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The Deception of Miracles in the Church System

Updated on February 13, 2017

Confirming the Word

The Bible is full of supernatural acts of God. Lepers were healed on the spot, water was turned to wine, storms were calmed, and the dead were raised back to life just to name a few. These were testaments of divine miraculous healing where medicine, doctors and surgery were not needed. People were healed instantaneously on the spot.

However, many in the modern church system are claiming that there are miraculous acts of divine healing taking place within their doors. All who are sick need to come to them, even if they have to travel long distances to experience a "miracle of God."

The question is, do miracles take place in what is called church today?

Throughout both the Old and New Testaments, God dealt with different groups of people in different ways. The Jews offered up animal sacrifices and observed the Passover and other feasts commanded by God. Upon the resurrection of Christ, the ceremonial laws were done away because their purposes were fulfilled.

In the New Testament, God’s laws and methods changed and transitioned as He turned from dealing with the Jewish people to all men.

A closer Scriptural analyses of the gifts of divine healing and miracles given to man reveal that they had a specific purpose. It was to lay the foundation of the Gospel and to prove and confirm to the Jewish people that the way of Christ was true that thees signs and wonders proved them that they were from God.

Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins – Mark 2:9-10

How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? – Hebrews 2:3-4

The message of God was confirmed by miracles that were performed by Christ and the apostles.

And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen. – Mark 16:20

Purpose to Completion

In Part to Completion

During the transitionary phase coming to the end of the apostolic Age, the word of God was confirmed; therefore, the confirmation of signs, wonders and miracles were no longer needed as their purposes had been fulfilled. It is just like the temple ceremonies, tithes and many of the other traditions had been fulfilled in their purpose and were done away with. That is why we read in Scripture that Paul, Timothy and Trophimus all had infirmities and ailments that could not be divinely miraculously healed at their will.

Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick. – 2 Timothy 4:20

Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. – 1Timothy 5:20

The miracles during the time of the apostles spreading the Gospel message were to confirm that God was with them and to establish the ekklesia. Paul, Trophimus and Timothy did not need miracles and signs to confirm that they had faith in Christ. Upon the establishment of the Gospel, the gift of miracles that was given to them wereno longer needed to confirm their faith and those others. Even though they were they were not healed, their faith remained.

In 1 Corinthians 13:10 it says,

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Paul was saying at the time he wrote 1 Corinthians that they only knew in part because the New Testament scripture was still in its formation. The truth was still in part until the last words of Scripture were written. With the completion of the New Testament, prophecy, tongues, signs and wonders were done away once the testament of the unity of faith was established.

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ – Ephesians 4:11-13

Unity of the faith was perfected with the liberty and inspiration of Christ upon the completion of Scripture.

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. – 1 Corinthians 13:13

Paul was saying that the knowledge of the Son of God was complete. The foundation had been laid and completed. The sign gifts given to the apostles had fulfilled their purpose. If there were more, then there would be additions to faith, hope and charity where there would be a fourth, fifth, sixth, etc. in the above verse. God’s way of dealing with the Jews changed to all people. The divine miracles that were performed confirmed the work of God His word was written. When we read Scripture today, the testament of the sign gifts confirm the written word of God. It is by faith that we believe, even when no sign gift miracles are taking place.

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Supposed Miracle Workers

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

Those that promote miracles for their ministries do not believe what God has said. They are making demands that do not require faith to believe. We don’t need further confirmations because prophecy and the law of liberty has been fulfilled by what Christ has done.

What is interesting is that the divine miracles Christ performed during his time on earth were often attributed to the work of Satan. Even way back in Exodus when Moses performed miracles, the magicians wrought counterfeit enchantments to attempt to mimic the power of God. We are warned in God’s word about miracles in the last days. Today, we see the opposite happening in the harlot church system where the works, or miracles of Satan are being attributed to the work of God.

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast – Revelation 13:14

Many do not understand that Satan can perform miracles and healing too. Christ said that false prophets will rise to deceive with counterfeit signs and wonders. In Acts 13, Elymas was a sorcerer who deceived many people until Paul confronted him and exposed him. Many in the modern church system today are attracted to the workers of Satan who stand upon their platforms bilking people of their money for a lie. They transform themselves into “apostles of Christ” to deceive those who come under their spells.

Why can't people see that all religious heretics have their origins in “miracle” work?

New Age gurus, Charismatics, Mormons, Hinduism, etc. all make claims of divine healing.

Many fall for the latest pied pipers because the manifestation looks like the real thing. An angel of light will do a supposed good thing for an evil purpose, just like Satan who uses Scripture to deceive.

