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Simple Facts About Islam and Muslim

Updated on July 6, 2017

In my journey browsing Hubs I keep found comments, ideas or thoughts about Muslim which are sometimes funny, even hillarious, but sometimes really annoying. Here some simple facts about Muslim which based on those founding. I know very well it is not enough and It will grow for sure in time if I can found another facts to add. I hope it can help anybody who curious about Muslim thought and life. ^_^

Hijab (veil/cover) being used by Women to protect Men because most of Men naturally weak in front of woman's beauty.

Do You Know? (About Allah)

  1. Allah (in Arabic), Alah (in Aramaic: Jesus language) and Eloh (in Hebrew, or Elohim with im being add as respect) have same meaning : God.
  2. Muslim never worshiping God of the Moon, God of the Sun, nor God of the Wind. Muslim worshiping God who created Moon, Sun, Wind, along with the whole Universe, and every living creature inside it. The only God who created you!
  3. Muslim only worshiping one God, there is no God but Allah.
  4. Al Qur'an is the book that written by Allah, passed to Muhammad, Pbuh through Gabriel's who recited it for Muhammad to memorized, and passed again to Muhammad best friends in the same way.

As a Muslim Women, being covered from head to toe In summer is indeed hot, but we understand very well that Hell is way hotter!

Do You Know? (About Muhammad)

  1. Muhammad is human being, just like everyone of us. Being Prophet doesn't mean He is God.
  2. Muhammad, Pbuh is not the one who written Al Qur'an. He even can't wrote nor read at the time when the first surah passed down.
  3. Muhammaddo not allowed somebody written down all of his words except for Allah words only, because he is afraid his ummah will start worshiping him, like Jesus being worshiping by Christian.
  4. Imam Mahdi's name is Muhammad and His Father's name is Abdullah, but heis only descendant of Muhammad, SAW from His daugther, Fatimah Az Zahra.

You don't have to shout out load to speak to us, even covered with veil, we still can hear you!

Do You Know? (About Women)

  1. Niqab Woman, Just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean she doesn't have hair, noose, ear and mouth! And doesn't mean she is weird and not beautiful! She still Woman, feminin, sweet, funny and love to being spoil too, only more brave and pious.
  2. Muslim Women have obligation to wear Hijab (cover of hair) and loss clouses, but not every Muslim Women have strong will to do that. You can meet many unhijabi Muslim women in the country like Indonesia, Malaysia or any other country where they look just like you, wearing sexy shirt, even bikini. It is simply because not all Muslim is Muslim from their heart. It doesn't mean they are bad though. Just less obidient to Allah.
  3. Islam, the religion for all people in all places and times, which takes the equality of men and women very seriously. It sees the liberation of women as essential and considers modesty, good character, and manners to be the way to achieve such liberation.
  4. According to Qur'an, Women's duty is to taking care her husband belonging and to nurture and educate their children and Men's duty is to provide his wife and children need and protect them. In my term it is called balance, when man and woman become different pieces which are match to fill each others lack, emptiness and disabilities, like day and night, sun and moon or hot and cold.
  5. Married Muslim women are completely free from the obligation of supporting and maintaining the family, yet may work if they wish too.
  6. Women in Islam have the right to own property, to control their own money or money that they earn, to buy and sell, and to give gifts and charity.
  7. Women have formal rights of inheritance and what is belong to woman when she marry man, will belong to her only. And if she is working, she doesn't have obligation to share her payment to her Husband. And man can't touch her wife belonging, but only if it is what his wife want him to do.
  8. Women have the right to an education; seeking and acquiring knowledge is an obligation on all Muslims, male or female.
  9. The beating to wife only allowed in serious incident (which is involving adultery and not in other circumstances!) when it is needed if the wife do not want to repentant on her mistake but it is only for reminder, which it's mean can't be doing under anger in harsh and violence way. But if Man getting unsatisfied with his wife attitude, he strongly suggested better to ask help from someone who have qualification to help, and not to go by his own anger.


Muslim women wear Niqaf to make sure she will never look as object of sex by men but value by her brain and deed only

Do You Know? (About Muslim in General)

  1. Just because Western world think they have the best way of life, it doesn't mean they are in the eye of Muslim. Just because Western people think Muslim is back date religion, it doesn't mean we are back date. Give it up, people, we have different perspective about the life and liberation, so let it be.
  2. Muslim do not afraid to non believer of Islam but Muslim afraid of non believer life style. Free sex, alcohol, minim outfit are big sins because it is bad not only for body, also for soul and have ability to destroying life.
  3. Adzan or the calling for prayer never stop being sound even a second in this world. Where Adzan already finished to be sound in one place, in another place Adzan already start being sound, and when it stop, another adzan already start being sound again in another place, and go on and go on and go on, and it keep happening 24 hours a day, 30 days a month, 12 months a year, and the whole life of human kind, until the end of the day is come..
  4. Muslim do prayers 5 times a day, 1 at dawn, 2 during the day, and 2 in the night. But usually Muslim love to add more prayers than only that 5 times.
  5. Terrorist might be Muslim, but Muslim are not terrorist.
  6. Just because one or two Muslim doing bad things, it doesn't mean all of Muslim are bad! It is simply in the mind of the people who had been wrong and not the religion.

You said we are oppressed? But I said my veil is freedom

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We are not sleeping nor bathing inside our veil. We used Pajama, sleeping gown or comfortable but old shirt too in daily life

Allah in Al Qur'an and Muhammad, SAW order Men to protect and taking care women. (Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.114)

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    hello Freya

    you write so beautifully,so peacefully.The Catholics also pray around the clock as you say Muslims do.Where they cease in one place they are started in another.In fact there are sisters and brothers who do nothing else but offer prayers up for the world 24/7.Beautiful isn't it?

    I have some stupid questions to ask,if you can answer.What happens if a young unmarried girl is caught in adultery? What happens if a young unmarried man is caught in adultery?What happens if they do not repent?Why should a man beat his wife,to force her to repent?What if she does not?Why Jihad?If I you perform Jihad what is your reward?Why Are you rewarded?

    I stop now so I do not drive you crazy.Peace Be With you Freya

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Muslim women wear Niqaf to make sure she will never look as object of sex by men but value by her brain and deed only

    I see why she would wear it,but they still look beautiful,so does it indeed work?Are these pictures posted to show us her brains and deed or her beauty?

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Christine, Thank you for stopping by, and no, your question is not stupid at all.

    Let start with the last question first: I put the pictures, first, because I really love them. They are beautiful, don't you agree?

    And second, to show others that beauty doesn't have to be show with minim garment because even with cover, women can still look beautiful (it is what we are, made to be beautiful), and that is why we should respecting ourselves by wearing polite outfit than many women love to wear today.

    Different with these pictures here, the real niqaf women will never walk the street with the look like that. Make up and beauty only for husband, not to display to others. That is why they avoid make up and colourful garment. only black to cover their beauty.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Now, next question.

    "What happens if a young unmarried girl is caught in adultery?”

    If she is proven by law doing such sin and don’t want to repentant the punishment for her is 100 lashes.

    “What happens if a young unmarried man is caught in adultery?"

    If he is proven by law doing such sin and don’t want to repentant the punishment for him is 100 lashes.

    "What happens if they do not repent?"

    If law proven without doubt they done it and don’t want to repent, then they have to face the punishment.

    “Why should a man beat his wife, to force her to repent?”

    Because it is better for her to be beat than confine to death, (but beating only can be done for remaindering purpose and not drive by anger).

    “What if she does not?”

    Her husband can send her back to her family to help them fix the matter, and if it is can’t be solve, they can ask help from someone who have ability to mediated and help them fixing the problems (or he can just divorce her).

    Yes, it is sound cruel if I just give you the simple detail like that. But here is the whole explanation for that:

    Islam has taken a firm and decisive stance against adultery. Allah, the Almighty, commands in explicit and unequivocal words:

    “And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way.” (Al-Israa’: 32)

    Islam not only prohibits Zina, but also closes all the avenues and means leading to it. This is achieved by prohibiting every step and means leading to stimulating desires, opening ways for illicit sexual relations between men and women, and promoting indecency and obscenity.

    Punishment of Zina is 100 lashes for married and unmarried person; and confine to death to the married one which only can do under really strict reason. But the punishment is executed only in case of accused being caught by the law. Even in that case, if it is proved beyond doubt that the accused had truly repented over his sin before being caught, the punishment is to be condoned.

    “Allah accepts the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and repent soon afterwards; to them will Allah turn in mercy; for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom. Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil until death faces one of them and he says ‘Now have I repented indeed’; nor of those who die rejecting faith; for them have we prepared a punishment most grievous”. (4:17-18)

    It was asked of Imam Ibne Timiyah if a man was entitled to the punishment of unlawful sex and he atoned for the sin before the imposition of punishment, would the punishment be condoned by his atonement. He replied; “If one resolves to leave unlawful sex, theft or drinking before the case is produced before the Imam, then it is proper that the punishment will be condoned like it is condoned for the Maharibeen (the wagers of war against Allah and the Apostle and the seditionist) if they repent before coming under the grip of law”. (Majmoo’-ul-Fatawa Sheikh-ul-Islam) Says Ibne Qayyim: “If this is true that Allah does not punish anyone who repents, then it is also true that no punishment should be implemented on a repentant. Allah has made clear that even the Maharibeen are forgiven if they repent before coming under grip. It is despite of the fact that their crime is extremely atrocious. Obviously the lesser offences will in the first place be pardoned if there is true repentance already.” (A’alaam-ul-Muqi’een quoted in Haqeeqat-e-Raj’m P.217).

    The sinner, if repentant, is not required to voluntarily report his sin to law. Instead, he should ask forgiveness of Allah and resolve to stay away from the sin in future. ‘The Prophet of Allah said; “Stay away from those loathsome evils, which Allah has forbidden you from. If someone through a slip indulges in any such act then he should remain concealed behind the veil of Allah and ask forgiveness of Him. But if someone will produce his neck before us (i.e. stick to the sinful activities unashamedly and boldly) then we shall enforce the code over him.”

    (Bulughul Maraam; Kitabul Hudood; Ibne Haj’r Asqalani)

    “Said Anas Bin Malik, ‘I was present beside the Prophet (Pbuh) when a man came and said; ‘O Prophet of Allah I have committed a punishable sin, so enact the punishment’. The Prophet (Pbuh) did not ask him any question till it was time for Namaz. After he had offered the prayer with the Prophet (Pbuh), he again approached him and said; “O Prophet of Allah I have committed a punishable sin, so judge me by the book of Allah”. The Prophet (Pbuh) asked him, ‘ Have you not offered prayer with me’? He replied, ‘Yes’. Then the Prophet (Pbuh) said, ‘Allah has pardoned your sin and your punishment.” (Bukhari).

    The Prophet (Pbuh) did not even ask him what crime or sin he had committed. This is because the purpose of punishment in Islamic system is to punish the consistent and habitual criminal so that others should learn from his severe punishment and do not dare to follow in his footsteps.

    The penalty for adultery is not stoning to death (like many Muslim country believe it) unless he is a hardened and habitual sinner who is a perpetual disturber of peace of the society. Qur’an clearly spells out the related law;

    “The woman and the man guilty of unlawful sex (adultery or fornication), flog each of them with a hundred stripes; let not compassion move you in their case in a matter prescribed by Allah if ye believe in Allah and the Last day; and let a party of the believers witness their punishment”. (24:2)

    But few Islamic laws have been so misunderstood as the penalty of illicit sexual intercourse. It is generally believed by a majority including some renowned scholars that the above punishment is only for the unmarried offenders. It is therefore expedient that this issue be discussed in detail.

    There is nothing to prove the contention of stoning to death being the punishment for adultery in the book of God. On the contrary there are clear indications in Qur’an that punishment of 100 lashes is for all adult and sane persons making illicit sexual intercourse, be they married for unmarried, men or women.

    “If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess; and Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another; wed them with the leave of their owners and give them their dowers according to what is reasonable; they should be chaste not lustful nor taking paramours; when they are taken in wedlock if they fall into shame their punishment is half that for free women...” (4:25)

    There is no half punishment of stoning to death, and punishment for free women is 100 lashes.

    “As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation). “ (Al Qur’an Surah An Nisa (4):15)

    The new legislation would be meaningless if it comes in the form of death sentence. She was already confined to house till death.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    There are some hadidth about the stones to death for people who do adultery, but in my understanding there is no such punishment ever written in Al Qur’an. Qur’an is the first book to listen and the first priority to answer all problems. Hadidth and Sunnah only used to explain what it is written inside Al Qur’an. Muslim can’t changed this priority because it will caused error!

    Quoted from By S. Abdullah Tariq (Islamic voice):

    “The widespread misunderstanding even among scholars is due to misinterpretation of some traditions and the wrong order of the priorities. Muslim priorities were clearly spelled out by the Qur’an and the Prophet (Pbuh). They are that Muslim should be guided by only Qur’an in the first place (not even Qur’an and Sunnah if the unambiguous order of Qur’an is present in any case). If the order of Qur’an is not very clear, Muslim should refer to the Sunnah for the exposition. Lastly, if doubts persist, the Tafaqquh or Fiqh should be resorted to. Reversal of this order of priorities has caused the misunderstandings and the differences in a number of problems. It is not that the Sunnah in any case can be contradictory to Qur’an but the possibility of error in reaching the Sunnah to Muslim through the traditions can not be ruled out while the Qur’an is safe to every letter. In case of the present problem, there are a number of contradictory traditions. When Muslim try to interpret Qur’an in their light Muslim are bound to be stuck with something that does not appeal to the common sense. Conversely, Muslim have in this case explicit directions of Qur’an, which should be used to verify the authenticity of the traditions.”

    Quoting from Haqeeqat-e-Raj’m, written by Maulana Inayatullah Subhani, a Ph.D. in Qur’an studies from Riyadh, following are a few instances;

    * “Because the dictum of Allah is that in the ease of the woman and the man guilty of Zina (adultery or fornication), ‘flog each of them with a hundred stripes’, it includes all types of Zaanis (adulterers and fornicators)”. (Imam Qartabi; Al- Jaame’ Li-Ahkaamil Qur’an)

    * “The founder of Ikhwan-ul-Muslimun, Imam Hasan Al-Banna had attracted the attention of the ruler of Egypt towards some reforms to fashion the Egyptian society into Islamic mould. Among other very important things, which he mentioned, was; The open and veiled prostitution should be eradicated. Illicit sex must be reckoned an extremely abhorrent crime, whatever the circumstances and whoever commits it should be flogged” (P.194; Majmu’a Rasaail-ul-Imam Al-Shaheed Hasan Al-Banna)

    * “The dictum of Allah about the woman or man who makes illicit sex to flog each of them with a hundred stripes, implies with clarity that the punishment of unlawful sex is 100 lashes, no less no more”. (P,35; Ilm-e-Usool-ul-Fiqh; Sheikh Abdul Wahab Khalaaf)

    *”Late Imam Zahra had sent a delegation to Libyan president Col. Gaddafi with this message.. If you are sincere in your intention of implementing Islamic Shariah in your country, then our blessings and good wishes are with you. However, remember that the punishment of unlawful sex in Islam is not stoning to death but 100 lashes. Do not implement any such thing in your enthusiasm that the world gets an opportunity to laugh on Islam”. (P.286; Haqeeqat-e-Raj’m)

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Now, let's talk about Adultery Itself and why Al Qur'an have to put strict rule on it to avoid. Let's be honest, what we have in the world today: free sex, did it giving us something good?

