and teachings of the OT and NT are so different and

the original authors wrote separately and

the Protestants have already separated 7 books from the canonized Bible and

the NT teachings are superior to the OT teachings,

it is proposed to divide The Bible into its several books.

Set high ideals. An Ideal is a standard of behavior. It is also a mental concept which is part of the spiritual.

To set your ideal, break it down under three headings: Physical, Mental and Spiritual. Analyze your daily activities and motives behind these activities. Your ideals change as you become either more spiritual-minded or more material-minded.

Division of the Bible would emphasize a compassionate God.

Division of the Bible would have the following advantages.

The OT depiction of a warrior God can be renounced and

The NT depiction of a compassionate personal father of everyone can be emphasized and

Such division would absolve The Lord of allegations of child abuse and

Such division would avoid allegations of a schizophrenic god and

Such division would reconcile Christian teaching with other major religions of the world.

Is God Schizophrenic?

OT
 
NT
If you do not listen to me I will make you eat your children.
There are either different Gods...
Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.
 
 
 
 
...or one dangerously schizophrenic God.
 

Warrior God or Compassionate Father?

Can you renounce the OT, "Warrior God?"

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References

1 In 1534, Martin Luther translated the Bible into German. He grouped the seven deuterocanonical books of the Old Testament under the title "Apocrypha," declaring. "These are books which are not held equal to the Sacred Scriptures and yet are useful and good for reading." Luther also categorized the New Testament books: those of God's work of salvation (John, Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, I Peter, and I John); other canonical books (Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts, rest of Pauline epistles, II Peter, and II John); an non-canonical books (Hebrews, James, Jude, Revelation, and books of the Old Testament). Many Church historians speculate that Luther was prepared to drop what he called the "non-canonical books" of the New Testament but refrained from doing so because of possible political fall-out.

2 The Bible as we know it predated Constantine by some long period of time. None of the original texts still remain, but three Most Ancient Copies do exist. These are the Codex Siniaticus, originally a codex of the Greek Bible belonging to the fourth century. It was purchased from the Soviet Republic of Russia in 1933 by Great Britain, and is now in the British Museum. The Codex Alexandrinus was probably written in the fifth century. It contains the entire Greek Bible with the exception of 40 lost pages, and is also stored in the British Museum. The Codex Vaticanus was probably written in the fourth century, and parts of the this codex are also lost. It is in the possession of the Vatican Library at Rome.
Next comes the Ancient Versions. These are the Septuagint Version, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Peshito or Syriac Version and the Latin Vulgate.. The Septuagint Version of the Old Testament was translated from the Hebrew into Greek by seventy (or seventy two) scholars at the famous Alexandria Library in Alexandria, Egypt during the reign of Ptolemy Philadelphus (285-247 BC) The word Septuagint comes from the Latin for Seven. It was given that name from the seventy scholars who did the translation. A large number of manuscript copies of this text exist. The Septuagint became the common Bible of the Greek-speaking Jews and later the Christians. It does not follow the same order of books as does the Hebrew Version, and also contains several books that are not contained in the Hebrew Bible. These books are known as the Apocrypha. The majority of Old Testament quotations given in the New Testament are from the Septuagint version Old Testament.

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    • Jay C OBrien profile imageAUTHOR

      Jay C OBrien 

      3 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Thank you Mr. Happy. I also hope the Vatican makes all books public, but remember, they are only books. The Great Spirit resides in us.

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      Mr. Happy 

      3 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      "To set your ideal, break it down under three headings: Physical, Mental and Spiritual." - As someone who has trained in Martial Arts, I can attest that this is good advice: Mind, Body and Spirit, work on those.

      "The Codex Vaticanus was probably written in the fourth century, and parts of the this codex are also lost. It is in the possession of the Vatican Library at Rome." - There are many books lost in the Vatican's own Library. I cannot wait for the day when the books in the Vatican's vaults will be made public. There is a vast amount of history locked-up in there.

      I am not myself religious even though, I was baptised as Greek Orthodox. I am at a point now, where I recognise Wakan Tanka, The Great Spirit, or the Great Mystery. With that in mind, I respect all religions and people of Faith. I think if we all acted with respect, compassion, empathy, love, acceptance and understanding, we can create a better world for everyone, irrespective of their religion, or even if they were atheists/agnostics.