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. – 2 Thessalonians 9-12

Those who partake of the modern church system are deluded. All because someone may seem as sincere and does not make their doctrine right. Saul of Tarsus sincerely and wrongfully believed that he was doing the right thing by persecuting the true followers of Christ.

Unfortunately, God will be judging many who believe they are “in God’s service,” but have refused to hear the truth out of their pride, ignorance and arrogance because they do not want to give up the mammon of their counterfeit ministries.

They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. – John 16:2

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. - Matthew 7:22-23

Faith and Action

You may ask, "If miracles have ceased, then why should we pray for the sick?"

People can be healed without sign gift healing. We see these manifestations every day. We are to pray in faith and do whatever we can to help others. God has given us many things at our disposal including medicine, doctors and many other sources of healing. To neglect these things would be foolish and could bring death. People refuse cures and medicine because they wanted divine healing from God. Out of their pride, they demand a divine miracle from someone, or from God. If they do not get healing, they lose their "faith."

Paul prayed three times to God that the thorn in his side be removed. Although God did not remove it, he said,

And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. – 2 Corinthians 12:9

God may be working in the affliction in our life, or someone else. It does not mean that we do not have enough faith to be healed. God may have a purpose for it, just like Job who suffered greatly even though he had great faith.

God heals, but don’t expect great divine healing that Christ and the apostles did. The sign gifts have ceased. It is faith that requires perseverance. We can pray for healing, but if we don't get instantly healed, we will keep carrying on in our faith. We must keep persevering, not sit around and expect divine healing from someone who makes claim too having the sign gifts.

Today, are we to expect manna to fall from heaven if we need food?

God does not bake our bread, slice and butter it for us, but many supposed healing and miracle ministries promote these things.

Are we to throw away our medicine and Band-Aids away because God is going to divinely heal us because some charlatan says that we are going to be healed.

Do you refuse to go to a doctor for a broken leg and expect the Lord’s divine work to make a spiritual splinter and cast for you?

God expects us to live by faith and act upon it.

Satan expects you to believe in his counterfeit miracles that are happening in the harlot church system with spectacular performances of illusion and deception. Notice how the the church leaders never get off their butts by going out to pray for the sick. They expect the sick to come to them within their buildings. They get the sick hobble upon the stage in front of an audience for a live spectacle to pull on the heart strings of others and then ask for an offering in support of their ministries.

These supposed miracle workers are pompous enough to claim that they have the same power as the Christ and the apostles. When the divine work of Christ was present, there was a one-hundred percent success rate. There was no failure. Today, false prophets will says that you did not have enough faith. They fail to understand that if you are going to claim you have the power of the sign gifts, then they must be in the same power and manifestation as testified in Scripture. Obviously, this is not the case as the miracles that came form God were perfect, complete and instantaneous.

The devil’s work in the harlot church system does not even come close to matching the divine miracles of God.

Satan uses the power of the mind to deceive. When a miracle is claimed performed in the modern church system, it is a counterfeit.

We should believe in praying for the sick, but not negate using medicine and resources God leads us to.

Divine supernatural miracles from the sign gifts ceased when the testament of Scripture was fully written. These miracles were used to confirm the Gospel preached by Christ and the apostles. The supposed miracles we see today by those who claim too have fulfilled sign gifts are the counterfeit paranormal miracles of Satan that were foretold would come.

That Which is Perfect is Come

It is important to understand that all the doctrines in Scripture do not all apply to us today. We cannot just pick and choose from what parts we want. The sign gifts ceased at the end of the apostolic age. The book of Micah tells us how long miracles would continue.

According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. – Micah 7:15

The Israelite's came out of Egypt for about forty years. The “marvellous things" of Christ ceased at the end of the apostolic age that was also around forty years. From the time Christ turned water into wine to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD was forty years. After 70 AD, the sign gifts ceased and the fullness of Scripture became sufficient to fill all of our needs.

We must remember that all believers did not perform miraculous and signs and wonders, even during the time of the apostles. The sign gifts were about confirming the Gospel and the new covenant, it was not specifically about curing physical sickness.

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. – 1 Corinthians 13:10

That which is perfect has come.

Satan is busy enabling his workers to perform counterfeit miracles that defies God's fulfilled work through Christ and the apostles. This should be a clear indication that if you see a man claiming the sign gifts by healing, or doing any other sign and wonder, that it is not from God.

The Bible says that sincere men who pray, preach and shout God’s name can minister deception under the power of the devil. True ministers of God do not have the gift of healing. The more prayer, shouting, praising and hype will not change this truth. Do not be deceived by their claims in supporting their for-profit businesses as the source of truth.