    Abortion, child without parents, sexual disease such as Herpes and AIDS, or Sore Blister (which is sadly reported become so common in western world, which infected people only by simple kiss, and the victims not only adult and those people who committed free sex, but transmitted to their children if this children born when the mother have the disease), named it! Or in sore blister cases, transmitted when they got kissed from their parents.

    Don't you think it is enough reason to make adultery become forbidden? And for this sin, because it is can infected others (in the way it is transmitted the disease) it should be ruled by strict law to make sure it is being avoid by Muslim society.

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Although I understand the problems of adultery,fornication. I do not think strict laws are the answer.One reason is that people do not always judge right,so what if people come forward as witness,but it is not true.A person is judged wrongly.I do not think that is fair. The Bible teaches in Matthew 5:28 KJV

    But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

    Mark 10

    6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together , let not man put asunder . 10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. 11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery .

    John 8

    1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down , and taught them. 3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery , in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned : but what sayest thou? 6 This they said , tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself , and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself , and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said , No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go , and sin no more.

    How can we cast stones,give lashes,judge when we arre all sinners ourselves

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    prettydarkhorse 7 years ago from US

    very nice dear and this is an awesome hub, you write so very nicely, Maita

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    I make mistype in my second comments, It said:

    “What if she does not?”

    Her husband can send her back to her family to help them fix the matter, and if it is can’t be solve, they can ask help from someone who have ability to mediated and help them fixing the problems (or he can just divorce her).

    in should be:

    “What if she does not?”

    Her husband can send her back to her family to ask help from them fix the matter, and if it is can’t be solve, they can ask help from someone who have ability to mediated and help them fixing the problems (or he can just divorce her).

    I'm really Sorry for the delay before because I need to sleep first. ^_^ Now I will try to answer your question first about adultery before we move to Jihad topic.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hallo, Maita, Thank you for stopping by and read this. ^_^

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    You said : "what if people come forward as witness,but it is not true. A person is judged wrongly. I do not think that is fair."

    I'm really agree; of course that is not fair. Law in modern time, even with all technology we have today, some people still can be convicted to the crime they never done.

    Christine, Islam is strict religion. Allah put rule in every aspect of human life: for example about how to behave in many circumstance, how treat others, what to eat, what we cannot eat, what to wear, how to choose partners in married, everything, including how to rule society.

    In my opinion there is two kind of rule those had been put to human to obey. Rule that use to manage human relationship with Allah, and rule that use to manage human relationship with others. Rule that use to manage human relationship with God, the punishment on it only God who have right to judge, but rule that use to manage human relationship with others, the sin of it have to be solve between human, because inside the act of punishment lies the big lesson on how to behave in society. Inside those rule there are several guides about doing court and witnessing just like every governments in the world use to rule their society.

    Life is sacred, according to Islam and most other world faiths. But how can one hold life sacred, yet still support capital punishment? The Qur'an answers,

    "...Take not life, which God has made sacred, except by way of justice and law. Thus does He command you, so that you may learn wisdom" (6:151).

    In Islam, therefore, the death penalty can be applied by a court as punishment for the most serious of crimes. Ultimately, one's eternal punishment is in God's hands, but there is a place for punishment in this life as well. The spirit of the Islamic penal code is to save lives, promote justice, and prevent corruption and tyranny.

    Islamic philosophy holds that a harsh punishment serves as a deterrent to serious crimes that harm individual victims, or threaten to destabilize the foundation of society. According to Islamic law (in the first verse quoted above), the following two crimes can be punishable by death:

    • Intentional murder

    • Spreading mischief in the land

    Spreading mischief in the land" can mean many different things, but is generally interpreted to mean those crimes that affect the community as a whole, and destabilize the society. Crimes that have fallen under this description have included:

    • Treason / Apostacy (when one leaves the faith and joins the enemy in fighting against the Muslim community)

    • Terrorism

    • Land, sea, or air piracy

    • Rape

    • Adultery

    • Homosexual behavior

    It is important to note that there is no place for vigilantism in Islam -- one must be properly convicted in an Islamic court of law before the punishment can be meted out. The severity of the punishment requires that very strict evidence standards must be met before a conviction is found. The court also has flexibility to order less than the ultimate punishment (for example, imposing fines or prison sentences), on a case-by-case basis. How to do that had been guide in Qur’an in many detail, Including inside it, about become witness. (Sources : Huda)

    Not Everyone can be Judge, and also not everyone can be witness. There are several Qualification for them.

    To be witness they have to be :

    1.They have to be Muslim, except in special case it is needed (Al Qur’an Surah al- ma’idah (5) : 106-107),

    2.They have to possess by fair character of person (Al Qur’an Surah At Thalaq (65): 2; Al Baqarah (2): 282; Al Hujurat (49):6; An Nur (24): 4),

    3.They have to be adult and in health state of mind.

    4.They have to be able to speak.

    5.They have to have good memory and have ability to recite something to prove their memory is good.

    6.They do not under suspicion as someone who could be have ill intention. (Quote from Fiqih Sunnah by Sayid Sabiq)

    False witness is major Sin, because it can put innocent people in misery.

    “…..and avoid false speech, that is to say, ascribing partners to God in your [uttering of the] talbiya, or [avoid] bearing false witness;” Al Qur’an Surrah Al Hajj (22) : 30

    "And mix no truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth while you know." Al Qur’an 01:42.

    It was narrated that Abu Bakrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Shall I not tell you of the greatest of major sins?” We said, “Yes indeed, O Messenger of Allaah.” He said, “Associating others with Allaah (shirk) and disobedience towards parents.” He was reclining, but then he sat up and said, “And false speech and false witness, and false speech and false witness,” and he kept on saying it until I thought he would never stop. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5631; Muslim, 87).

    And for the false witness of course there is punishment wait to be face.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Can we judge others while we are too a sinful person?

    Take a look at the world around you, Christine. How people can be president and rule the country if he can't ruled himself? How people can make rule to guide society if they are the same people who have tendency to break this rules they made themselves? How people can sit in their place as judge and Prosecutor if they are criminal too? Now, how can you accept their law when you know how bad and corrupt they are?

    Because you know that is important to be follow the guide to become good citizen. Isn’t that right? And you follow them because their rules have to be paid as soon as you are committed your crime. So, why it can goes the same with Islamic Law?

    Muslim chose to follow Al Qur'an than only men made law, because we don't want to be fool by false law. And Al Qur’an had put strict guide in ruling country; including inside, how to choose leader, judge, prosecutor, lawyer, witness, etc. This rules not men made, so the one who made it cannot be accused as corrupt, and as long as people keep put Al Qur’an as their guide to choose their ruler, there will be no problems at all.

    But all leader, judge, prosecutor and lawyer, they all are just human being, and just like your leader, judges, prosecutors and lawyers, they can be corrupt too. But it is only human who have flaw, Christine, not the law.

    If we don't want to stand in front of the law, and let the sinner walk without punishment, then how bad the society will become? It will be full of sinner, criminal and crazy people who think they are own the world in their hands. So, what you like the most, let them free and have ability to thread you every time you do not aware (for general crime), or punish them to make sure they will never give you worries any more (in adultery, if we let them go when they do not want to repent, they can have possibility to spread their ill conduct to others) and their punishment will taught others to not do the same mistake with them? (Please remember, the punishment for adultery only can apply if the person do not want to repent while that person already proven doing sin without doubt by fair trial) The choice in your hands to be make, of course. :)

    Too bad I'm lacking of time right now. I will continue my answer later. I hope you don't mind. Have a good day, Friends. ^_^

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Hello Freya

    I dreamed about this all night,in fact i was awake at 4 am thinking,you know our society(mine that is) is run by men who allow all kinds of things that are wrong,so children grow up seeing things they should not.So I see yes that is true. Is it good for us,no it is not.So then what about the whole world,if you lived here in Canada it is full of sexual immorality,you cannot stone them all or lash them all.God does not want us to believe in him because we are forced to.It is a free choice.

    Please Freya I know we are not here to hurt each other,so know I am not offended or hurt by your speech,I am not trying to hurt you either.

    I must say your government at least tries to do what is right,I understand that,but 100 lashes,who can survive such a harsh punishment?I can no bare to think about those who must endure this harsh treatment.I know you say they can repent and it is okay,but I hear that in many cases that is not always the case.So then there is a flaw with the system.

    I knew a Muslim man that told me he walked home once with a girl,the police saw them,he said they knew they were in trouble,so he told her to run.He was caught,they did awful things to him,yet he committed no crime.They beat him and sexually molested him,He finally got them to call his father,who is wealthy and respected,his father came and got him out with money.

    So even in what seems to be a good system there can be flaws.

    As humans we can both agree we are human,so even good leaders,are prone to make mistakes.

    The apostle Paul said we worship with our spirit,our spirit man wants to do what is right,but our flesh can be weak.So we worship in spirit,if we sin we ask God for forgiveness.He forgives us,true repentance.

    Jesus paid the price of our fleshly sins,by staying on the cross.So that we were no longer bound by the law but that we could repent.So we have been given a time to repent,all men who do wrong things can come to know Him and love Him,to be loved by God.

    The apostle Paul was a sinner,He killed Christians,he deserved death,yet God came to him,changed his life and used him to teach the message of forgiveness through Christ Jesus.

    The woman in adultery,Jesus forgave her,He said go and sin no more.

    There are many people in my country worthy of death by your standards,yet I have seen many come to Jesus for forgiveness and there whole lives are changed.It is a beautiful sight to behold.

    In fact I knew a girl,her father abused her as a child,she ran away from home.She worked till in her 30's as a prostitute,most of her customers were very very wealthy business men and such.She hated herself inside,she did not love herself,she used drugs to try to escape her pains.She was a major cocaine and heroine user.One day she came to know Jesus,that Jesus died for her sins and loved her.That Jesus forgave her and God wanted her.How much do you think she loved God for this forgiveness,after all those years of shame?

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    Adultery - Islam has taken a firm and decisive stance against Zina (fornication or adultery). Allah, the Almighty, commands in explicit and unequivocal words: (And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way) (Al-Isra’ 17: 32).

    The Qu'ran states that it is one of the gravest of sins, to commit this sin has dire consequences to many individuals, their families and to their societies.It entails infidelity and erodes the trust and tranquility that are the foundations of a fulfilling family life; it dissipates one’s energies; it undermines peace at home; it corrodes the purity of one’s soul and hence destroys one’s faith; finally, it exposes the person to the wrath of Allah, thus resulting in eternal damnation.

    regarding the punishment of one who has committed adultery...........

    It is wrong to say that sin of adultery is expiated and forgiven only if the person were stoned to death or given hundred lashes. In fact, such punishments are extreme measures that can only be applied in extremely rare cases; they are exceptions that require stringent measures to execute. Moreover, they are simply not applicable in non-Muslim countries or societies where such laws are not enforced.

    You must therefore take it to your heart that Allah’s forgiveness is not at all conditional on submitting yourself to such punishments. You can surely expect Allah’s forgiveness if you are willing to take the necessary steps towards true and sincere repentance: Among these steps are: Feeling deep remorse for your sin, refraining from the sin as well as from all the leads and circumstances that led you to the same in the first place and resolving firmly in your mind never to do it again. Finally such a determination should be followed by whatever good works you can do to expiate for your sin.

    Allah says, “Verily good deeds wipe out bad deeds.” (Hud: 114). The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Allah does not wash out bad deeds through bad deeds; rather He washes bad deeds only through good deeds.”

    So repent sincerely and get yourself occupied with good works to the best of your ability. Once you have followed these steps your sin is blotted out. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “A person who has repented (sincerely) is like one who has never sinned.”"

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    Wife beating in Islam -

    "According to the Qur'an the relationship between the husband and wife should be based on mutual love and kindness. Allah says: "And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect." (Ar-Rum: 21)

    The Qur'an urges husbands to treat their wives with kindness. [In the event of a family dispute, the Qur'an exhorts the husband to treat his wife kindly and not to overlook her positive aspects]. Allah Almighty says: “Live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.” (An-Nisa’: 19)

    In Islam the wife must honor and obey her husband, he is the head of the house But the husband should also use his authority with respect and kindness towards his wife. If there arises any disagreement or dispute among them, then it should be resolved in a peaceful manner. Spouses should seek the counsel of their elders and other respectable family members and friends to batch up the rift and solve the differences.

    However, in some cases a husband may use some light disciplinary action in order to correct the moral infraction of his wife, but this is only applicable in extreme cases and it should be resorted to if one is sure it would improve the situation. However, if there is a fear that it might worsen the relationship or may wreak havoc on him or the family, then he should avoid it completely.

    The Qur'an is very clear on this issue. Almighty Allah says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them to guard. As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance); for Allah is most High and Great (above you all). If you fear a breach between them twain, appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family and the other from hers. If they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation; for Allah has full knowledge and is acquainted with all things." (An-Nisa': 34-35)

    It is important to read the section fully. One should not take part of the verse and use it to justify one's own misconduct. This verse neither permits violence nor condones it. It guides us to ways to handle delicate family situation with care and wisdom. The word "beating" is used in the verse, but it does not mean "physical abuse". The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) explained it "dharban ghayra mubarrih" which means "a light tap that leaves no mark". He further said that face must be avoided. Some other scholars are of the view that it is no more than a light touch

    the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to discourage his followers from taking even this measure. He never hit any female, and he used to say that the best of men are those who do not hit their wives. In one hadith he expressed his extreme repulsion from this behavior and said, "How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then embrace (sleep with) her?” (Al-Bukhari, English Translation, vol. 8, Hadith 68, pp. 42-43)

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    What exactly is Jihad

    The word Jihad stems from the Arabic root word J-H-D, which means "strive." Other words derived from this root include "effort," "labor," and "fatigue." Essentially Jihad is an effort to practice religion in the face of oppression and persecution. The effort may come in fighting the evil in your own heart, or in standing up to a dictator. Military effort is included as an option, but as a last resort and not "to spread Islam by the sword" as the stereotype would have one believe.

    The Qur'an describes Jihad as a system of checks and balances, as a way that Allah set up to "check one people by means of another." When one person or group transgresses their limits and violates the rights of others, Muslims have the right and the duty to "check" them and bring them back into line. There are several verses of the Qur'an that describe jihad in this manner. One example:

    "And did not Allah check one set of people by means of another,

    the earth would indeed be full of mischief;

    but Allah is full of Bounty to all the worlds"

    -Qur'an 2:251

    Islam never tolerates unprovoked aggression from its own side; Muslims are commanded in the Qur'an not to begin hostilities, embark on any act of aggression, violate the rights of others, or harm the innocent. Even hurting or destroying animals or trees is forbidden. War is waged only to defend the religious community against oppression and persecution, because the Qur'an says that "persecution is worse than slaughter" and "let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (Qur'an 2:190-193). Therefore, if non-Muslims are peaceful or indifferent to Islam, there is no justified reason to declare war on them.

    The Qur'an describes those people who are permitted to fight:

    "They are those who have been expelled from their homes

    in defiance of right, for no cause except that they say,

    'Our Lord is Allah.'

    Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another,

    there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches,

    synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of God is commemorated

    in abundant measure..."

    -Qur'an 22:40

    Note that the verse specifically commands the protection of all houses of worship. Finally, the Qur'an also says, "Let there be no compulsion in religion" (2:256). Forcing someone at the point of a sword to choose death or Islam is an idea that is foreign to Islam in spirit and in historical practice. There is absolutely no question of waging a "holy war" to "spread the faith" and compel people to embrace Islam; that would be an unholy war and the people's forced conversions would not be sincere.

    The reward for Jihad is entry to Jannah........ the only way this can be obtained is by following the commands of ALLAH... in a peaceful way.......

