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The Arab Fall. Will there finally be a true Arab Spring.

Updated on March 20, 2013

Blame not the Religion or Faith, a criminal does not need a reason

Man made temples are dwarfed next to the Heavens
Man made temples are dwarfed next to the Heavens | Source

A desire to fight. We all just have to accept that some folks have it.

The situation in Syria is escalating. Jihadists are ending up with more weapons. Hillary just took the blame for what a President should accept and a counter strike is eminent. Over toward Alleppo bad things are a foot. And that stinks.

Think about though, it is not a them against us problem. The problem is with lack of responsibility withing these areas. These are criminals perpetuating these acts. And then Hillary comes along and takes responsibility instead of our president. Not good and here is why:.

In order to make more clear this violence of the Arab Fall let us look inside to the threat that is there, not Just Muslim and American but universal.

When I was young and playing in the school playground we would start a game. Whoever felt tough would draw a line in the dirt. And then say to someone “I dare you to cross that line”. Somebody had to do it. Maybe a grudge, maybe competition or maybe to move up in the social order. In my youth we fought a lot. I can hold my nose down flat, the bones to keep it rigid were busted so often they did not fully develop. Of course legitimate football and basketball and wrestling added their own. With childhood friends we count and reminisce over our scars. Many wounds have scars worse than they needed to be, cause we hid them from adults so as not to get in trouble. That is what Hillary did and ultimately it will make matters worse.

We wanted to fight so we would make up reasons. As we got older injuries became more severe so we generally stop doing it. Plus our coaches would get plenty pissed off if we were hurt for game. So by about the time of mustaches and drinking and girls we found better things to do. Fighting just was not the same and so we moved on other things.

Fighting just lost the appeal. When will terrorism loose its appeal.

What down right get on our knees thankful we should be that we are not sick.

Brooks somehow transcends the boy into a wiseman. His aim was to touch both the little child in us as well as wisdom - I think he got it.
Brooks somehow transcends the boy into a wiseman. His aim was to touch both the little child in us as well as wisdom - I think he got it. | Source

Please do not understand illness to ever be associated with faith. It is the antagonist of illness.

I saw awhile back that a supposedly Christian minister of some sort got people all excited and burned some books. They were not pornography, they were not illegal and from what I could tell they were not immoral. My understanding is that they were another religion’s books of faith. That sounds doggone near normal these days. But still the notion is disgusting and anti-Christ as it could be. Man I have trouble keeping up with just reading all the books, I definitely don’t have time to go burn them in order to hurt another human soul.

Now fervent religious belief is a good thing. As long as the belief system does not go haywire and start preaching anti belief. My beliefs are my own. I have places to worship that fit my faith. I do some preaching. And I never shy from a good argument about my belief. My beliefs are strong. But there is nothing in my belief that allows me to hurt another with a different belief, because of their belief.

My vision of God is what we call “Omnipotent”. If God wanted to He could tell me to hate and be hurtful. So just what God is telling these folks to be violent toward one another?

People who profess a Muslim faith have just violently killed and otherwise seriously hurt people they did not know and they claim faith. It just does not rub well with me. Something is out of synchronization. How does one justify violence? My previous story of fighting was meant to work as a metaphor.

Some folks just like to fight and do mean vicious things to others. I tell you as a child I did. Sometimes there is something worth fighting for. Many a time I had good reason to fight, I just can’t remember a single one ;) Most adults contain the fight or flight reaction in constructive ways. But some just can’t.

Man is not a cattle. Through faith they cannot be led to do wrong, but through weakness they can.

I some uses the excuse that "I was ordered to do it". Probably best to walk away - quickly.
I some uses the excuse that "I was ordered to do it". Probably best to walk away - quickly. | Source

Silver linings abound, but not if we buy into nutcases having a reason to commit atrocities

Our brethren who hide out and rise to the surface only to do damage are extremely violent. I wonder if they have a passage that includes going forth and raping. That is some sick behavior. No, I think we all have to conclude that there is no faith that commands people to act in such a manner. We have to conclude that there is sickness that lies within and stop looking for reason from without. If you ask a scorpion why he stings things he will say “because I am a scorpion”. If you ask these people seriously why they do what they do, the only true answer is because they are sick. If they blame it on a religion or faith that is coming from the inside out and not from faith to within.

A good thing to remember as horrible violence comes from within a man, it is also true that tremendous Love also comes from within.


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    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      phdast7 , Perhaps you are the element missing in these discussions, as in the radical paths of the unbalanced. Perhaps if they all had a you things would be different in a good way.

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      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      JesseFutch, I hope you see that my position leads to the same conclusion. Wildass lunatics should not play on the same playing field as us. We have no business considering the completely nuts position of the completely minority anywhere. Assume I am a Muslim. I want those critters eradicated. But I cannot say so without retribution. I should not have to spell that out to Joe Public. Help! is what I am hearing. Does the US ignore the plea and care not about the SOS?