We should pray for the sick ,just as we should take everything and submit them to God through Christ in prayer. We should pray for our daily bread and use the means God has given us to get it. We should pray for healing for the sick and rely on the resources God has given us.

We don’t pray for bread and expect Him to bake it in heaven and rain it down upon us do we?

We pray for bread, and in faith go out and get some. We must pray for the salvation of souls, but we still must get off our butts by going out to reach the hurt and the lost.

The Foundation has been Laid.

It is through Christ that God has fulfilled His purposes. The sign gifts were intended to lay the foundation for the ekklesia, the Gospel and to confirm that the miracles of Christ and the apostles were genuinely from God. The record has been written. To demand divine supernatural healing from a man who claims to have obtained the sign gifts from is the same as saying that you do not have faith in God's word and thus require additional confirmation of your faith by someone performing a supposed sign gift miracle for you.

Many are deceived many into the false movement experiential Christianity that entertains the doctrine of demons. They are seduced the into believing that the paranormal manifestations conducted by the workers of Satan are from God. Satan wants you to keep asking God to confirm the things that have already have been affirmed and fulfilled through Christ and the apostles. This is why there are so many counterfeit miracles being performed by the workers of deceit to draw you into their false religion experiential Christianity. Feelings have replaced faith and the word of God. Do not believe any man who claim to be an Apostle with sign gifts who recklessly promotes their miracle ministries.

When the nine spiritual gifts were being utilized (Acts 4:16), even the enemies of Christ could not deny that his miracles were genuine.

The ekklesia of Christ today do not need divine supernatural miracles of the sign gifts to affirm their faith. Their faith is in the confirmed Gospel that is testifies in Scripture by what Christ and the apostles did.

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      PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ


      I am glad you got healed. Please read my comment to Disappearinghead above.

      ("He is the same yesterday, today and forever, and He changes not!")

      Referencing Hebrews 13:8 in the context of miracles of healing is a misapplication of the verse. I suggest reading chapters 11-13 and it should become clear that this verse is about FAITH. Hebrews 13:8 is about the character of Jesus Christ, which does not change, which is the theme of the chapter. Jesus Christ was the example of having FAITH in his Father. Our FAITH in him should produce the same as we walk in obedience to Him now and forever.

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      SimplyI 3 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      Without going to any special churches, teachers, healers or meetings, I was healed 2 times. Both times surgery (according to few specialists including surgeons) was inevitable, but I refused it. Once I refused scheduling it, the other time I cancelled because I got healed meanwhile.

      I will praise Him forever for these miracles of healing in my life. No one can take it away from me, regardless what they say or believe. He is sovereign always and over all. There is nothing impossible for Him. He is the same yesterday, today and forever, and He changes not!

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      Michael-Milec 4 years ago

      Hi planksandnails.

      Interesting, quite informative read, including comments . Would have more benefitial affect when/if every " regenerated " person - the redeemed - would be speaking under the same anointing. In such case the " world" - meaning sinners , would have a chance as well as "Christians " to be properly informed. So far mostly " we " are exposing personal opinions/belief/ persvaisions based upont translation of the Scripture available, well meaning , well prepared contributions - which in many cases turns out to be something else as originally meant to be. Important is though, the God knows intentions of each heart, and only if do not deter anyone away from the kingdom of God and the path of righteousness ; the rewards are distributed by God at the end anyway.

      Voted interesting .

      May Jesus' blessings be upon you.

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      graceinus 4 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

      PandN- Yes; you did answer my question. Thank you very much.

      Many blessings to you.

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      PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ


      Your question:

      (“I am wondering isn't many if not all of the healings that Jesus did included in what is referred to as works?”)

      When we read John 14:12, Jesus was referring to his apostles and giving them assurance that even though He was physically leaving, God would attend to their ministry with demonstrations of His power. That was to whom the audience Jesus was speaking to at the time, not those who are now in the Church age.

      Did the Apostles do greater works than Jesus Christ if we define it as miracles? Is there written proof in Scripture? If these greater “works” are not found by them, then it probably means something other than divine miracles.

      Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. – John 14:12

      Greater in Greek is meizon, which means to a greater degree. Works in Greek is ergon, which means to work and toil as an act of labor. The labor would be in greater degree that would follow into the extensive ministry of the Apostles.

      The Greek word used for miracles is semeion, which means evidence of a divine commission, or an attestation of a divine message, which is not used in John 14:12.