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    Micky Dee 7 years ago

    Thank you ladies very much. You've given great insight into your beliefs. Our Society (US) is not so keen, on the whole, to search out other ways of life. Our lives and spiritual growth is stunted by consumerism, television, sports, distractions. Our poor have little choices, often, but to join the military machine. Our spirituality is stunted more from this. I see our own countrymen attacking their own. A former Vet Marine attacks another Vet Marine. It's endless rhetoric that improves nothing and only harms and alienates.

    All forms of governments and ruling can be faulty if there is corruption. Unfortunately, money corrupts and that's what our society is founded on. For Americans and others tuning in right now yes, of course ours "could be the best". Unfortunately I know beyond any doubt that it is rife with corruption. The rich or people with more money can afford better doctors. More money buys better lawyers and a better "appeal for justice". The poor are constantly pushed to the curb.

    We all need improvement in our lives.

    Thank you christinecook, muslima61, and Freya Cesare for the discussion so far. Thanks for the beautiful pictures. Great hub. Thanks

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    Gous Ahmed 7 years ago from Muslim Nation

    Some of the comments up there are far too long for me to read right now, so i will leave out any comments in reply to them above.

    You have written a fantastic hub which informs people of what Islam is in truth. Many people have misconceptions of the religion, but in fact Islam is a very easy and simple religion to follow if you want to. If you have desires which are illegal and you sin, then Islam will be difficult until you come straight and fully depend on Allah. I have had many experiences in the past where i had my prayers answered, and i believe if we remember Allah always, then he remembers us always and helps us through tough times.

    Thank you for putting the message out there for people to access.

    You have done a great job and may Allah always look after you.

    (By the way, those pictures are the best i've seen of veils, is it possible to buy them from somewhere for my wiffe?)

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    haqiqat singh 7 years ago

    HELLO EVERY BODY,

    IN ANCIENT TERMINOLOGY WHETHER IT IS VEDAS,BIBLE,QURAN AND GURU GRANTH SAHIB ;IT IS CONCLUDED THAT WE HUMAN BEINGS ARE THE PRECIOUS GIFTS OF GOD AND WHY WE GET THE HUMAN BODY JUST TO KNOW GOD,BUT WHAT THE HUMAN ASSUMPTION IS BASED THAT RELIGION ,THEN CASTE COME INTO EXISTENCE TO ASSUME THE PERFECTNESS OF GOD AND THEN WE MADE CERTAIN RULES TO FOLLOW THAT RELIGION ,

    FRIENDS I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE VIEWS THAT EVERY HOLY BOOKS GIVES LESSON TO US THAT RELIGION IS NOT THE RULES BY WHICH WE KNOW THE GOD ,REALLY RELIGION IS THE REALISATION OF GOD IN THE HUMAN BODY WITH THE HELP OF PERFECT MASTER;AND WE SET THE RULES LIKE VEIL,SACRIFICES OF ANIMALS,JIHAD

    I AM ASKING TO ALL COMMUNITIES THAT IF HUMAN BEING ARE THE PRECIOUS CREATURES THEN WHAT IS THE NECESSARY TO REMAKE NEW PARAMETERS TO LIVE IN THE SOCIETY;LIKE JIHAD WHAT IS JIHAD TO ESTABLISH REVOLUTION OFCOURSE TO ESTABLISH REVOLUTION BUT TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT WHAT THE REVOLUTION IS MEANT ACTUALLY REVOLUTION LEAD TO SUGGEST TO REFORM THE THOUGHTS,TO REFORM THE RULES IF WE HAVE TO GIVE SACRIFICE THEN TO GIVE THE SACRIFICES OF ALL KAAM,KRODH,LOBH,MOH,AHENKAR.WHICH RUIN THE HUMAN BEING INVISIBLY AND INVINCIBLY;

    FRIENDS TODAYS ERA WHY THERE ARE SO MUCH RELIGIOUS HAPPENINGS OCCURED BECAUSE WE KNOW THE TIME COME WHEN THERE WILL BE A LOT TERROISM,COMMUNALISM.AND SECULARISM.BUT MY FRIENDS IF WE HAVE TO FACE THOSE PROBLEMS THEN WE HAVE TO GET RID OF ALL BOUNDATION WHICH REALLY MAKE THE HUMAN INCOMPLETE BY THOUGHTS,AND THIS CAN COME ONLY AND ONLY BY TAKING THE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE AND SEE THE GOD REALISE THE GOD IN OUR BODY AND THEN WE KNOW THE BASIC ASPECTS OF VEDAS,QURAN,BIBLE AND GURU GRANTH SAHIB AND THEN FINALLY WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM EVERY INHARMONIOUS DISEASE BUT BEFORE THAT WE HAVE TO SEE THE GOD;

    I (HAQIQAT SINGH)AM SAYING THAT I SEE GOD EVERYDAY WHEN I AM IN THE SADHNA ,BUT THIS COULD ALL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE HELP OF PERFECT MASTER SHRI ASHUTOSH JI MAHARAJJI;

    IF U HAVE ANY QUESTION RELATED TO SEE GOD IS POSSIBLE THEN PLEASE I WILL ANS U

    MY EMAIL ID IS ASHU.SINGH333@GMAIL.COM

    I WILL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER

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    de'Arab 7 years ago

    My understanding about this hijab wear it mainly to distaste men potential sexual interest in women.What the f**k!I guess hair is so erotic.Then when a man thinks a woman in a sexual manner it is her sin? Every culture is different so jus cause she ent wear no head gear doh mean that she is out to seduce any and every man out there.

    Every culture is different.My dear, what a woman or man wear, eat or lives does not state her/his true level of righteousness and devotion to God. You should know that only God truly Knows. Mind you your pics of hijab are sexual, ask any dude.

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    You shall not commit adultery

    After the battle of Qurayza, Mohammed claimed a beautiful woman named Rayhana, whose family had just been killed, and took her to his bed that same evening. Mohammed set an example of sharing married women among his followers after each battle, technically committing adultery every time. In fact, he received a convenient revelation that allowed him and his fellow Muslims to have sex with married captive women. [Sura 4.3] Married women are defined as those “whom your right hand possesses”. [1]

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor

    “You shall not bear false witness” [Exodus 20:16, Deut 5:20]

    “The Lord detests a lying tongue, a lying witness who testifies falsely” [Proverbs 6:17,19]

    There are so many examples where Mohammed condoned and encouraged lying, even to have an adversary killed. He produced a Sura 16.106 which allows a Muslim to lie if “threatened”.

    Islam has Doctrines of Taqiyya (lying for faith) and Kithman (lying by omission) which also condone lying.

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife

    Consider now the story of Zainab, the wife of Mohammed’s stepson.

    Kitab al Tabaqat, 8:101-102; Muhammed Ibn Yahya Hayyan narrated:

    “The Messenger of God came to Zaid Ibn Haritha’s house seeking him. Zainab Bint Hahsh stood up to meet him in a housedress… and the Prophet was filled with admiration for her.”

    In summary, Zainab talked to Zaid when he came home, and Zaid realised that Mohammed desired his wife so he divorced her. Mohammed conveniently received a revelation Sura 33.37 saying that Allah had married them in Heaven. Also came Sura 33.4 which absolved the practise of adoption in the Muslim world and got Mohammed “out of a jam”.

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife

    Consider now the story of Zainab, the wife of Mohammed’s stepson.

    Kitab al Tabaqat, 8:101-102; Muhammed Ibn Yahya Hayyan narrated:

    “The Messenger of God came to Zaid Ibn Haritha’s house seeking him. Zainab Bint Hahsh stood up to meet him in a housedress… and the Prophet was filled with admiration for her.”

    In summary, Zainab talked to Zaid when he came home, and Zaid realised that Mohammed desired his wife so he divorced her. Mohammed conveniently received a revelation Sura 33.37 saying that Allah had married them in Heaven. Also came Sura 33.4 which absolved the practise of adoption in the Muslim world and got Mohammed “out of a jam”.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    G Miah, thanks to stopping by and thank you for your sweet words. I’ll try my best, inshaallah. ^_^

    Yes, our comments is too long, BUT YOU SHOULD READ IT! Hahaha… just kidding.

    This hub still lacking of so many simple facts. Please, if you have something good to add, can you tell me?

    Well, about the veil, it easy to find in my country, but I don't know where to find in yours. Maybe you should ask Mr. Ruzgari himself. ^_^

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Micky Dee, thank you.

    Yes, I know what you mean, the effect of liberalism. The thing about liberalism is when capitalism taking over the life of all people and only considering the one who have power, and abandon people who didn’t have one. It is my friend, problems of the world, and not just your country, and trust me, here in Indonesia, (even not as open as the life in western world,) so many people become western minded, caused the life here seem almost become similar with what you have there. Gladly many of us still being hold by strong will to keep and put our real identity in front of everything, to limited the effect.

    I thought the world today driven to the same path, to the destruction of morality and mentality. When money became everything, and compassionate limited by selfishness, the real meaning of life loss under so many worldly spectacular things, until one day, the life is end, and you realize you have nothing but yourself.

    But who is yourself? Did you know? Without education, wealth, health and the love one, what is left in you?

    The answer lies, of course, within ourselves. I just hope everyone of us can have enough awareness to asking the question before it’s too late for us to change ourselves and our community, so the world will start become great community again (if there it is ever existed) where love and compassionate become drive of live, and differences become flowers in life, not become the reason of dispute. Did I ask too much? ?

    Anyway, thank you for stopping by. By The way, don’t you feel tired riding that bike everywhere? ^_^

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Muslima 61, Thank you, Sister, for the comments. You know how much I love you. Hahaha! ^o~. jazakillah khairan.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Christine, About Rayhana:

    Rayh?na bint Zayd ibn ?Amr (Arabic: ?????? ??? ??? ?? ?????) was a Jewish woman from the Banu Qurayza tribe. Her relationship with Muhammad is disputed.

    Rayhana was originally a member of the Banu Nadir tribe who married a man from the Banu Qurayza.

    According to Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad took her as a maiden and offered her to become his wife if she accepted Islam, but she refused. Even though Rayhana is said to have later converted to Islam, she died as Muhammad's chattel. According to Marco Schöller, Rayhana either became the Prophet's concubine or, was married to him and later divorced.

    Ibn Sa'd writes and quotes Waqidi that Rayhana herself has said that she was manumitted and married by Muhammad. According to Al-Halabi, Muhammad married and appointed dowry for her. It is further narrated that, upon marriage, she refused to take the hijab, causing a rift between her and Muhammad. The couple later reconciled. She died shortly after Muhammad's hajj and was buried in Jannat al-Baqi cemetery. Ibn Hajar quotes a description of house Muhammad allotted to Rayhana after their marriage from Muhammad Ibn al-Hassam's History of Medina.

    In another version, Hafiz Ibn Minda writes that Muhammad set Rayhana free, and she went back to live with her own people. This version is also supported as the most likely by 19th-century Muslim scholar, Shibli Nomani.

    Not much is known about Rayhana; she died a year before Muhammad.

    So many version. Nothing can be proven as the right one. Where you got yours?

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    The thing about hadidth, Christine, it can't able to believe until it is proven as not the only hadidth who told the same exact story and the one who had narated the story is not one person only. Don't you know that hadidth written several hundred years after Muhammad passed away, and not right the way in the time when Muhammad still alive. The story about him passed orally, until finally there is too many weird hadidth came out and the need to written it down become really demanded.

    Check here in wikipedia, a history of hadidth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hadith

    I chose wikipedia because it is stay in neutral zone.

    Muslim Used Al Qur'an as first priority. Hadidth and sunnah only to seek explanation from what it had been written inside Al Qur'an, but this is too have to do really carefully.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hello, Christine. ^_^ Please, do not worry about feeling offended or anything. We make a discussion here, to gain more knowledge about each other differences. And I believe both of us really too sweet person to start having dispute against each other. Right? (I guess little self flattering will never hurt. :D )

    I think, before I try to explain more about concept of punishment in Islam (mostly about adultery), it is better if I explaining to you first about the concept of life in Islam.

    Al Qur’an taught Muslim this life is temporary. The ultimate life we should celebrate not this one, because this one is only place where human being put into several trial, to see where the person should be placed at last; paradise or hell, where the eternity finally will be ours. The analogy (but in my opinion only) is like this: Life is and exam, paradise is your reward, and God is your teacher and also your judge. The topic of the exam is: obedient to Allah. The dictate is Al Qur’an. Action is our pencil and pen, everyday life is our paper, knowledge and awareness is our eraser and sharpener, and the raw material of the exam are lies inside ourselves, which are:

    1. Human basic need

    2. Human mind

    3. Human free will

    4. Human Diversity, and

    5. Satan whisperer.

    Every problem that human have to face in daily life is a question. Will that person able to using all of his raw material in proper way like Al Qur’an taught human, to show his obedient to Allah will become the key to be success in passed the exam.

    Inside Al Qur’an, there is way of life that God’s want us to follow. One of it is to keep our dignity as human, to not act like animal (which only following instinct to survive in every need) but to manage and to conquer it, and finally to win over it. To not let our self driven by need only, but using our mind and pride to stand in the earth saying: we are indeed better than animal.

    Lesson from Al Qur’an are not easy to obey, because our raw material always drive us to different way. Need work extra hard to polish it, until become great and fine material. Al Qur’an taught human how to do that, but it is truly hard to obey without strong determination. Human need more resistant from himself, and inner resistant will only able to form if the result of every ill conduct that human ever done will show right the way after act being done. This is what law and punishment about; to become the builder of the resistant inside every human act. And what law without punishment to those who dare breaking it?

    The punishment in Islam is hard. Stone to death, lashes, confine until death come, named it, scary, right? But will the punishment useful to prevent crime if it is not terrifying to face? How many criminal whom after spent time in jail, still really happy to coming back again inside the jail without any regrets? Can you make a count? So, in this case, is jail really useful? The main goal of punishment is to become lesson for society to not go near crime, to prevent crime to be happening. Muslim not allowed to fall under mercy on one person, to put all society in danger, because if it is about breaking the law, the sin no longer personal, but have big impact in society. The key to skip on it is simple, by not doing crime at all!

    But like every law in every country, every punishment only can applied after it had been proven without doubt in fair trial as really deserve to be punished. The tool of the law, people who run trial is have to select carefully. There are strict characteristics to follow to choose the tool of the law, such as: judge, lawyer, prosecutor or witness. How to solve all cases already guide by Al Qur’an. If human follow it in real honest, wise and strict to this, there will be no problems. But, unfortunately, that is not what had happened today. In fact, the slid of applying Islamic law already happened as soon as after the death of Muhammad, SAW, when people start to had disputed about who would become next leader. Since that time people started to made their own translation into meaning of Al Qur’an and how it is should be applied, based on their conceited mind and wrong pride. I’m not proud of it, and if you read my early hubs, you will see how I written my disagreement in there. And this, my Friend, is the reason why then you able to the harsh and unfair treatment by law in Islamic country. It is no longer product of Al Qur’an, it is product of human mind combined with tradition and culture heritages, which using Islamic Law as it mask.

    I don’t like it, just like you. If you read my comments above, I put several proves that many muslim scholar too already showed their disagreement to this, but it is a country we have to face, not small community, and they have their right to control their own community. The sin is in them because they are bad leader of community and bad example of Muslim, but I wish we can do more to fix it. To avoid this, just don’t enter this country. People can still become Muslim without have to live under Muslim Country law. The law is in our self and as long as one really put real determination on following Al Qur’an, that person do not need authority to built resistant inside himself.

