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The Baptism of The Holy Spirit

Updated on August 24, 2009
The Holly Spirit decended on Jesus
The Holly Spirit decended on Jesus

Confusion Concerning The Baptism of The Spirit

Confusion on this subject is hard to overcome because of our experience, our church doctrine and views taught by our respective Pastors. We can't say that what one experience is wrong or right because it is real to them regardless of Bible doctrine. People have a tendency to place church doctrine above Bible doctrine for fear of being called a heretic. Then there is the fact that many believers want to experience the the power of God so much that they push aside any academic discussion on the subject.

If you believe that the church began with Abraham or John the Baptist then it would be difficult to understand the baptism of the Spirit today. Then we have those that believe water baptism brings about salvation; this can obscure the doctrine of Spirit baptism. Some how or another Spirit Baptism is just a symbol of water baptism in their minds.

I was raised as a child to believe that baptism of the Spirit was associated with the gift of tongues. It was believed that speaking in tongues was the evidence of the baptism of the spirit as opposed to teaching and preaching which Paul says are the best gifts. Some to justify the association of baptism with tongues, attempt to make a distinction between the baptism by the Spirit of I Corinthians 12:13, which places one into the Body of Christ, and the baptism with the Spirit of Acts 1:5, which brings tongues. In both of these verses the baptism is described as en pneumati, and so one would seem to build two separate doctrines on exactly the same phrase.

The filling of the Spirit is sometimes confused with the baptism of the Spirit. At this juncture in this teaching I'd like to point out that the the word baptism (baptisma) consist of the processes of immersion, submersion and emergence. To place into or dip. Example:The baptism of the Spirit places us into the Body of Christ. (I Corinthians 12:13) "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,. . .). Another point of confusion is stated by saying that the baptism does not come at the time of regeneration but is a subsequent work of grace. This view was held by widely respected leaders, apparently influenced by nineteenth-century holiness Penticostal theology with its lack of doctrinal precision. Foremost among these conservatives were F. B. Meyer, A.J. Gordon, A. B. Simpson, Andrew Murry, and R. A. Torry.

Torry may be said to be the one non-Pentecostal leader who, after Wesley and Finney, was the most influential in the prehistory of Pentecostalism. He gave the greatest impetus to the establishment of the movement as doctrinally respectable and exponentially sound. It is ironical, however, that what Pentecostal writers quote most frequently from Torrey represents an otherwise sound and incisive thinker and Bible teacher at his worst and not at his best -at his weakest and not at his strongest point. Torry taught that a person could or could not be baptised with the Spirit at the moment of regeneration. Such confusion results in misunderstanding and divisions among Christians.

The baptism of the Spirit is limited to this age. The baptising work is never mentioned as being experienced in the Old Testament or in the days of Christ's earthly ministry. It is universal among all believers in this age and is repeated each time a person is converted but is experienced only once by each person. The once and for all baptizing of the Spirit places one into the Body of Christ. The baptism of the Spirit happens whether or not the believer is conscious of it. So it is nonexperiential work of the Spirit.

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    • oscarwms profile imageAUTHOR

      Dr. Oscar A. Williams, Jr. 

      7 years ago from PA

      Thank you RevLady I see we touch and agree on the same thing.

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      RevLady 

      8 years ago from Lantana, Florida

      A great hub. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on a subject of widespread confusion among the saints of God.

      Blessings!

      Forever His,

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      Allan Svensson 

      8 years ago

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      The baptism by the Holy Spirit belongs to the

      fundamentals of God's gospel. This is the first

      experience for people when they receive Jesus Christ

      as their Lord and Saviour. Jesus baptizes them with the

      Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit gives them the new life in

      Christ, and they become new creations in Christ.

      2 Cor. 5:17. When you are born again, you are born

      of the Spirit. John 3:6-8.

      In the Pentecostal churches they have not preached

      the truth of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. They have

      learnt only a little part of this biblical truth, and the

      little they have learnt, they have turned back to front.

      In the Assembly of God, the Body of Christ, we are all

      baptized by one Spirit into one body, but not all have

      the gift to speaking with tongues. 1 Cor. 12:12-31.

      People who are not baptized by the Holy Spirit cannot

      belong to the Assembly of God. Therefore, the baptism

      by the Holy Spirit must take the place when we become

      saved. By the new birth we are born into God's family,

      the Assembly of God.

      The Pentecostal preachers have turned this back to

      front. They say that only those who can speak with

      tongues are baptized by the Holy Spirit, and that the

      gift to speaking with tongues is the only safe sign that

      someone is baptized by the Holy Spirit. This is a

      dangerous denying of a work that Jesus and the Holy

      Spirit have done, and legalization of false speaking with

      tongues. The gift to speaking with tongues is the gift,

      which is easiest to falsify. Anyone can learn something

      of a foreign language and rattle off it in a meeting, so

      that people believe that it is speaking with tongues.

      They have preached that the baptism with the Holy

      Spirit is only for those who are born again. Yet, on the

      day of Pentecost the apostle Peter promised people,

      which were not born again, that they would get the Holy

      Spirit as a gift when they did repent and be baptized in

      the name of Jesus Christ. Consider, that Peter promised

      the Holy Spirit to people who had not been born again!

      And when they received the Holy Spirit, what happened

      then? Well, then they got the new life in Christ and

      became born again! Observe. The Holy Spirit himself is

      the gift, not only the experience of the baptism with the

      Holy Spirit. Gal. 3:14. 1 Thess. 4:8. The Holy Spirit

      gives us the new life in Christ so that we become born

      again.

      When God created the first man, Adam, he breathed

      into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a

      living soul. Genesis 2:7. When Jesus baptizes us by the

      Holy Spirit, it is a new act of creation. The Holy Spirit

      gives us the new life in Christ and we become born again.

      "So then if anyone is in Christ, that one is a new creation;

      the old things have passed away; behold, all things have

      come to be new!" 2 Cor. 5:17. From having been only

      created beings, we become relatives to the Creator.

      Jesus' Father is our Father and we are all brothers and

      sisters in Christ. The Assembly of God is God's family.

      The Pentecostal preachers have all the time preached

      unbelief and enticed many Christians to think that they

      are not baptized by the Holy Spirit only because they do

      not speak in tongues. Yet, those who do not are speaking

      with tongues can have received another gift of grace.

      Because of this false doctrine about the baptism by the

      Holy Spirit, people have not understood the connection

      between the baptism by the Holy Spirit and the new birth.

      They do not understand that it is when Jesus baptizes us

      by the Holy Spirit we get the new life in Christ and we

      become born again. The Holy Spirit gives us the new

      life in Christ and make the new birth. We are born of

      the Spirit. John 3:3-8.

      The baptism by the Holy Spirit

      does not take away the baptism in water

      http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CRISIS.HTM#away

      Why must many Christians wait long time

      for the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE23.HTM

      The Promise of the Spirit that Jesus "forgot"

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE24.HTM

      The Whole Assembly of God

      is Baptized with the Holy Spirit

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE25.HTM

      God's Spirit gives us the new Life in Christ

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE26.HTM

      The spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit are necessary

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE79.HTM

      The restoration of the Assembly of God

      after the great falling away

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PREPARE.HTM#restoration

      Where is Jesus' church?

      Where is the church that Jesus built?

      www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PREPARE.HTM#Where

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