      Thank You for your article. I appreciate it. Always good to read a good message. Cheers! : )

    • Jay C OBrien profile imageAUTHOR

      Jay C OBrien 

      3 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Thank you Jean Bakula. I am hopeful that fundamentalists such as JW will come to the realization that we should have a higher Ideal. We should have a high Ideal as Jesus describes rather than a violent Ideal/God.

      I can only speculate as to why the Rabbis wrote what they did and defend it so vehemently. Here is a possible explanation:

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Atlantian...

    • Jean Bakula profile image

      Jean Bakula 

      3 months ago from New Jersey

      I agree with your sentiments about how God is portrayed in some passages of the Torah. He does sound mean and vengeful. I've searched most religions, and am a fence sitter. But although I've read the entire Bible, the Old Testament does bother me with some of the warrior like things God does. I prefer the New Testament, and Jesus's approach of love and forgiveness.

      I had a friend with whom I engaged on a long Bible study at one time. She was a Jehovah's Witness, which made it harder, as they believe every word as literal. We had some very lively conversations, and although we didn't keep in touch, I was always glad I studied with her.

    • Jay C OBrien profile imageAUTHOR

      Jay C OBrien 

      3 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Yes Anna, we agree our Creator is a merciful one. Also, I believe God is Good, Totally Good and always has been. I believe we should only accept as scripture stories which depict God properly. A loving parent would Never torture or kill their child in discipline as described in some stories in the Bible.

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      Anna Watson 

      3 months ago from Atlanta, GA

      Good afternoon Jay,

      I could be mistaken, but I've always felt pretty clear on your position: our loving Creator is a merciful one. While we may differ on a detail or two (who doesn't?) I've never disagreed with your position.

      God bless!

    • Jay C OBrien profile imageAUTHOR

      Jay C OBrien 

      3 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Hi Anna, I agree there are good passages and stories in the OT and I have heard people say God changed the rules. Did He change, or did our Perception of God change? I believe our perception of God changed. What bothers me is why someone would write down that God killed subservient women and children and animals in the first place. How demented were they? In your cat story, would you torture or kill your cat to teach it a lesson? Of course not! So why is this type of story written in the Bible? See Joshua. By dividing the Bible into its original books we can better decide what kind of God we believe in. Do you understand?

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      Anna Watson 

      4 months ago from Atlanta, GA

      Hi Jay!

      Well written article, as usual. I understand that you have issues with many Old Testament depictions of God, but there are many, many wonderfully positive messages in the OT as well. It would be fantastic if more people emphasized Old Testament passages that portrayed the merciful side of God. I know that many other people struggle as you do. It's a shame that so many people see God as a violent and vengeful deity rather than the loving creator that you and I know Him to be. I grieve for those who are only see God as cruel.

      I do not believe that God is schizophrenic, and I know you don't think so either. However, i do believe He knows best.

      Any loving parent would scold a wayward child. If God is our father, I would hope that He would discipline me. I know I have faults, and a metaphorical slap to the head would do me good every now and then. I'm not a parent, but just this afternoon I had to raise my voice at my cat. I hate to yell, but he was chewing wires. If I didn't startle him into paying attention he could have been electrocuted. He surely saw my actions as wicked, but I would have been far more cruel if I'd let him continue such a dangerous action.

      To make a short story long: my cat, Andy, is incapable of understanding what I do or why I do it. Me, an ignorant human, is incapable of understanding an Almighty God. But I must trust that He knows best, even when I as I acknowledge that I may never understand why.

      Still, I enjoyed the article, thanks for sharing!

    • Jay C OBrien profile imageAUTHOR

      Jay C OBrien 

      2 years ago from Houston, TX USA

      What is scripture? Were the books removed from the Catholic Bible scripture? Why were only some books included in the Bible in the first place? Is the Book of Mormon scripture?

      Look to the ideal. What is God like to you?

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      Taiwo Kareem 

      2 years ago from Salford

      You are only twisting scriptures. I think you are a cult.

      Of course the old testament does not end in the old testament. It depicts God as a loving God who loves his creation but doesn't joke with sin because sin damages everything. If you are going to be biased and put verses you like and then throw away verses you don't like then I think you yourself are blaspheming.

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