    If this Islamic country authority had done wrong, I’m agree that they might and possible to do that. But if then the law from Qur’an is the one people blame on, I’m not agree. It is the people who done wrong, not the religion. Take a look inside Christian history, isn’t there are so many chaos already written in there? What the different between this and Muslim history today? Now, western world divided religion with knowledge and government. You might feel you live in peace, but are you really?

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Back to adultery. Sex is natural need. Animal will do it everywhere and every time, also with anyone it wanted it to do. But for human it is not allowed, because sex is sacred. A union of body inside spell of love under bless of God, to give us everything, relaxed mind, feeling of being love and sometimes, will caused the people who done it bless with a child. A sacred thing should bless in sacred way, inside marriage!

    When people doing adultery, these people humiliated themselves by treating Allah’s bless in illegal way. What should be bless, turn into desire only, and ill desire will brought nothing than another sin. And if it is allowed, it will spread and become disease in community, which will cause another disease. You know better than me. That is why it is not only sin, but also classified as crime.

    But like me and Muslima61 already mentioned above, the only way to save you from punishment is by repent. Repent not only feel sorry and promise to not do it anymore, but to put real heart and determination to move away from this habit forever. Repent is the only way, but it should do before you had been caught by law, or it will be too late. Because again, if it is about breaking the law, the sin no longer personal, but have big impact in society, that is why law should be applied. If you still caught by law even after you repentant, all you need to do is to bring you witness to testify that you are really already repentant, and then you will be free.

    Now, if miracle happen, Canada become Muslim community and Islamic law will be applying in there, what will happen? Tell them all to repent and it will be all right. But again, it have to be real repent with all determination to embrace what Allah taught human inside Al Qur’an. And then all people can go together to make sure the authority will never follow the mistake that many Islamic country did, mixing Islam with culture and caused shamed in the face of community.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Still many to answer, I'm sorry, I wish I have more time. I will come back later with the answer. ^_^

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Christine, Here I put for you the explaination about Zainab story:

    Abdul Hameed Siddique states in his book The Life of Muhammad PBUH:

    " So far as the fanciful stories and calumnies of the Orientalists are concerned, we can only say that these are so absurd that any one having even a grain of sense in him would unhesitatingly reject them as mere fabrications. William Muir and so may others like him state that the Prophet, having seen Zaynab by change through a half-open door, was fascinated by her beauty, and that Zayd having come to know of the leanings of his master, divorced her and then she was marred ti Muhammad. There is absolutely no truth in these stories which have been fabricated in this connection."

    (Source: The Life of Muhammad, by Abdul Hameed Siddique, Islamic Publications LTD, p. 214)

    2.Sirat- Un-Nabi by Allama Shibli Nu'Mani:

    " Tabari has it that once the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) visited the house of Zaid. Zaid was not at home, and Zainab was dressing herself. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw her doing that, and turned back saying : " Glory to Allah, Most High and glory to him who turns the hearts". Zaid came to know of it. He came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, " I may divorce Zainab if you have come to like her." I have quoted that dirty narration with a pricking of conscience. But to report a blasphemy is not to commit a blasphemy. This is the single report that forms the mainstay of authority for the Christain historians. But the poor fellows do not know what value this narration holds when critically viewed in the light of the principles set by the traditionalists. Tabari, the historian has taken this story from Waqidi, the well-known liar and fabricator. He coined such fictions to provide some sort of sanction for the licentiousness of the 'Abbasid caliphs."

    (Source: Sirat-Un-Nabi, by Allama Shibli Nu'Mani, rendered into English by M. Tayyib Bahksh Budayuni, Kazi Publications Lahore, Vol. II, p. 128-129)

    Shabir Ally also once stated:

    Q. Is it true that the prophet (pbuh) had fallen in love with Zainab due to her beauty?

    A. If that were true it would not detract from the veracity of the prophet. Muslims admit that he was a human being. It is not unnatural for a man to fall in love. The fact that he is a prophet does not rob him of his natural human emotions. In fact it is true that he loved his wives.

    However, it is not true that he fell in love with Zainab in the way that is claimed by some critics. They say that once the prophet visited Zaid, the husband of Zainab. Zaid was out at the time, and Zainab was combing her hair. The prophet was struck by her beauty and immediately left saying something to the effect that God changes the hearts of people. When Zaid learnt about this incident he offered the prophet that he would divorce Zainab in order that the prophet may marry her. Accordingly, he divorced her and the prophet married her.

    Several things point to the lack of truth in this story. First, it is unlikely that the prophet (pbuh) was suddenly struck by Zainab's beauty. Zainab was his cousin. He had known her since childhood. Why would she suddenly appear striking after she was already married to another?

    Second, the prophet had arranged for her to get married to Zaid. If there was to be an attraction why did the prophet (pbuh) not encourage her to marry none but himself?

    Third, the fact of the matter was that Zaid's marriage proved to be an unhappy one. Zaid was a former slave and as such was held in low esteem in the eyes of Zainab. He mentioned to the prophet that he intended to divorce his wife. But the prophet advised him to keep his wife and avoid divorce.

    In the meantime, Zaid intended to divorce his wife, Allah intended to marry her to the prophet. Eventually Zaid could maintain his marriage no longer. He divorced Zainab and Allah declared in his Glorious Book that he has wedded her to the prophet after the proper waiting period was over.

    This marriage served more than one purpose. First, the prophet was responsible for arranging Zainab's marriage to Zaid. In a sense, then, he was also indirectly responsible for the unhappiness she felt in her marriage. Her marriage to the prophet now provided her the honour she felt she deserved, and exonerated the prophet.

    Second, Zaid had been adopted as the prophet's son. Eventually, however, the Qur'an prohibited the practice of changing the parental identity of adopted persons. Zaid, then, was to no longer be called "son of Muhammad" but rather "a close friend." The prophet's marriage to the divorced wife of Zaid was a practical demonstration that the adopted relationship was not equal to a real blood-relationship. A man cannot marry the divorced wife of his real son but he can marry the divorced wife of his adopted son.

    The abolishment of the age-old practice was a positive improvement for the adopted persons. People outside of Islam still continue this practice for their own benefit. They adopt children and rob them of their real identify, making them believe they are real children of the household in which they grow up. When such children realize the truth they suffer much disappointment and grief. The adoptive process continues for the selfish gain of the adoptive parents.

    But is it not true that children sometimes need adoptive parents? Yes. But they also need to preserve their real identify. This is what Islam ensures. It is the responsibility of the entire community to help children in need. They should be taken in and nurtured but not confused with one's own children.

    The prophet's marriage to Zainab was a bold measure to forever engrave in the minds of his followers that as much as people would resist change, some changes are worth the effort. Adoptive children should no longer be robbed of their real identities.

    Sheikh Hammudah Abdallati stated:

    Some of the Prophet's marriages were for legislative reasons and to abolish certain corrupt traditions. Such was his marriage to Zaynab, divorcee of the freed slave Zayd. Before Islam, the Arabs did not allow divorcees to remarry. Zayd was adopted by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and called his son as was the custom among the Arabs before Islam. But Islam abrogated this custom and disapproved of its practice. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was the first man to express this disapproval in a practical way. So he married the divorcee of his "adopted" son to show that adoption does not really make the adopted child a real son of the adopting father and also to show that marriage is lawful for divorcees. Incidentally, this very Zaynab was Muhammad's cousin, and had been offered to him in marriage before she married Zayd. He refused her then, but after she was divorced he accepted her for the two legislative purposes: the lawful marriage of divorcees and the real status of adopted children. The story of this Zaynab has been associated in some minds with ridiculous fabrications regarding the moral integrity of Muhammad.

    (see Qur'an, 33: 36, 37, 40). (Source: Islam in Focus, p.177-179 by Hammudah Abdallati)

    All sources can be found at :

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/umar/zaynab_...

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Here my explanation about Tabari in more detail:

    Tareekh at-Tabari was a voluminous text compiled by Imam Ibn Jarir at-Tabari (may Allah be pleased with him). Imam at-Tabari followed the classic methodology of early Islamic historians, a process which differed greatly from modern day historical writers. Islamic historians would simply compile all the known narrations about a certain event, regardless of how authentic or reliable each of those narrations were. They would copy the Isnads (chains of transmitters) into their books, in order that the Muhaditheen (scholars of Hadith) could determine which narration was Sahih/Hasan (authentic/good) and which was Dhaeef (weak) or even Mawdoo (fabricated). In other words, the historians compiled the narrations, and the Muhaditheen authenticated them.

    Therefore, based on the above, we find that Tareekh at-Tabari is simply a collection of narrations on certain events; some of these narrations are accurate, whereas others are not. The authenticity of each narration depends on the Isnad (chain of transmitters): if the narration was transmitted by reliable narrators, then it would be accepted as valid, but if it was transmitted by unreliable people, then the narration was to be disregarded. Imam at-Tabari clearly says in the introduction of his book that the narrations found in his book are only as good as the people who narrate them. If the compiler of the book does not view all of the narrations as authentic, then it is indeed absurd for to assume that we accept each and every single narration in Tareekh at-Tabari. Tabari says in a disclaimer in the introduction of his book:

    I shall likewise mention those (narrators) who came after them, giving additional information about them. I do this so that it can be clarified whose transmission (of traditions) is praised and whose information is transmitted, whose transmission is to be rejected and whose transmission is to be disregarded…The reader should know that with respect to all I have mentioned and made it a condition to set down in this book of mine, I rely upon traditions and reports which have been transmitted and which I attribute to their transmitters. I rely only very rarely upon (my own) rationality and internal thought processes. For no knowledge of the history of men of the past and of recent men and events is attainable by those who were not able to observe them and did not live in their time, except through information and transmission produced by informants and transmitters. This knowledge cannot be brought out by reason or produced by internal thought processes. This book of mine may contain some information mentioned by me on the authority of certain men of the past, which the reader may disapprove of and the listener may find detestable, because he can find nothing sound and no real meaning in it. In such cases, he should know that it is not my fault that such information comes to him, but the fault of someone who transmitted it to me. I have merely reported it as it was reported to me.

    (Tareekh at-Tabari, Vol.1, Introduction)

    Imam at-Tabari’s book was simply an attempt to place Hadiths into a chronological order so that they would read out like a historical narrative; therefore, Tabari–like Ibn Ishaq–did a wonderful job of creating one of the first books which placed Hadiths in a chronological order. However, Imam at-Tabari only placed them in the right order, but he did not authenticate them, nor did he claim that. It should be known that to the Sunnis, the only two books of Hadith which are considered completely authentic are the Sahihayn (Bukhari and Muslim). After these two books, there are four other books which are considered reliable, but which contain some authentic and some unauthentic Hadiths. As for Tareekh at-Tabari, it is considered less reliable than any of these six books of Hadith!

    As for the narration in Tareekh at-Tabari that you had mentioned, it is undoubtedly unauthentic.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hello, De’Arab, welcome to my Hub. ^_^. Thank you for your comments.

    Yes, those pics are beautiful, right? I put there to show others, ever under cover, women can still be beautiful, because beauty is beyond all cover, it is inside the women herself, so why don’t start to used polite dress so you can start to look decent? But If you ever meet real Niqaf lady, De’Arab, you will never found even only one of them will be look like that in the street, because their beauty will be show to their husband only.

    “Then when a man thinks a woman in a sexual manner it is her sin?”

    I have the same question too long time ago,

    “Why if man is the one who have problems, then It is me who have to limiting myself?”

    But then I realized the answer will be the same with this question:

    “Why if it is thieves and robbers who are the bad guys, it is my house that have to put bar on it window and It seem like I’m become the one who locked inside jail?” (in Indonesia it is common to put bar on the windows to avoid it become a way for thieves and robbers to enter)

    The answer is simple : For protection.

    “I’m not able to control what people around think about me, but unless I can prevent them to think something dirty”

    So, even it caused others will feel distate or anything else in seeing our veil and my sisters niqaf, as long as our veil can reach the goal, which is to protecting us, we will keep using it. ^_^

    Have a nice day.

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Freya

    You are so kind to take so much time answering all these thoughts and questions,that roam through my mind.

    Jesus is the fulfillment of the law,that obviously no man ,even Mohammad could obey.How can one be subject to rules that even your prophet could not do. Men who put burdens on the backs of people that even they cannot carry.We all have the law Moses passed down,the law was sent that we would know what sin is,Jesus was sent to fulfill the requirements of law,that no one can obey in the flesh. So with our spirit we worship God,but our flesh is weak,does this mean we continue to sin,no,but if we do,we have forgiveness because of Jesus death on the cross,who fulfilled the requirements of the law on our behalf.

    How unfair to punish and evenly wrongly punish at the hand of mere men,Who of us are without sin.So if I choose to obey only the law then I am judge by that law,then it is the law that redeems you not God. So this cannot be true

    I am thankful that Christ came to fulfill the law,not so I can sin but that I have forgiveness.So as Christians we strive to also not live in sin,and it is wrong if we as Christians sin,sometimes we may not realize our sin right away,but we can confess to God who will forgive us,and say sorry to those we offended.

    This is the trinity.

    God who is all powerful and created all things,manifested in Mary through the Holy Spirit,Jesus,born of the flesh,Jesus lived a perfect life,though He suffered as we do,He willingly stayed upon that cross,Oh how deep is Gods love for us.

    So God manifested Him to us to fulfill the law that we ourselves could not do.Jesus when He returned to be with God The Father,said He had to go so that one would come who would live in us the Helper,the Spirit of truth,or the Holy Spirit. The Holy spirit teaches us in our spirit the truth of God. So we are sealed with His spirit.

    So you see we have Father,Jesus his son and the holy Spirit.

    All are from God,from one God, parts of His own character,so we are free from the law of the flesh through Jesus Christ,we are no longer condemned by God,(but that does not mean you just can sin).We are sealed by the Holy spirit.

    Peace to you Freya

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hello again, Christine, I’m not yet finished my explanation about all you asked. Due lack of time and connection here in my place, caused delay in my answer, please forgive me.

    Al Qur’an Surrah 16 : 106 :

    “Whoever disbelieves in God after [having affirmed] his faith — except for him who is compelled, to pronounce [a statement of] unbelief and so pronounces it, while his heart is at rest in faith (man, ‘whoever’, is [either] a subject or a conditional, and so the predicate [of this subject], or the response [to this conditional], is [an implied] lahum wa‘?dun shad?d, ‘there is for them a severe threat [of chastisement]’; this is indicated by [the statement that follows]) — but he who opens up his breast to unbelief, that is, [he who] opens it up and expands it [with unbelief], meaning that his soul is content with it, upon such shall be wrath from God, and there is a great chastisement for them.”

    Said Ibn 'Abbas: “This verse was revealed about 'Ammar ibn Yasir. The idolaters had taken him away along with his father Yasir, his mother Sumayyah, Suhayb [al-Rumi], Bilal [ibn Rabah], Khabbab [ibn al-Aratt] and Salim [the client of Hudhayfah] and tortured them. As for Sumayyah, she was tied up between two camels and stabbed with a spear in her female organ. She was told: 'You embraced Islam for the men', and was then killed. Her husband Yasir was also killed. They were the first two persons who were killed in Islam. As for 'Ammar, he was coerced to let them hear what they wanted to hear. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, was told that 'Ammar has renounced faith, but he said: 'Never, 'Ammar is filled with faith from his head to his toes; faith is admixed with his flesh and blood!' 'Ammar then went to see the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, crying. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, wiped his tears with his own hand and said: 'if they return to you, let them hear again what you told them'. Then, Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Mujahid said: “This verse was revealed about some Meccans who accepted faith. The Muslims of Medina wrote to them urging them to migrate and told them that they did not consider them part of them unless they migrated. And so they left Mecca intending to migrate to Medina. The Quraysh caught up with them on the way and coerced them to renounce their faith. It is about them that this verse was revealed”.