      The Apostles did not exceed the miracles of Jesus, nor do Christians have the ability to produce the miraculous power of the Apostles. Paul said that not all have these giftings (1 Corinthians 12:29-30).

      In contrast, Jesus performed miracles (semeion) that exceeded Moses and the Prophets. The Apostles did greater works (meizon ergon) as Jesus prophesied by carrying the Gospel to the ends of the earth from Jerusalem. They went to the Gentiles who were saved in greater numbers than Jesus did when He was here on earth (Acts). The Church ministry we share today is not limited to one person (Jesus) in one location, but the Church can preach throughout all the world empowered by the Holy Spirit. I believe the greater works is the Great Commission.

      The works by Jesus Christ was preaching about the kingdom of God. As He preached divine miracles followed Him. His whole ministry on earth was to point to and fulfill the ONLY name by which we can enter into God’s kingdom.

      And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. – Luke 10:9

      This verse was part of the commission He gave His 72 follower to go out and preach the Gospel with miraculous power and divine protection, and when they came back they attested to the authority they had in His name. In contrast to the mission of the seventy-two, the Apostles were tortured and martyred for preaching the Good News.

      The works that Jesus did had an effect on people. The manifestation of the kingdom of God was there for those to experience in the midst of Him while He was on earth and the divine miracles proved that He was the real and genuine Son of God.

      The modern “church” focuses on miracles, but if they focused on the "works" He has commissioned us out to do, there would be more successful converts to Jesus Christ than "church" members wanting to see “miracles” in a building run by salaried clergy.

      I'm not sure if that answers your question.

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      graceinus 4 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

      PanN- To explain or confirm in my comment above I direct your attention to Luke10: 9 which states "And heal the sick there and say to them; the Kingdom of God has come near to you."

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      graceinus 4 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

      PandN- I am wondering isn't many if not all of the healings that Jesus did included in what is referred to as works? I also believe the works by Jesus was not limited to just healing but everything related to his entire ministry of the Kingdom of God. There is no sickness in the Kingdom of God which is one reason He healed.

      I would also mention that Jesus did not heal anyone unless He was asked. And most often He would always ask (them)" do you have faith." Because Jesus could not heal anyone who had unbelief.

      Looking forward to your opinion.


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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you very much.

      God bless.

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      PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ


      You are certainly free to use the information and link it for your endeavours. God Bless.

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      PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ


      Don't get me going on Benny Hinn!

      He claimed that the dead were going to be resurrected by tuning the TV to TBN.

      "People are going to be cancelling funeral services, and bringing their dead in caskets, placing God I feel the annointing here! Placing them before a television set...waiting for God's power to come through and touch them..."

      Unfortunately, many are decieved and buy the wares and snake oils from these type of men.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      PlanksandNails can I have your permission to put this hub on my favorites list. I am not going to copy it in any way. I am just going to mark it, so I can read it several times. There is so much important information in it.

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      PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ


      Joel Osteen sells spritual cotton candy and junk-food theology to his followers. There is absolutely no discernment in his teachings; they are riddled with doctrinal error. If you want to eat sweets and have your ears tickled, then Joel is your man. It's all feel goods without bringing up repentence for your sins. Instead, you have positive motivational affirmation and creative visualisation, which is no different than new age teaching and practices. Mega-churches are simply filled with tares, which are the precursors to the one-world religion. Joel Osteen, Rick Warren and Oprah Winfrey are all birds of a feather. Unfortunately, many who call themselves Christians have a shallow understanding of God's Word and the result is the mass acceptence of syncretism, which is an attempt to blend in false religious practices with Christianity.

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      PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ


      Thank-you for commenting on this controversial topic.

      I understand that there are many who will disagree with me. All I can do is state my position and apply Scriptural with context to the best of my understanding and answer the questions and comments that are posed.

      “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father. – John 14:12

      Jesus did not say that we would do greater miracles, but greater works. We certainly do see greater works as the missionary activity of the Good News has spread throughout the world. In the way you interpret this verse, it follows that in order to be a believer, all who are saved must perform miracles. If not, they are unbelievers. Do you perform miracles?

      Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. – James 5:14-16

      Of course we are to pray for healing in faith to the Lord for His means of healing to manifest in that person. If the person is healed it is an answer to prayer, not a divine miracle as Jesus and the Apostles performed. Have you seen a limb grow back by elders anointing somebody with oil?

      God providing for my needs when I pray to Him is an answer to prayer. The distinction I would make between an answered prayer and divine miracles is that the dead are not being raised who have been dead for some time, limbs are not growing back, paralytics are not jumping out of their wheel-chairs, etc… Real miracles in the Bible could not be disproved because it was immediate and verifiable, not like the false healings from those who claim internal problems, which are out of sight. Jesus and Peter walked on water. Jesus and the Apostles raised dead corpses. Big distinction don’t you think?