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      6 years ago from North Carolina

      Common sense is so uncommon because common sense is so uncommon. Hate begets hate, violence begets violence and indifference begets indifference. It is a sad fact that, as long as these atrocities are allowed to go on, they will go on and escalate. The masses that KNOW these things happening are wrong need to stand up against these bullies. People sit by idly refusing to do anything about it. This only encourages the bullies (and those who are so unaccepting of others beliefs) to continue doing as they have always done. We as a country and as a people are so busy apologizing for everything, making sure no one gets their feelings hurt and trying to be politically correct. The elephant in the room is this: apologizing for everything, not hurting anyone's feelings occasionally and being politically correct are all INCORRECT! America used to have a pair. Now we have a government that wants us to "lose our superpower status gracefully like England did". Will we fix it before it's too late? I doubt it.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Vern, One of my favorite phrases is "there but for the Grace of God go I". Your wisdom and bringing us to Ego and responsibility are perfectly placed.

      Inside I am outside and outside I am inside. Good for all humans that struggle to keep perspective and act good. The concept that is becoming obvious is "how to the masses contain the out of control"?

      I really do not like the anwer -- with love and compassion.

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      Vernon Bradley 

      6 years ago from Yucaipa, California


      The potential for all kinds of behavior does rests inside each of us, and as long as we can take ownership of all our potential, then the probability for acting out diminishes. When I split off from all of who I am, and I do that by labeling some parts of myself as good and some parts as bad, then the war begins.

      I think it is an excellent idea for us, as so-called Christians, to continue to reflect on all the crazy ass crimes we have perpetrated on non-Christians for thousands of years. We are no better than any other sect or group who seems to support violence as a way to resolve religious differences.

      I think it is equally excellent, as so-called Christians, to reflect on the crazy ass crimes we have perpetrated on other Christians as well.

      It is all NUTS. It represents the splitting of self into good and bad parts which we do so well and have done so well from the beginning of time. I am not sure what purpose that splitting serves, but it definitely does not promote an inidividual or a group being accountable or taking responsibility for the way the individual or the group treat other people either alike or different.

      Again, thank you for giving me an opportunity to think and reflect.

      Great hub


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      Theresa Ast 

      6 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Marvelous, both the Hub and the conversation. Mr. Happy (I call him White Wolf) is one of my favorite and greatly respected Hubbers. I am so pleased to see the two of you engaged in such good and deep conversation. Coming back again later to comment properly when I have more time. :) Theresa

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Kind of and in a way. I work in problem resolutions. I will bet you that it is about 80% of folks do not have a serious problem. Sitting down a few times and evaluating their issues brings about solutions that are within reach. Yea, they do not teach in school or church but it is as clear as a bell -- I do not know but I imagine "life coaches" attempt this, but sooner or later it come down to practical expertise,,, for another day.

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      Mr. Happy 

      6 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Haha!! I am glad You enjoyed my rant, Mr. Eric Dierker ... no holds barred with me (lol!).

      "But let us be fair, you and I spend countless hours forming a position that is correct and justifiable. Some are incapable."- So, is that it? We just need to sit everyone down to some private and concentrated thinking? Why are some people incapable to see common sense? Why is common sense not so common?

      What would You say?

      And thank You for the discussion and the article.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you very much Mr. Happy. You just put forth a wonderful muse of what sane people go through. I wonder if there is a term "Super Sane". But let us be fair, you and I spend countless hours forming a position that is correct and justifiable. Some are incapable.

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      Mr. Happy 

      6 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      "Many a time I had good reason to fight, I just can’t remember a single one." - I do not think fighting is bad. I think it depends on the intent.

      I practiced marital arts for several years. I attended competitions. I have taken a kick to the head and I have given some in return (lol). I have no issue with two people who decide for whatever reason that they want to fight, as long as they do not directly affect and/or involve others. We have boxing as a sport too, no?

      I do not stand bullies for example and so, there have been times in my life where I put myself in between bullies and their targets, simply stating that: "To get to him, You first get by me." End of the conversation. No fight in any of those cases but I was ready to; I am pretty sure that is why bullies back-off too.

      I even witnessed a police officer push a protester around, several months back and I had a word with that police officer's Sergent and told him too that if he wants to start pushing, we can certainly get the pushing going but that is not what I was there for and I did not think that he wanted matters to escalate either: the pushing stopped ...

      I don't really know what to say. I consider myself a pacifist. We can sit down and smoke the pipe but when someone gets pushy, disrespectful and/or abusive then, the tone will change and the ugly wolf comes out.

      Some people of the First Nations say that we are like a mirror to one another. Thus, if You are kind to me, You will receive love and kindness but if You bring violence and hatred to me, as the saying goes: "You live by the gun, You die by the gun".

      I do not believe in turning the other cheek. I believe in mistakes and so I believe in forgiveness. Turning the other cheek is too extreme for me - some people will take You for a punching bag if You keep turning the cheek ... it all depends on each circumstance, I suppose.

      Violence over beliefs is not warranted in my opinion. Or insults ... insult me all You want and ask me if I care after ... I think some people should try to build a thicker skin, while other people should try to respect the wishes and beliefs of others a little more.

      If we each give-in a little, perhaps we can meet in the middle.

      All the best!


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