    If you standing in front of 'Ammar ibn Yasir at the moment when the tortured happening, Christine, can you tell him directly that he is wrong? Where is your love and compassionate heart gone? Please, you should see the context of incident before you make resume on Al Qur’an. Allah knew best.

    It is not enough to make conclusion from one ayyah only. In explaining about something, usually Al Qur’an will mention it three times (or more) in different ayyah and surrah to stressed the meaning. You should look for correlation of this ayyah with another ayyah, look further on the history, and if available, start to seek the explanation in sunnah and hadidth, but only the shahih one.

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    Amiruddin Alauddin 7 years ago

    oDear Christine and you too Freya:

    I have been asked to visit this corner of the Internet and to read your comments as well as your interpretation about Islam. Of course I admire your passion about Christianity and you people obviously studied in-depth about Islam.

    First of all I would like to point it out that the two of you (what are you: Catholics, Protestant, Lutheran, Mormon...?) is dishing out about the rulings in Islam concerning adultery is slightly way off, hopefully not on purpose. For those couple who are unmarried, they will receive the 100 stokes of the cane but you did folks probably forget to mention that married couples will receive the death penalty (stoning). But these punishments are NOT that easily implemented at our own whims because first of all there must be 4 witnesses to the crime committed and these witnesses MUST be people having unquestionable virtues. If just one of them can be pointed out and challenge for instance he/she had on one occasion had cheated somebody, you know what will happen? Those accuse having committed adultery will be release and walk scotch-free from justice on Earth. But they shall be punish in the After Life by God if they are guilty. The same rulings applied to those found stealing and under the Islamic law, their hand will be cut off. But even when we have at least 4 witnesses, if one of them is "questionable", the rascal will walk away free. Islam is not a barbaric religion, not at all.

    Forgive me if I find the concept of God, son and the Holy Ghost that you spoke of bring a smile on my naughty face. If God really has a son; who is the mother to that child and at which Church or the priest that married them?

    I find it most amusing when I read somewhere above being said that a Mosque is the place where Muslim doing prayer and learn about religion, not place to discuss politics. Whose the fruitcake who gave you this info? The Mosque is not just also a place to discuss about politics, my friends, but a place where we Muslims sometime gathers to discuss about business, investment and other worldly affairs.

    Yes, you are correct (well research) when you said that the Imam Mahdi name is Muhammad, his father is Abdullah and he is a decedent of Muhammad. But probably you forgot to mentioned that according to the Prophecy, Imam Mahdi is NOT an Arab in his looks but he have Muhammad characteristics. You forgot to mention also the fact that whoever claims to be the Al-Mahdi, he has alongside him Isa (aka Jesus). Before any scoundrel wants to claim that he is Al-Mahdi and expect me to follow him, I will first issue a challenge. All I ask for is Isa (aka Jesus) to follow me and I will take him to the nearest hospital mortuary. I will ask him to bring life back to the dead. If he can do it, then he is Isa (aka Jesus) and Al-Mahdi is the real deal. If Isa (aka Jesus) can't bring back the dead, I will gun the impostor down.

    When I have the time, I will be visiting this site because I still have much more to say. But I will never say to the two of you: "embrace Islam or I will cut off your head" because it will be a major sin to me. You have to embrace Islam on your own free will and nothing having to do with me.

    Yes Christine & you too Freya: we are in our Final Days before Armageddon and the field of Meggido. I am a Muslim and let's just hope that I am not your Anti-Christ. LOL!

    Thanks and have a nice day, buddies :-)

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Mary was the mother of Jesus...as you well know..LOL and we all know the story as I am sure you do to !!

    Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead.

    Freya,

    thank you for your answers, I do not know you in person,but I see you are so nice.I am impatient sometimes. I apologize. I understand your zeal as you do mine. I love learning and want to learn.

    Have you ever had miracles happen in your life from Allah?

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Assalammu alaikum, Sir. Thank you for visiting me.

    How wonderful this corner of internet site, because with only one click, you already at my Hub’s Door. I wish real life can be that easy so I can only make one click and I’m already pop up at everywhere I want.

    So, you do business meeting on Mosque? Hmmm…. We surely go to different Mosque in different country. Well, I deleted that one subject on my list. Thank you, Sir, to informed me this.

    In here I wrote my answers to several questions I ever heard around Hub Pages. I don’t think mentioning all story on Imam Mahdi can be called as simple fact. It should write on different Hub, but I’m not sure I can able to write it because I lack of knowledge on it.

    I made a wish for you to check whether my answers is accurate or not, but why you stressed on that stones to death punishment again? Please do not terrifying Christine. There is a story about Stones to death in adultery cases, but I never found one ayyah that stressed this. 100 lashes and confine to death, that’s it. I knew several Islamic Country practicing stones to death, but I don’t think it is lesson from Al Qur’an, but only heritage from culture. :(

    Thank you, Sir, very much.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Christine, Where Muhammad cannot obey the words of God?

    I did explained to you all of your question. Please read carefully.

    I took time to think, why it is hard for you to understand the concept of Islamic law? And then I realized, maybe I made wrong way in translated what you want to know. So let’s reverse the place.

    Jesus is great person. In your belief, he is died for you sin. My question is this:

    Why after you knew your God died for you to paid all of your sin, you still doing sin?

    7 great sin in the bible: Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Anger, Greed, and Sloth.

    Take a look around you, Christine, can’t you see what I see? Don’t you feel Jesus will be so humiliated after what he sacrificed fo all Christians, many of Christians still drown in sin? Whose to be blame, Jesus who couldn’t able to taught how to become great Christian, or the followers of Christian who seem always failed to skipped on sin? And what those sins give your community? I can make a list, start with Gonorhea!

    Now, can’t you tell me why, with all compassionate and mercy that Jesus already taught Christian, your history turned out full with blood? Slavery, witch hunt, scientist captured, etc? Should I look further?

    Whose fault is that? God? or human who couldn’t able following God’s rule? Can you see my point? It is not the religion, but it is people of the religion. My community not showed you good example, but so did your community. Why then Allah and Muhammad have to take the blame?

    Christine, Muhammad, SAW is human. Flesh and blood. Inside him, with all his good quality, there, still a place of human heart. But you must remember, we didn’t live in His time and all we knew about him is through somebody narration. What we heard have to sorting carefully. The only thing Muslim able to trust without doubt is Al Qur’an because it is the only scripture that survive in its original form among all scriptures. What we knew about Allah, Muhammad, prophets and all the world and it’s law is came from it. Muslim believe on it and take it in our heart. We never want you and all Christian believe on what we believe, but only want you all to understand, there is so many misconceptions you have and create along of our way as citizen of the world, which already caused so many misery in both side.

    Beside, Muhammad, SAW only a messenger. His job only to passed Allah’s messages to human. He doesn’t have to pay for human sins.

    I realized it is will be hard for you to understand our faith on Allah, like it is hard for me to understand your believe on trinity. But unless I hope you understand, Al Qur’an taught Muslim to bring peace, stability and sinless life. But human mind indeed hard to control.

    About Jihad, I will try to make a hub about it, if Allah bless me with it, and yes, Christine, I did found my miracle, and feel really grateful for that. :)

    Have a nice day. I found you a nice lady too, and that's why I took an effort to answer you. But discussion is always good to open our mind to bigger world, and around it, so anytime, Christine, ask me if you want to know, I will try my best to answer. ^_^

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Jesus is not humiliated. He died so we have forgiveness for our sins,He understood that our flesh was weak.

    I do understand what you say about Islam.I see what they are trying to do.It does not work,Muslims are sinful too. But I do understand that they want a sinless world.They do it for what they believe are the right reasons.I am going to my mothers today it is a long drive,3 hours there and back.I will come back to this later.I do appreciate what you say and that you take the time to answer so in depth Freya.Yo are a blessing to me!Peace Be With You Freya.

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    Karen Russell 7 years ago

    THANK YOU FOR A VERY INTERESTING JOURNEY FROM EVERYONE...

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    Freya

    thank you for all your answers.I understand what you are saying.If only people would obey what is right.The monks brought their bodies into submission,as Christians we are to bring our minds,hearts and bodies into submission.So I see we both want people to submit to God,and obey,do what is right,then there would be peace.

    On another note Freya,a personal note,are you going to marry soon,or will you stay single?Are you in school?

    You know I am married,I have 5 children,Sarah,Rachel,Rebecca,Ruth-Anne and Joshua. I love my children.I also have four grand children,Victoria,Kaitlyn,Emma and Jacob.

    What about your family,your brothers or sisters?Do you have any?

    If this is too personal just say so,I will not be offended.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hallo Karen. Thank you for reading this. By the way, I still couldn't able to found your group at FB. :(

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hallo, Christine. Thanks. Yes, that exactly what I tried to say. :)

    5 children and 4 grandchildren? You're blessed! I hope I can be that lucky someday. About who I really am, I sent an email to introduce myself. :)

    Have a nice day and take care.

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    christinecook 7 years ago

    that is something in our faith we too struggle with,sinful nature..great hubs Freya

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Yes, sinful is human nature. Thank you, Christine. ^_^

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    ASALAM ALAIKUM dear sis, you are having fun here ;), i would like to point out that HIJAB is not just the covering of the hair, it encompasses the whole of our appearance to the outside world, it is a loose covering .. that not only covers out hair but also covers our bodies except for the face and hands...... it is to safeguard our modesty, i wear, thousands upon thousands of women wear hijab, not because their husband demands.... No it is a requirement of Allah.. it shows the world that we belong to Islam... that all muslim show us respect ... this happens it is not a fallacy. There are also requirements made of the men. Not so well known, perhaps because the media are not as interested, A muslim brother must lower his gaze also... now that would not make good media reading would it lol

    love you to sis JazakAllah khairan.

    @ brother amiruddin... yes you are correct it is not easy to implement these punishments, and i know our sister Ira first language is not English so this can pose somewhat of a problem. I also know through experience as a revert that some of the sites that one can visit on the internet regarding Islam do not all contain authentic material... one does need to be careful when gathering material from some of these sites also as some are extremely Islamaphobic, or give bad translations of the Qu'ran and Hadiths which in turn give Islam a bad reputation...

    @ sister Ira ... if you would like me to check any sites you are using i will happily for you... just let me know sis :) inshallah x x

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hmmm.... did I do something wrong, Sis Fatma and Mir????????? :(

    Please check it for me? Because I don' t want to spread wrong messages.

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    i will read all your post thoroughly shortly dear sister... it may be the interpretation. But to be honest there are many questions here i will check tonight for you and post my reply.Do not worry dear sister.... your intention is good Allah knows this ...... JazakAllah khairan

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Thank you, Sis. Please! Please! Please, do that!

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    STONING TO DEATH for Adultery, from the Qu'ran... Please read..

    The fact that the heinous concept of 'stoning to death' is being debated in the 21st century places a mark on Islam and gives the anti-Islam lobby something to crow about.

    It is therefore high time to look at the Quranic injunctions about Zina and to understand what has been enjoined in the faith, as distinct from the customary practice in society.

    Does this barbaric practice find any mention in the Quran? And if not, can one claim that it is an Islamic practice? Does it have anything to do with Islam as it was revealed to the Prophet? From my reading of the Quran, I maintain that Islam does not sanction the punishment of stoning to death for adultery. I say 'from my reading' by design, because I believe that the verses of the Quran are there for all to read and understand.

    We must not forget that the Quran was revealed for common understanding - 'AlDin-I-Yasrin', meaning 'Din is Easy' - to guide the ordinary woman and man and not for highly esoteric interpretations. The description of the human being's nearness to Allah is: 'He is closer to you than your 'shehrug' (jugular vein)'. Therefore I, an ordinary human being and a Muslim woman, claim with confidence that my religion, my Prophet, my Shariah does not sanction such barbarity.

    But let us look at the Quran and consider the Ayats which mention the word Zina. The word is used both for men and women. There are two Surahs in which the concept is discussed by use of the word Zina. The first is Surah 17, Al Isra or Bani Israil, verse 32 - primarily about the Ascension of the Prophet but also purity in sexual relations and probity in all dealings:

    Nor come nigh to adultery

    For it is a shameful (deed)

    And an evil, opening the road

    (To other evils)

    The second reference is in Surah 24 Al Nur, verse 2, and it speaks of the regulation of sexual behavior and reprobation of false slander against women:

    The woman and the man

    Guilty of fornication

    Flog each of them

    With a hundred stripes

    And let a party of believers

    Witness their punishment

    It is this verse which has been subject of many interpretations although the words of the Quran could not have been clearer. It states that the punishment applies equally to men and women, and second that it comprises 100 stripes - not a single more or less. I, for one, cannot read anything in this verse which can be understood as stoning to death.

    So, where did this interpretation come from and how much credence does it deserve? According to some authoritative sources this particular passage refers 'only' to fornication (not adultery) for which the punishment is 100 stripes. For adultery the punishment (according to one account of the Sunnah [practice] of the Prophet) is stoning to death.

    According to another account this was the old Jewish punishment. When a Jew once asked the Prophet what he should do in case of Zina, the Prophet is supposed to have said 'follow your practice'. In such a short space there are already two interpretations. For me, therefore, it is the word of the Quran that needs to be adhered to, above and beyond all interpretations.

    Besides, I cannot accept this attribution to the Prophet because it goes against his entire personal attributes and interpersonal relationships. It is also inconsistent with the sensitivity of the Quran in dealing with matters pertaining to human beings in general and women in particular.

    Let us again, consider the facts as explained in the Quran. The undesirability of adultery enjoins that it should be punished. The punishment should serve as a deterrent. 100 stripes are a severe punishment and when publicly meted out to men and women it certainly puts fear in the spectators' hearts as well. But what is the basis of this punishment? The Quran orders that such punishment should never be given without solid proof. And what is the proof? In the case of women the Quran requires that four persons be produced who have actually witnessed the act with their own eyes. This is clearly stated in Surah 4 Al Nisa:

    If any of your women

    Are guilty of lewdness

    Take the evidence of four

    (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you

    Against them

    This condition obviously reflects the concern in Islam for women victimized by false accusations. Not one, not two, nor three but four witnesses are required - a clear message in the formidable condition. Where can four such persons be found who can testify as eyewitnesses?

    The general injunction for bringing such a charge against men is two witnesses. But two does not suffice for women. "To protect the honor of women," writes translator and commentator, Abdullah Yusuf Ali, "stricter evidence is required; i.e. evidence of four instead of the usual two witnesses."

    And this is not the only protection provided for women. Those (miscreants) who bring such a severe charge against women and fail to produce four witnesses are required to be given an equally severe punishment, almost. If the adulterer is given 100 lashes, the false accuser is to be given 80 lashes. Once again this injunction is clear and unequivocal:

    And those who launch

    A charge against chaste women

    And produce not four witnesses

    (To support their allegations)-

    Flog them with 80 stripes;

    And reject their evidence

    Ever after: for such men

    Are wicked transgressors

    (Surah Al Nur, 24:4)

    The tragedy is that the very words of the Quran which protect women against the wicked transgressions and profligacy of men, whose habits have not changed much in 1400 years, are twisted around to convey the exact opposite. And the equality of the sexes in punishment and reward, enjoined by Islam, is conveniently forgotten.

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    might be a good idea sis, to start another hub to answer all these questions inshallah, there are very many !! lol :) love u sis

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Yes, Sis. I believe I did tried to explaining that above, but indeed it is hard with my limited English. :(

    Stoning to death indeed came from shaheeh hadidht, but never mentioned in Al Qur'an at all. We should not put Al Qur'an bellow hadidht because it can caused error. Al Qur'an first and then Hadidht later, when we need more explaination, If look from this side, stoning to death for Zina should not become part of Islamic Law.