      The Bible tells us the purpose of divine miracles was to confirm the Word.

      How shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was ATTESTED to us by those who heard, while God also BORE WITNESS by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. – Hebrews 2:3-4

      The purpose of divine miracles confirmed the teachings of Jesus Christ. Scripture reveals that there are only two ways to possessing the gift of miracles. One is a direct act of God by His Holy Spirit and the second is by the laying of hands by the Apostles.

      Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. Now when Simon saw that THE SPIRIT WAS GIVEN THROUGH THE LAYING ON OF THE APOSTLES’ HANDS, he offered them money, saying, “Give me this power also, so that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” – Acts 8:17-19

      There is no case even today where anyone besides the Apostles have the power to impart the gift to perform divine miracles. Scripture attests that the Apostles were involved when someone received the gift of miraculous power.

      The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with utmost patience, with signs and wonders and mighty works. – 2 Corinthians 12:12

      These signs Paul was talking about have been accomplished because their purposes have been fulfilled. We have the completeness of Gods will (2 Timothy 3:16-17) with no further revelation and eye- witness testimony because their purposes have been accomplished. The temporary gifts were needed because Scripture was still incomplete. Now that it is complete, there is no need to re-deliver spiritual gifts again today. It should be obvious that the “miracles” people are defending today in the modern “church” in no way resemble the perfect miracles performed by Jesus and the Apostles.

      Matthew 12 rebukes those who want miracles today because they are not satisfied with the miracles God has done.

      All believers today have the same grace of Jesus Christ in them equally. God is not a respecter of persons and does not dispense special miraculous powers to some and others not because He loves them more. The Apostles had these gifts because they did not have the completed Scriptures. God’s only impartiality today is whether or not we are accepted by Him (Acts 10:34-35). Additionally, it is contrary to the record of Scripture that healings were accomplished constantly by all believers.

      Denying divine miracles today does not deny God’s power to do them. There are things that God is doing now that is different from what He did in the past. Those who insist on miracles are denying God’s will for today.

      I would like to make it clear that what I reject in the modern “church” today is the belief that God channels his power through special gifted miracle workers and healers.

      There is a distinction between the temporary sign gifts and the revelatory gifts that have ceased with the gifts of ministry that remain today. The Apostolic miracles pointed to the Apostles as true witnesses of Jesus Christ. The signs ceased once the substance to which they pointed to was given to the Church.

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      William Kovacic 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      @Michele, It should scare you.

      PnN, Another well done thorough hub. Perhaps I shouldn't have, but I had to laugh at the picture of Benny Hinn. You got the caption right, too!

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      There are a lot of mega-churches today. The ones on TV that just want money. There is one in particular ( at least this is what I think) that is kind of scary. It is run by Joel Osteen. He preaches about money. He tells people money is a blessing from God, and that people should pray for money. He is also millions of dollars. I don't know, but watching him preach kind of scares me.

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      Disappearinghead 4 years ago from Wales, UK

      First of all let me state that I have no regard whatsoever for the faith healing charlatans that peddle their ministries throughout America today.

      What you present here is your own interpretation of the bible and there are very many others who will disagree with you, they see the bible differently. The NT does not explicitly state anywhere that miracles were done away with after the apostles died off.

      What are you going to do with verses such as:

      John 14:12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

      James 5:14-16 Is anyone among you ill? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.

      Neither Jesus nor James set a time limit on devine healing here and nothing Paul says can be considered to supersede these statements.

      I do not disagree with you that the Church today is full of charlatans, the misguided, and the plain stupid. I do not believe for a minute that any of these superstar preachers are exercising any authority from the Father. What appear to be healings I'm sure are merely psychosomatic; the release of endorphins in the brain in the euphoric mind state that is a natural pain reliever; or the release of adrenaline which is confused with being filled with the holy spirit. The apparent anointing that these preachers have with is no different to the psychological tricks performed by entertainers such as Derren Brown. But none of this precludes the possiblity that miracles can and do occur today for whatever purpose the Father might have.

      If you are going to say that the healing miracles of Jesus are finished, then you must also say the same about 'deliverance from demons'. Just as nobody gets divinely healed of cancer, then nobody gets delivered from demonic possession either. You cannot have your cake and eat it. As a side I do not believe Jesus ever delivered anyone from a demon, but that he healed them of mental illnesses which are a result of brain chemistry and structure, that were attributed to demons.