    You are right. Indeed this topic already flooded my mind for while now and make me want to create a Hub, since many of my teachers said 'ameen'to stoning to death punishment, said that Muhammad SAW is the "living Qur'an" and questioning his acted like questioning our iman. But I'm questioning really hard and still I think I have strong Iman, because didn't Allah told us to think?

    Ok, this punishment indeed already happened. But Muhammad, SAW are prophet who have more insight than us. In my opinion there must be more reason lied behind this case.

    For example, like one time people brought a thief in front of Muhammad, SAW and he ordered them to stoning him to death. But then one of shahabah refused that, told Muhammad, SAW that it is not what Al Qur'an taught people. Muhammad, SAW agree on this and changed the punishment. He ordered to cut his hand from the lowest part. But then later, they keep brought this thief back again and again and again to have his hand cut over and over, in highest place every time, of course, because he keep becoming thief even after lost some part of his hand. Turned out the reason why Muhammad, SAW ordered him to be stoning to death at first because he already seen this coming. How if at that time no shahabah refused it? The punishment for thief must be stoning to death right now. :(

    Well, it is big stuff to discuss and to create one Hub about it, I'm really burdening with my lacking of knowledge. Make me really worry. Beside my English disabilities kind of limiting my way in explaining this to others. Worry! Worry! Worry! @.@

    Love you to,my wise sister, very much.

    Thank you to help me explaining those what I need to tell but not able to. ^_^

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    muslima61 7 years ago from manchester UK

    hi sis, you should not worry, worry worry !!! just make sure you read, read, read and if you are not sure, ask questions. We are all learning, our very life is a learning process. I have learned so much already and still have sooo much more to learn..... Islam is beautiful, it is only through twisting of the words, old traditions and cultural influences that it has become the object of critisizm... We should all as Muslims know that we are obliged to seek out the truth... it is written, to learn, and to do no more that is obligated on us by Allah....

    keep up the good work.JazakAllah khairan ....:)

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    A letter from a Christian to Muslim women

    http://islamzpeace.com/2009/04/01/the-beauty-of-wo...

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    Amiruddin Alauddin 7 years ago

    I have been quietly following the comments here with interest :-)

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Salammu alaikum, Sir. How are you? I hope you and your family are in great health and always under Allah protection.

    Sir, as respected Imam, maybe you can answer my question above according to the Stoning to Death punishment in adultery which I can't found the law for it in Al Qur'an but existed in Hadidht? Can we put Hadidht above Al Qur'an in doing such a law? I really want to know.

    Please tell me what do think, my respected friend?

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    Amiruddin Alauddin 7 years ago

    Basically the explanation is simple. Many of the verses in the Al-Quran was not easily understand and the Prophet explained it through the many Hadidht.

    As you are probably well aware off, the Al Quran ("Living Miracle") was not only meant for Muslims of the Past but it is also for the coming generations. So many verses in the Quran is symbolic in the sense that when it was 1st reveal, Allah uses simple examples because at that period in Time, it is not easy for the 1st generation Muslims to understand. For example how can a man live in a whale yet survive after years of traveling? Could the "whale" is just a symbol of which today it implies either a nuclear submarine, rockets or space-station?

    "Iqra" was the first revelation and command from Allah for us to read. Not just to read but to do research work and to understand. Islam is a religion that demands it's Umah to be well-educated in every aspects. Once while Europe was in the Dark Ages, over in Baghdad we saw the many advancements made inspired by our scientific-minded ulamaks.

    I can go on and on but at the moment I am pretty occupied reading through a new Gospel (I like to know about all religions in the world) compliment of a friend. The Gospel Of Judas :-)

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Ah, The Gospel Of Judas. I am not read it yet because right at this moment I still trying to finished The Book of Enouch, which kind of eating my brain since it is written in ancient way of writing. Soon I will move to the Book of Judas.

    Yes, I understand about the puzzle inside Al Qur'an. In my understanding there are 3 type of ayyah in Al Qur'an, which are:

    1. Those about the Law, which is usually very clear and do not need more explainantion.

    2. Those that written to Muhammad, SAW, and for us as an extent, usually told about some event or incident on Muhammad, SAW's life around his prophet's time.

    3. Those that written as puzzle and need to be read and to be learn further before the real meaning of it can be understand.

    Punishment on Adultery is a law. Like I said before in my opinion it is usually clear, and there is none of stoning to death in Al Qur'an for those who done zina. But somehow I see your point and insha Allah I will understand it soon. Thank you, Sir. :)

    Yes, I really agree, "Iqra" is order to keep reading, studying and working to gather and develop our ilm. Insha Allah, with the help and attention from respected Imam and humble elder like you and others, we will once again able to reach our "Golden Era". Insha Allah. :)

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    Micky Dee 7 years ago

    Yes Freya- sometimes I am tired -very. God Bless!

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Then rest, Micky. God bless you too. ^_^

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    usabaguda 7 years ago

    hmmm.....

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Now don't Hmmm on me, my little brother! When you start writing your Hub? It's already too long now. :(

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    Disappearinghead 7 years ago from Wales, UK

    You say "The beating to wife only allowed in serious incident (which is involving adultery and not in other circumstances!) when it is needed if the wife do not want to repentant on her mistake but it is only for reminder..."

    If a wife finds her husband in adultery, is she permitted to beat him? What recourse of justice do women have when their husbands are in adultery?

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hello, Disappearinghead. Nice to meet you and thank you for visiting my Hub.

    If wife finds her husband cheated her and commited adultery she should not lower herself by beat that disgraceful husband. Find 4 witness for his dirty sin and then report him to the law, and let the law punish him, then divorce him for her own sake.

    Honourable woman will understand to not let temper controlling her and ruin her dignity. Beside it is better to let the law work on it since Islamic Law on adultery is so hard to endure, and this is justice for her.

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    s.rezvi 7 years ago from UAE

    Mashallah Freya and Jazakallah..You are doing a great job.

    I am really very impressed with your hard work and knowledge.

    I wana know that have you done your education in Islamic studies or so...

    May Allah (swt) may be pleased with both of us

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Assalammu alaikum, S. Resvi.

    Alhamdullilah, Allah help me to do this. I don't have any education in Islamic Studies. All because I tried to read as much as I can. And become writer in Islamic subject help me a lot too. Right now I am listed as student at Bilal Philips's Islamic Online Studies, but I kind of lazy at this moment and not even start any courses yet. :(

    May Allah, swt pleased by all of us, insha Allah. :)

    Thank you for reading this.

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    NEHRA 7 years ago from MAURITUS

    impressive hub.. nice job sister Freya.

    ALLAH bless u. Ameen.

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    NEHRA 7 years ago from MAURITUS

    one question sister freya,

    can a woman in 'Haiz' recite Darood Shareef n Wazifa?

    Thanks

    Noor

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Noorenaz, first thing I must say, you have beautiful name and fit very well with your avatar, so beautiful ^_^.

    And secondly, thank you again for reading my Hub. I'm so glad to see you here.

    As far as I know the things woman can't do during haiz are :

    1. Sholat

    2. Reading from mushaf Al qur'an

    3. Fasting

    4. and Have sexual intercourse with her husband

    Anything except those is all right to do. Woman still able to recite any verses or reading the translation of Qur'an, as long as it is not from Mushaf. Woman allowed to do dzikir and recite wazifa or darood shareef when she is in haiz time.

    I hope I answered you in the right way, Sister. ^_^ Thank you, Sis. :)

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    NEHRA 7 years ago from MAURITUS

    thanks for praising my name sis Freya, Mashah ALLAH ur name also is beautiful.. :)

    thank you for our answers Freya dear, sure u helped me.

    oh i wanted to say also that the link i asked u to see, well i saw it here and i am asking you to see somthin u post urself, i forgot.. ahh,., :)))) ur noor sister losing her mind, ;)

    another thing sister Freya, i have a book at home about 99 names of ALLAH, written to recite each name certain number of times for each problm, for example.. YA ALLAH 100 times to remove doubts n conception, another one is YA BADI- AL AJAEBE BIL KHARE YA BADI 1200 TIMES FOR 12 DAYS, this will help to achieve anythin in particular that we asking for or want, for example..

    do u have any knowledge about these recitations. i also found on net some days before that these things are not allowed in Islam.. !!

    thank you.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hehehe... Sister Noor, you are so funny. ^^

    About reciting Asmaul Husna in certain number, if there is any hadidth which told us about Muhammad, SAW habit in doing it, I never found it yet. If Muhammad, SAW never did this it mean it is bid'ah, and that is mean we should be really careful.

    Yes, I did heard that reciting Asmaul Husna have great benefit. But why should put number on it? It said recite 'Ad-dharr' for 1001 times and your sickness will be cure. If the sick one not able to recite it 1001 due of miscount or he get too tired and fall to sleep, will Allah cancel his bless to give him the health he need? Did Allah that greed? Of course not! Allah will listen to all of our prayer as long as we doing it with all of our heart.

    Allah never count His bless to us, and I believe he will never start doing that. So why we count our prayer to Him? Didn't it mean we are so greedy? It is not the count that important, but the heart of the one who doing it is the most important thing of all.

    The basic goal of recite Asmaul Husna or doing Dzikir or Tahmid etc, simply is to remembering Allah in every breath we take. By always remembering Allah, we will always remember to avoid what forbidden to us and do what Allah ordered us to do. By always remembering Allah, we will always in the right path.

    Sister, reciting is good but we should remember, it is not only the act which important, but also the will. Allah will listen to us even if we are talk to him in different language with Muhammad, SAW. If one get really sick and wish to be cure, pray to Allah with all of our heart, and even if he do not recite 'Ad dharr' in 1001 a day, if it is Allah will, he will be health again.

    For me, myself, than reciting Asmaul Husna in certain number, I more enjoying in singing the whole nasheed of Asmaul Husna in so many times as much as I can do without thinking about the number. And if I need Allah help on something special, I will drown myself under taubah and tasbih prayer more than usual. I believe Sholat is the best way on asking help than any other way.

    I hope it useful and I hope I answered it right.

    You make day, dear sister. Thank you. ^^

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    NEHRA 7 years ago from MAURITUS

    ya sometimes im funny, hehehe.

    well i appreciate u take ur time and wrote on this topic. yes all u wrote are absolutely right, i agree with you. i thank you a lot.

    Allah Bless you.

    take care.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Sister Noorenaz, with my pleasure, dear. I am glad we can shared our understanding about our faith. Alhamdullilah.

    Stay funny, Sis. Because laugh is always good for everyone.

    Insha Allah, we are all always under Allah bless. ^^ Salam.

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    BK PAUL 7 years ago

    Islam is a religion for TERRORISTS only. Not for kind hearted. They like Changhizkhan, Ghori, Ghazani, Aurangazeb and present terrorists like Dawood, LET group etc all are TERRORISTS. There is no place for kind hearted like kesus, Mother Theressa etc Very bad.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Interesting subject to put, BK PAUL.

    Let's make a count then, from many Muslim, how many is terrorist? From many terrorist, how many is Muslim? Did you really knew the exact numbers to said such worst accused?

    You don't have to have religion to become terrorist: you only need plaque in your heart and those not come from religion, but from whisperer of evil.

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    summaiya soomro 7 years ago from karachi

    dear freya,

    i read ur hub i was interesting, but the nikaf is not a must in islam in the quran it is mentioned to cover one self in such away that ur face and hands can only be seen and even when performing umrah or haj a woman's face must be seen..:)but yes if u want to nikaf then there is no problem but it is not a must.the rest of the things are too good.

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Salam, Summaiya. ^_^

    There's 3 different opinion about niqaf, One said it is only Arabian tradition, second said it is sunnah, and the third said it is obligation.

    I am agree with you it is not a must, and me myself do not wear it.

    I'm sorry if there is some misunderstanding here about the meaning of word veil (my friend told me that veil have more closed meaning with niqaf than hijab, but in Indonesia, the word Jilbab or Hijab always translating as Veil) or the pics I added, which maybe caused you translated this Hub differently with what I mean.

    There's 3 reason why I added those pics.

    1. Simply because I love those pics. ^^

    2. Because it is great example about beauty beyond the mini outfit or naked body.

    3. It is because Niqaf lady is the one whose had so many accused and suspicion these days in the western world. I want people understand that they just person like everyone of us, and just because they chose to wear niqaf didn't mean they all freak.

    I hope that can explain what I mean in my Hub. ^^

    Wassalam, dear.

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    summaiya soomro 7 years ago from karachi

    WALAIKUMASALAM aww..that is soo sweet:) continue your amazing hubs:) and even i dont wear a niqaf myself, but i wear a hijab i.e cover my head ALHADULLIAH:)

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Shukran, Sister, insha Allah ^_^. The best thing about writing in Islam religion and belief section at Hub Pages is I can meet many sisters and brothers and sharing the thought and idea, which is so great. I'm happy to meet you too in here. Have a nice day, dear.

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    Waqas Ahmed 7 years ago

    Salam,

    I just want to say to owner of this hub...thanks n dat u r doing a very good deed... May Allah reward you for your effort.

    And to our Christian sister who actually took her time out and cleared her mind from all media stuff to actually understand Islam...may god bless you for your efforts

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    Freya Cesare 7 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Salam.

    Ameen. Thank you for your prayer. Insha Allah this Hub will be useful for many people who willing to read this. ^^ Thank you.

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    Mohammad Jaid alam 6 years ago

    Asslam Alaikum Freya

    Sis, i appreciate the effort taken by you in explaining the concept of Islam and about the most prevailing misconception about Islam. Although i am not very mush good in Islamic knowledge but i do understand whatever is mention in Quran & taught by Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H) is for a valid reason for the sake of its people.

    And faith is not about arguing, when you have faith in something you have to accept it, whether you like it or not. But sure, you must try to look for the right logic to convince you.

    And i have faith in Quran, i do not doubt it. May Allah give every human being enough understanding of Islam so that he can spend this beutiful life for ALLAH.

    This is my 1st day on this hub and honestly its been since 2 hours i am continuously reading the discussion :).

    Uhh Ramadan is going, and i need to wake up early morning,already its 2 AM now.

    AllahHHafiz

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Mohammad Jaid alam, waalaikum salam. I'm so sorry for the late reply.

    Yes, the discussion is too long, right? I kind of enjoy this, sharing my understanding about Islam to those who wants to know.

    I tried so hard to not argue and I think I managed to do that. We can see several bad comments above from non believer and usually I will answered it a little only to set the idea right and then abandon it. I tried so hard indeed, but if it still looks like I am arguing, I didn’t mean to.

    Thank you for reading this, brother in Islam. Ramadhan Mubarak.^_^

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    rohit 6 years ago

    miss u r great !!!!

    ur post give me inspiration , thanx for urs lovely posts

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    sns2000 6 years ago from Benidorm

    unbelieveble i really like this hub once again mashallah may you guide other people to the right path as i know iam going on this road and with your help it will be much easier many thanks my sister natasha x

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    sns2000 6 years ago from Benidorm

    o jeh before i for get Ramadan Mubarak my lovely siter thinking of you thanks x

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    Gous Ahmed 6 years ago from Muslim Nation

    Well doen freya for having the right answers for all the questions, you have done a fantastic job. I am sorry for not being able to contribute becaus ei have been very busy recently and still am!

    I am really proud that a person like you is on Hubpages who is helping other people gain knowledge in Islam.

    Keep it up sister!

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    yomama 6 years ago

    get a life!

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    Gous Ahmed 6 years ago from Muslim Nation

    @ Freya

    You don't have to accept all comments you know! Lol.

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    Rookie70 6 years ago

    Freya Cesare, I was reading through the comments here pertaining to your hub. This is indeed an interesting hub. I admit that you were very detailed in your description of the beliefs and practices of Islam. May peace of God be upon us all.

    I want to ask you a question about some of the statements you made about Christians being sinful, and pertaining to our government leaders, here in America particularly. You said, "How people can make rule to guide society if they are the same people who have tendency to break this rules they made themselves?" You have to also uderstand that that question can be asked about Muslim leaders. The question would be, "are Muslim leaders vulnerable also, or do they have a tendency to break the law? Are they not all human? According to the words of Jesus(whom Muslims claim to have been a "great" prophet), he said, "There is noone good, but God." The point I am making is this, even if your nation are under Allah, and all of the laws pertaining to daily living and mankind, all are under Allah, this does not make the nation of Islam sinless. Not trying to sound vulgar in my speech, but does the name "Saddam Hussein" president of Iraq ring a bell? He was president before he was executed. He was also a Muslim, and "Muslim" by definition is "A believer in or adherent of Islam." - The American Heritage Dictionary. I could go on with a list of leaders in your nation, but that would steer too far. This just proves that evil men are everywhere, in America, in Russia, Africa, China,and the Middle East, regardless of what system of law or government, are all man made. It is beside the point that Hussein was executed for the wicked deeds he'd done, evil men claim to be followers of Islam, just like many "self-proclaimed believers in Christ, don't abide in the truth." Now, pertaining to the retribution of law-breakers, there is a difference between God's law, and man's law. We are supposed to obey the laws of the land. Even the bible makes it clear, which Paul said, "the authorities are Christ's servents, carrying out punishment on evil doers." That's talking about the law of the land, such as murder, robbery, theft, and etc. All those crimes(in man's terms) are punished according to their degree. However, when it comes to God's law, we understand that Christ, is the end of the law, those of us who seek Christ, who is also the wisdom and power of God, and is the very express image of His person. The bible teaches that Christ made Himself a "litter lower than the angels." Sins will be God's dealing with, not man's, but crimes, are all man's dealings. Islam does not understand that concept.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Rohit : Thank you, very much. :)

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Natasha, Thank you dear. I am glad you like it. And May Allah guide us all.

    Even it is already late, Happy Ied, dear.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    G Miah, thank you for your kind support and nice words. It is really happy to know that I able to help even only a little with my limited knowledge. Thank you, G. Miah. And, about comment, I might do not need to answer all comments but I will try my best. No matter good or bad response I got, it still mean something for others to see and for me to learn about diversity inside people's head.

    Happy Ied, brother of my faith! :)

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Yomama : That kind of comment usually came from someone who do not have any idea how to debate on subject you don't agree with. Poorly way of saying "I am not agree!"

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hi, Rookie70, it seem you missunderstood my words, or maybe I am not made it clear to be understand, please forgive me, since my English is limited.

    Regarding that line I wrote before as response to your sister in faith :

    "How people can be president and rule the country if he can't ruled himself? How people can make rule to guide society if they are the same people who have tendency to break this rules they made themselves? How people can sit in their place as judge and Prosecutor if they are criminal too? Now, how can you accept their law when you know how bad and corrupt they are?

    Because you know that is important to be follow the guide to become good citizen. Isn’t that right? And you follow them because their rules have to be paid as soon as you are committed your crime. So, why it can goes the same with Islamic Law?

    Muslim chose to follow Al Qur'an than only men made law, because we don't want to be fool by false law. And Al Qur’an had put strict guide in ruling country; including inside, how to choose leader, judge, prosecutor, lawyer, witness, etc. This rules not men made, so the one who made it cannot be accused as corrupt, and as long as people keep put Al Qur’an as their guide to choose their ruler, there will be no problems at all."

    In that comment I never said that Muslim Country Governments is not corrupt, because they are. I said,

    "But all leader, judge, prosecutor and lawyer, they all are just human being, and just like your leader, judges, prosecutors and lawyers, they can be corrupt too. But it is only human who have flaw, Christine, not the law."

    There I mention how even under great law, government can be corrupt also. But because the law is not man made law, it is not corrupt law which we can lean on and used against Government when they become corrupt and walk differently with the law. This is how we can make sure, as citizen, our right protected by God and even it is hard to gain, we still are in the right path if we follow God's law only.

    Sure this is hard things to do, and we know very well how harsh and cruel government in several Muslim country can be, but my people still learn how to become great educated citizen and fight for this. We will keep trying to fix it, by lean on the law we know and believe. It takes time, because my people still far behind yours, but soon, I believe and put great hope on this, we will gain all knowledge and power we need to fix the rotten inside our own government with the rule God already blessed us to have, insha Allah (if it is god's will).

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    Rookie70 6 years ago

    Freya Cesare, don't insult me. I did not misunderstand your words. I understood every word you said. I have the discernment between good and evil. I know a lie when I am being told one. The sad truth is, you among other Muslims are blatanly blind. No matter how much the corrupt men in your country put a fist upside your head, you will keep believing that the Qu'ran is Allah's incorruptible law. You Muslims are blinded and brainwashed to the point that you can't even see the evil your own nation does to other Non-Muslims. Since you want to judge me and my country, including our government, I will first point out to you the flaws in your so-called Qu'ran. I'm doing this because I feel I have a God-given duty to expose the darkness when darkness is presenting itself as light, which is what you're doing, and it doesn't surprise me if Satan did it. Islam talks peace, but their actions show otherwise. Jihad is one of your false teachings from the Qu'ran, which supposedly means "to struggle." That's half true, and half a lie. Jihad, involves murdering Non-Muslims. I know. And what gets to me is that you Muslims go into the Holy Bible to one particular passage to back up Jihad, which is nowhere found in the bible. That passage where Jesus was giving a parable about the Master and the 10 talents. If you're going to claim the bible has errors, then stop using it to plagiarize it, taking the Lord's words out of context to make up the Qu'ran. Qu'ran also teaches that husbands can discipline their wives like children by whipping on them. I'll be more than happy to post the link to the video. If this isn't slavery, I don't know what is. And you are too blind to see that. Another flaw in your so-called Koran, what is this teaching about sex with animals? And you said Allah gave you this??? What kind of God do you serve? Another flaw in your so-called Koran, you Muslims claim to believe that Jesus was a prophet of Allah. If he was, then why isn't Allah mentioned anywhere in the Old Testament, or the new? and Why did Jesus say that he is the way, the truth and the life, and that no man can have access to God the Father, but by him? Yet, the Qu'ran says something different. This means either Jesus was not a prophet of Allah, or Allah is not a true God. Both can't be right.

    Now, after having exposing the darkness in my country, I will expose the nation of Islam. I'll begin with this so-called "Jihad," which supposedly means to struggle. The truth is, what it really means, is to overtake, overthrow, ambush, kill, and force people to convert to Islam. I have the link to this also. How many Christian churches did you burn down? Just trying to count. How many people were forced to convert? Any numbers? How many Prisoners of War were beheaded by your Muslim brothers? Just trying to count. Yet, we Americans don't behead our prisoners of war. And you say your nation is holier-than-thou??? Now, let's get an understanding. When it comes to the acts that are carried out, the American government is a hell of a lot more Civil than your Islamic nation. That's just speaking of the fruit from the tree, ofcourse you will know a tree by its fruit. A good tree does not bear bad fruit, and a bad tree does not yield good fruit. And I've seen a lot of bad fruit coming from Muslims. Now that we have this clear, we are no different than each other, mankind is corrupt in every nation. We are all sinners before God. The deeds by both Non-Muslims and Muslims are the same. So what does that say about your self-righteous condemnation on Americans?

    My advice and hope for you is that God will open your eyes to see the evil that you so willingly accept as truth.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    I never insulted you and I am being honest. What I said is what I believe and this what I understand. If you think I am blind and brainwashed, so maybe I am. You don't need to run here and try to save me. I am fine and happy and let it be. If you want me to look back and see who I am, please check on the mirror who you really are. I never condemn America, but if that what you think I do, please anything to make you happy, I don't mind. It is obvious you not someone who people can talk with because you just want to listen to your own concept. Hollier than thou, I never mistaken when I see one. Oh, sorry. I am not reading your comment at all.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Oh now since I feel it is unfair to only read your first line of accused, so I read it. It is obviously for me that you know nothing about Islam. For your own sake, I suggesting you, please, read Qur'an. Do not try to find your sources from another books or articles, and for once, put blindfold on your believe about who Muhammad was, and read Qur'an only. Then after that, if you really already do that, let put your accusation on the the discussing table again, so you maybe you will understand how ridiculous you sound.

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    Gazzan 6 years ago

    asalamu alaikum,

    Just Searched trough Google, I found Best article

    MashaAllah,Great Job Keep it up

    jazakAllah for Sharing ..

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Waalaikum salam. Gazzan, thank you very much. I really appreciate your comment and thank you for reading this. I try my best to keep it up.

    Thank you.

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    thomasczech 6 years ago from Canada

    Thank you so much for this Hub. I am a Christian and a Pastor. I lived in Saudi Arabia when I was young and travelled around. During this time I got to understand Islam and its followers very well. I have great respect for the people, I do not follow Islam but respect it and the people. If Christians were as devout to their faith as Muslims are to theirs we would be better off.

    I wrote my views of Islam in my Hub. Please read it and leave me a comment of what you think.

    Thanks

    Thomas

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    Munterrika 6 years ago from Russia, Saint-petersburg/Latvia,Riga

    Hello, Im really interested in that conversation you have here....and I thought, might be you can give me some advice!

    Im Russian, atheist. My boyfriend is muslim.As far as I know I need to accept the religion to get married with him. What would you recommend me, for a person who has some simple ideas about that essention things, to start from; So I could understand and discover Ismal for myself?

    Thank you

    Munterrika

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    thomasczech: I did read your Hub, Sir and I really impressed by it. I am happy that I meet someone who really understand, making me believe there still hope in this world about the peace between us. May God bless you. Thank you.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Munterrika, Hello.

    As far as I know Muslim man allowed to marry non believer of Islam, even for the sake of the heart of children later; the best for him is to marry a Muslim. I believe from experience, changing religion because you married someone is not the good foundation of faith.

    If I might suggesting you an advice, before you getting married, try to read Al Qur'an. Not any book which explaining about Qur'an or some explanation books about it, but Qur'an itself, from cover to cover. I believe you can find one in your mother language translation. But first before you read it, you must clear your head from any judgemental thought which maybe already formed in your head about what Islam is from many stories, ideas or opinion you ever heard, because you need to have clear head to be able to see what Qur'an will say to you. If you find something hard to understand, asked your boy friend to explain it to you, or asked him to introduce you to an Emam and ask that Emam anything you want to know.

    I will not suggesting you to check translation on Internet sites because I found several sites can be really disturbing since they make translation by their own. But if you want to share it with me, I will be happy to study it with you, because I'm still learning about it too and always feel exciting about having a reading friend. Just contact me through my profile. Ok?

    May God bless you, Munterrika, no matter which path you will find in your journey.

    Freya

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    Petra Vlah 6 years ago from Los Angeles

    Hard to believe that people still considere one God to be "better" than the other. There is just ONE GOD and His command is LOVE in any language and in any book, no matter if the prophet was Jesus or Mohamed.

    More people have been killed in the name of "their God" than by any natural disasters; think of the cruciades and the wars of today.

    Would will ever learn? It is time to stop the insanity and understand that religion has been used to divide people and to accumulate power and richess.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Petra Vlah, hello.

    Yes, I am agree with you there is just ONE GOD and His command is LOVE in any language and in any book, and we need immediately to stop fighting over it. I am with you in this and hopefully more people can understand about this too. And yes, we are all being played by those who only want to accumulate power and richess. Very true.

    Thank you, Petra. :)

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    Munterrika 6 years ago

    Hi Freya,

    Thank you very much for you advices...

    Yes, at the moment I read Quran and I see the differencies in translation, so I try to read it in english and in russian translation and I 've met alot of mistakes...we have discussions with my boyfriend and I ask him what I cant understand..

    I wish I could have more time to read coz i felt religion makes me caml...

    Im not depend on things what give us mas-media

    Terror and religion as they perform is wrong and people who do that things has wrong meaning of Qur'an.

    Thank you

    Munterrika

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hi, Munterrika.

    I am glad you see through all the worst example about Islam and Muslim which many non believer of Islam used as the reason to judge all Muslim. Yes, it is happened because people took wrong meaning of Qur'an and act like they know everything already. They are had been blinded by their pain, their pride or their ignorant, or some just simply hypocrite!

    The effect of learning and practicing religion are indeed; calm and peaceful feeling. In the next level of understanding and embracing God, it will bring happiness and strengthen our soul and emotion which we need so much to be able to live the happy life in this strange and misleading world.

    If you studying Al Qur'an and Religion in the right way, insha Allah, if it is God's will, you will gain the wisdom to help you to learn Al Qur'an with ease. Please always remember, we need to be humble in heart and open our mind widely. Ask God to teach you His knowledge. Never allowing suspicion to God bend your view. Insha Allah, you will be fine.

    My pray with you, Munterrika. Insha Allah you will find your way to God. :)

    Thank you, dear.

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    Sis.Fatima 6 years ago from vancouver BC

    SALAM ALEIKUM

    HELLO EVERY BODY

    Im sister Fatima,new member of Hub Pages,your hubs are very interesting mashalah,Sister Feraya you have done great job,may Allah reward you for your time and devotion to your deen,not to forget sister Muslimah61as well,sister Fareya thank you for your patient and your kind replies,i can see through your discussion that you are very kind ,calm,and confident of your self and your path, may Allah keep you stead fast .....but I am not surprised this is the true Muslim way of life, OUR LORD ENJOINED US THROUGH THE QUR'AN TO QUARREL THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK IN BEST MANNERS ONLY

    AS HE SAYS IN SOORAT Al Ankaboot 29:47

    And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.

    I admire christincook as well ,she is open minded lady ,I admire her efforts and courage im sure she spent a lots of time reading, researching ,and learning about other religions and cultures ,which most of non Muslim they don't, i would say they are afraid to know the truth.

    I remember once a lady knocked on my door,she was from johova witness, i let her in and i gave her all time to deliver her message to me, i explained to her from the Islamic teaching and the Book and the Sunnah, it was mutual conversation,while she was leaving she handled me a booklet of her faith, i received it and promised her that i will read it,as Muslims we are open minds and we like to know about others cultures and religion, in return a gave her booklet about Islam. she refused to take it ,that was obvious fear ,like i don't want to know any thing else other then my religion.The only thing i liked about them, that they believed in one God and Jesus was his Prophet. nothing else,because we all know they have made a mixture of religions they took what suits their desire from Islam

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    Sis.Fatima 6 years ago from vancouver BC

    they took what suits their desire from Islam

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Waalaikum salam, Sis Fatima. I am so sorry for late reply. Due bad connection and end of year work, I have to limited my visit on Hub Pages these days.

    Welcome to Hub Pages. I hope you can enjoy your journey here.

    I am just small woman who still in learning about Allah, Islam and Qur'an myself and found that sharing while studying is the best method for me and that is why I started writing articles about Islam; hoping I can find many friends as fellow students of God. And alhamdullilah, it works, even when the path of this not always good and easy.

    Having debate with non Muslim is good thing to widening our knowledge, but which I believe you already see, sometimes, debate can end up into quarrel and this is not nice nor pleasant to experience. I will always trying my best to not become one who mock others and have bad quarrel with other believer of religion, insha Allah.

    Thank you, Sis Fatima. Insha Allah, once I get my chance, I will visit your Hub. :)

    Wassalam.

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    Naim H 6 years ago from Dhaka

    Salam to freya. Your hub is quite interesting though the topic was FACTS ABOUT ISLAM AND MUSLIM you wrote mostly about women and hijab. and you said Prophet Muhammad Sm. is "just like everyone of us." are you sure? we believe that all prophets are the chosen one and they are specially made and they are not like us. and to become a muslim one must believe that Muhammad sm. is the first and the greatest creation of the universe.

    and he is the greatest human on earth. the universe was made after his creation(according to Islam). here no one is compelling anyone to believe this but if we dont believe this then we are not complete "Muslim" in fact not muslim at all. Where Allah himself declared this about our Prophet, who are we to define him? reading the text wont make anybody a muslim, its the faith which can take one to the destiny. islam and muslims are firmly tolerant towards other religions and there are many verses in the Holy Quran about that and also in The Hadith. but if people are never ready to hear and accept the truth and peace is destroyed due to tell the truth, then we have nothing much to do. we are in such age where peace is established upon falsehood and truth is never there. Wikileaks is the best example. you discussed about the word God but God is never ever a synonym of the word Allah. the word God comes from greek myths and it has varieties such as God, god, goddess, godfather, godmother and so on. but almighty Allah is absolute and unique, so is his name, he has no gender like us, he has no wife or son for sure. and only our faith toward Allah and our love toward our prophet and learning lessons from Quran and Hadith can make us true human and true muslim. Thank you

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Waalaikum salam, brother. I am glad you found this Hub interesting. I will try to answer your question one by one. Insha Allah, may Allah give me wisdom to find the right answer. :)

    "...the topic was FACTS ABOUT ISLAM AND MUSLIM you wrote mostly about women and hijab."

    Like I did mentioned at first, these facts gathered to answering questions I ever heard around my journey browsing Hubs and so far, as woman, of course most of the questions I ever heard is about women and Hijab. But I did mention at the last paragraph that I hope for other Muslim brothers and sisters; when they find another facts which is good to be add, they will email that for me so I can add it in the list. Too bad, right until now, nobody ever send any email about this. This invitation is for you too, brother: please send me another facts to be add in this Hub.

    "you said Prophet Muhammad Sm. is "just like everyone of us." are you sure? we believe that all prophets are the chosen one and they are specially made and they are not like us. and to become a muslim one must believe that Muhammad sm. is the first and the greatest creation of the universe."

    Brother, I never tried to insult our prophet by said what I said. If you read it clearly you will see; when I said that Muhammad, SAW is just like everyone of us, in the sense that he is human being, and not God or Son of God like what other religion think about Isa, AS.

    I hope it is answer your doubt about my love and understanding about who Rasullulah is. :)

    Thank you.

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    JDeAngelis 6 years ago from Oz

    Great articles sister. Salam.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Waalaikum salam. Thank you, brother. I'm so sorry for the late reply. :)

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    cheerfulnuts 6 years ago from Manila, Philippines

    Hi Freya! I have a few questions about the hijab. Why do some Muslim women cover their faces, while others cover only their heads? Do women cover their faces all the time? Can they show their faces to close friends (both male and female)? How about in parties or in special occasions, do women wear gowns, or do they still wear jihads? How about when these women go to beaches, or to other countries? I'm just very curious about your clothing. =)

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    cheerfulnuts 6 years ago from Manila, Philippines

    *correction: or do they still wear HIJABS? (not jihads) =p

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hello Cheerfulnuts. ^^ Let's see...

    "Why do some Muslim women cover their faces, while others cover only their heads?"

    There are 3 different opinion about the virtue on Covering face (wearing niqaf). The differences happened because several scholar had made different translation of word "aurat" which then strenghten by different hadeeth (the saying of Muhammad, collected by his best friends, which not all of it really true words of Muhammad, SAW. Several seem fake and can't be trusted so it is important for Muslim to always check it sources before trusting it).

    In Al Qur'an Hijab had been ordered to be used to cover woman's aurat (private places in human's body). Scholar said:

    1. It is obligation: It is sin if women don't wear it. Hijab translated as cover which covering the whole body of woman because the whole body of woman is aurat for her. There is Hadeeth which said woman have to covering the whole body and only leave hole for eyes to see.

    2. It is Sunnah; which is better to wear it but it's all right if you don't want to wear it at all. It is being used following the wives of the prophet . They want to live the way the best women in Islam had lived and believe it will give the great reward.

    3. It is not obligation nor sunnah. Another Scholar translated Hijab as cloak which covering only hair and body. It is strengthen by the rule of clothing in praying for woman. When praying, women had to show their face and allowed to show their palm, which is mean it is not aurat for woman at all because aurat not allowed to be showed at prayer.

    Now it is up to the woman which one they feel as right and true about hijab to follow.

    "Do women cover their faces all the time? Can they show their faces to close friends (both male and female)?"

    Woman doesn't have to wear it all the time. They only have to wear it in front of non-muhrim male. Non-Muhrim male is male whose not this woman's husband and male whose not related to her in blood and allowed to be married with if she doesn't have husband.

    "How about in parties or in special occasions, do women wear gowns, or do they still wear hijabs?"

    Woman wear gown under her hijab and with her hijab. There is several differences in the way Muslim from Saudi Arabia and Muslim from Asia dresses.

    In Saudi Arabia women wear gown under her Abaya (outside clothing which a loose outfit and usually in black color)In party, woman and man will have 2 different rooms. When they already inside the party room for woman, the niqaf, hijab and abaya will be put aside and party gown will emerge from under and colouring the room.

    In Asia, Indonesia for example, many of us wear only Jilbab, which is a triangle scarf or pashmina we used to covering our head only. Some will put it longer until covering our bossom too, just like I usually do. With the hijab, we used variety colour of gown with polite model to covering our aurat and have a loose cut so it won't shows our alluring figure. It is rare for Indosian to have seperate room at party. More likely it will be seperate in side only, so we will wear our hijab still.

    "How about when these women go to beaches?"

    there is swimsuit for Muslimah today, covering head and loose in wrapping woman's body so it won't show any of woman's alluring figure.

    "or to other countries?"

    Even when we have to go to Africa, for example, where the heat is absolutely hot, the rule of covering woman's body will never change. We may change the fabric into something more comfortable but the clothing must be loose, with long sleeve and long skirt or pants, and covering our head with hijab.

    If it is for security need, like in airport where we need to show our face to be compare with our visa and passport, Muslim woman whose wear cover in her face will open the cover, but for that need only. She will covering it again as soon as possible after the checking.

    Ask me if you need to know anything, cheerfulnuts. I will try my best to answer it. ^^

    Thank you. :)

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    cheerfulnuts 6 years ago from Manila, Philippines

    Oh, I didn't know these things. I'm glad I've learned something new. Thank you for your long answer. You can actually write a hub about it! =)

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Ah, I might considering that. ^^ Thank you, Cheerfulnut.

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    Zubair Ahmed 6 years ago

    ASA Sister Freya,

    Hope Allah has kept you in the best of health. Nice hub, I like it. It is amazing how in the West since 911 everything Islam or Muslim is regarded backwards and not civilized.

    Keep up the good work - Salam

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Wa alaikum salam, brother.

    I think it is the challenge of our time, brother. To make us always remember that life is about struggle to become great human and great Muslim. ^^

    Thank you for the prayer. I hope the same for you and your family too. ^^

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    Robin 6 years ago

    This article is a typical islamic article that spreads false information and even defend the slavery of women. I think it is better for muslims and non-muslims to read Quran and hadiths to find the truth instead of believing these type of articles that contain nothing but lies.

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    Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Thank you, Robin. I appreciate your thoughtful comment

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    GrowingDown 6 years ago from South of the Mason Dixon Line

    Love the way you responded to Robin's comment. We often see bashing of religions going back and forth, but if we follow Qur'an, it tells us, "there's no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error."

    Keep educating...It's dawah, good deeds and informative.

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    Entoy da DragoN 5 years ago

    Hi Freya. I find your work very interesting and I like it. I just have some questions that i need answers about islam. Why did mohammed have so many wives? Lets just say he has at least 30 wives in his lifetime. Do you find it HONORABLE, A GREAT PLEASURE & INTELLIGENT if you were his 30th wife? What if the 50yr old mohammed chose your only 18yr old daughter to be the 30th wife? As a mother would you allow it? And finally, can a muslim have sex with all his wives in the same bed at the same time? Thank you, maam.

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    Entoy da DragoN 5 years ago

    Since Im agnostic, I guess I could say my judgement on each religion is fair and balance. We can start by looking back at the characteristics of each of the founders of their religion and NOT by its followers. Buddha seem gentle enough not to hurt a fly. Jesus Christ is either lunatic or a liar but I could never find in his teachings about hurting your fellowmen. Now for mohammed facts, a 54 year old man who married a 9 yr old, raped and married a jewish girl after killing her father, husband and relatives and so much violence in him. Is this how a prophet should behave? I can't believe muslims proclaim that there is no man greater than mohammed..

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    Zticky 5 years ago from Oran , algeria

    great article you wrote, sister !

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    Islam 5 years ago

    MASHALLLLAH BARAK ALLAH FEEKOM SISTER THIS IS very nice mashallah

    Freya you are doing great mashallah very nice post keep it up sister

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    Entoy da DragoN 5 years ago

    I need a muslim to answer my simple question please! Is there a muslim in this forum who allows his/her only 6 yr old daughter to be mohammads 12th wife?

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    Freya Cesare 5 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Hello everyone, I'm really sorry for my late response to your comments.

    Growing Down: Alhamdullilah, I remember there's no used to argue in this kind of thing. Insha Allah I will continue writing. Thank you, brother. ^^

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    tiara86 5 years ago

    beautifully written :)

    the best statement was "just because some muslims do bad things doesnt mean all muslims r bad"

    I completely agree :)

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    Satyaki Dasgupta 5 years ago from Kolkata, India

    You write very well. It cleared many misunderstandings about Holy Quran. I enjoyed reading your blog.

    You said 'As a Muslim Women, being covered from head to toe In summer is indeed hot, but we understand very well that Hell is way hotter!'. In India majority of Muslim women do not wear Hijab. Will they all go to hell?

    You also said 'Hijab (veil/cover) being used by Women to protect Men because most of Men naturally weak in front of woman's beauty.'. It is true that in middle east women are very pretty. But why are you assuming men are weak. Don't you think it is an insult for men to doubt his character and integrity by a woman to justify wearing of Hijab?

    To the best of my knowledge Holy Quran does not impose wearing of veil on women.

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    Freya Cesare 5 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Entoy da DragoN: Obviously you don't really know the fact about Muhammad, SAW and obviously already created your own opinion around the subject.

    Muhammad SAW have 11 wives, not 30. And because I am not his 30th Wife so I don't know the answer whether I will feel honourable, intelligent or can have great pleasure or not as the prophet wife nor I have a daughter which want to get married with 50 years old Rasullulah. I never meet him in person and never live in his time which mean no matter what I thought about marrying 50 years old man it don't mean I will feel the same way if the man is Muhammad, SAW.

    And no, man not allowed to have three some or more with her own wives even if they are all his wives. Only one wife each time.

    Thank you.

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    Freya Cesare 5 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Zticky, Islam & tiara86, thank you very much. ^^

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    Freya Cesare 5 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Satyaki Dasgupta: Hello, Sir. I will try to answer your question. ^^

    "You said 'As a Muslim Women, being covered from head to toe In summer is indeed hot, but we understand very well that Hell is way hotter!'. In India majority of Muslim women do not wear Hijab. Will they all go to hell?"

    Sir, when I said "we" in the line you had mentioned, I was talked as representation of Hijabi women which believe Hijab is an obligation. For me and these ladies, we just want to be submitted to Allah and try at our best to become good woman in His sight which included by wearing Hijab. Wearing Hijab do not mean I will absolutely free from sin and hell, but unless I know I did try at my best to save myself from hell by submitted to Allah's words as best as I can.

    But there are Muslim who believe Hijab is not an obligation and there are people who doesn't really care about religion nor understand anything about. Whether they will go to hell or not, it is not my place to decide or judge but Allah only. Even in Islam we did heard story about prostitute whose win Paradise because she fed injured dog with love. Everything is possible for Allah and who am I dare to predict His decision and act?

    "You also said 'Hijab (veil/cover) being used by Women to protect Men because most of Men naturally weak in front of woman's beauty.'. It is true that in middle east women are very pretty. But why are you assuming men are weak. Don't you think it is an insult for men to doubt his character and integrity by a woman to justify wearing of Hijab?"

    I am not the one who said man is weak, but it is written inside Al Qur'an. It said:

    "Allah Wishes to lighten (the burden) for you; and Man was created weak (cannot be patient to leave sexual intercourse with Woman)" Al Qur'an 04:28.

    To be honest, I never considering man at all when I decided to wearing it. I think if man feels insulted by our Hijab then it is not to us he should send his petition, but to Allah himself.

    "To the best of my knowledge Holy Quran does not impose wearing of veil on women."

    Al Qur'an talked about how woman should wearing cloak which covered her down to bellow of her bossom. The word cloak then translated as hijab, which is similar with cloak; covering head.

    I hope it answer your questions.

    Thank you.

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    Satyaki Dasgupta 5 years ago from Kolkata, India

    I respect your absolute faith in Allah. I can assure you that Allah will not send any Muslim women to hell for not wearing Hijab. Allah is great.

    How a Muslim should react if someone criticizes Allah or Holy Quran?

    Do you think Salman Rushdie should be punished for his controversial novel Satanic Verse?

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    Freya Cesare 5 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

    Long time a go, I will jumped right the way into debate if I hear someone criticized Allah and holy Qur'an. But today I will look carefully at first, whether this person is genuine truth seeker or just someone who look for a place to throw his tantrum and already have giant idea about Islam in his head which caused him refuse to hear other. I will enjoy to share my knowledge with truth seeker but will avoid unnecessary argument with the other one because it's not worth the headache.

    Allah, SWT is the greatest among all. Allah do not need me to depending Him nor to kill for him. Allah need nothing from me. I am the one who need Allah so I will follow His words. Allah told Muslim there is no used arguing about religion with other who will not get anything good from it so this is what I will do, not to argue.

    Salman Rushdie? Yes, I heard about him but never read his book nor understand the situation behind his case. But I do believe it is no used to punish other for spreading what he believe. It is more useful to strengthen Muslim ummah by educating the children with the real teaching of Islam so they will have enough deposit of taqwa inside their heart and will not easily being sway by lies like Muslim said Salman Rushdie did.

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    hodanabib 5 years ago

    Hi Freya i had a question for u i seem to not find the right answer maybe u could help me out i am a muslim sister i am married woman but my husband is telling me i am not allowed to hang with my bestfriend of 6 years she is a sister he wants to divorce me if i do not leave her alone is this right could a husband say this too a friend thanks u very much

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    durronn 4 years ago from Pekanbaru

    Tiada Tuhan Selain Allah, dan Nabi Muhammad utusan Allah

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    Jim Higgins 4 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

    This is a well-done, great and informative hub for westerners, or any non-Muslim. The statement that terrorists may be Muslim, but Muslims are not terrorists is really important. Many people in the West do not seem to understand that.

    Thank you for sharing this.

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    Philipp391 4 years ago

    Looking at western man today it is the veiled ladies who are the true Sisters of Mercy.

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    monisa 4 years ago from India

    Assalamualaikum Freya, very beautiful hub. I suggest you should remove the women photographs wearing hijabs for a better understanding of Islam. I agree with the Muslima6 who have been taking part in this discussion and trying to solve problems, Alhumdullilah! May Allah(SWT) guide you and bless you.

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