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That Old Serpent the Devil - Lucifer

Updated on August 11, 2019
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Sometimes writers distance themselves from religious subjects when writing. Religion is still taboo to speak about. Read about it instead.

Forenotice

Many people out there consider religion a collection of the best fiction-promoting institutions because it, religion, enslaves its acolytes such that it usurps any social progress that could occur otherwise. That may be true. Believing as I am, I am no intellectual promoting apologetic reasoning for faith and religion.

Look at the comments following the religious articles on the web. One group calling another group apostate because of one reason or another is another way to divide humanity against the very tenets of many faiths! Jesus commands us to be of one faith. When all the Christians can follow that one, God can mobilize His force to take the Gospel to the other part of humanity who do not have it yet.

Unequivocally, I profess that God lives. In admitting my witness, I do not deny science or reason. Science supports my faith. God is the Great Scientist and Philosopher. We are created in His image and are His children, which is why we have the capacity to create. We inherit it from Him. I speak to Him often. He speaks to me more than I do to Him! If that labels me insane, then I must be certified.

LUCIFER!!

At least this is what people think he looks like because of what he represents. EVIL!
At least this is what people think he looks like because of what he represents. EVIL! | Source

Of course, I do not think that Lucifer actually looks like a human Symbiote (Spiderman reference, Ha!) with bat wings. However, understanding this reference to the Symbiote helps divulge Lucifer's personality, something we must understand in order to avoid him. The Symbiotes envelop a host--completely surrounding the flesh of the body from head to toe. The host-person and the creature create a bond where the creature strengthens the host and influences his or her mind until it completely takes over. The strength is a ruse. It is no substitute for stealing the host’s consciousness and body.

Though Lucifer is no thing, he has the same intentions as that Symbiote. He seizes the person he wants to claim and whispers suggestions in his or her ear with the intention of destroying his or her chances to become like God. I say seize, which seems so violent, but I should say approaches with invitation. I wanted to use the word seize because the result of an encounter with him always ends negatively for both!

In his encounter with Adam and Eve, Lucifer was very effective in gaining the audience of Mother Eve. He had lost the war in heaven, well, the first battle; and he sought… he went seeking ways to take advantage of his new situation. If I can say one thing about this being, Satan, he is nothing if not persistent.

Not This Lucifer

Looks Better Though! This series follows Lucifer, the original fallen angel, who has become dissatisfied with his life in hell. After abandoning his throne and retiring to Los Angeles.... I do not recommend the show
Looks Better Though! This series follows Lucifer, the original fallen angel, who has become dissatisfied with his life in hell. After abandoning his throne and retiring to Los Angeles.... I do not recommend the show | Source

Even before the world began, a great war in heaven commenced between the forces of good and evil. That war rages today ever more fiercely. Satan is still the captain of the hosts of evil. He is still tempting us just as he did Moses, saying, “Son of man, worship me.” 1

As Satan, as we refer to him sometimes, found himself cast down on the earth with his followers with no way to progress further as spirits having rebelled against the Father of Heaven and trying to justify the rebellion in a war.

With no chance of winning, and no future worth discussing, Satan modified the war by using the veil of forgetting to win acolytes of Adam and Eve and entice them away from eternal happiness. Each person born has a veil placed upon his or her minds. I know it sounds strange, but God blessed all humanity with forgetting their lives in heaven with Him so that we can make choices based on our personality and experiences rather than a memory of being in glory.

The All-Knowing Lucifer?

Satan remembers the discussions Heavenly Father presided over as Jesus Christ (Jehovah) revealed the details of the Plan of Salvation vividly to us. He did not forget. In other articles, I mention that we lived in heaven before we were born on earth--all of us. Lucifer, like all of us, lived in the presence of God as His child before he rebelled. God cast Lucifer and his followers down to Earth without the opportunity to be born as a punishment for rebellion.

Satan knows about The Plan of Salvation.

God provided Adam and Eve as a means for all of His children in heaven to receive physical bodies through natural birth.

He knew there would be a veil on the minds of humanity to forget heaven. Lucifer knew that Adam and Eve would fall, bringing in death to humanity, though at the time Jehovah explained The Plan, Satan did not estimate to be an actor in that drama.

The dark one remembered they would learn about Jesus Christ's atonement, which would nullify the effects of death and provide an opportunity for humanity to have physical bodies again following mortal death through Jesus's resurrection.

Satan knew that the atonement would give humanity choice without consequences of disobedience if they repented. He knew if humanity gave over to unrepentant disobedience suffering would be the reward of the wicked. However, even those people suffering would only give him temporary satisfaction until the resurrection.

How did he know those things? Again, Jehovah revealed the entire Plan of Salvation to all of us before anyone was born or cast out of heaven.

Satan determined to stop the plan in its tracks after the Lord cast him and his angels to the Earth! He would persuade the first man and woman to betray God! THERE! There he would find his weapon of retaliation against his Father in Heaven.

He knew they could choose to follow The Plan or not follow it. He remembers everything! He did not forget the teaching of The Plan to us in heaven, but humanity did forget.

Remembering the histories of the nations of the world as they really occurred and not the piecemeal recorded in the books of history gives Satan a weapon of deceit like no other. He also remembers our personal histories as they are. Many of us have hidden things even from ourselves that Satan can recall and use against us along with his minions who for some reason continue to service his pugnacity.

No, Satan is not an all-knowing being. He just did not forget what we all learned in heaven together.

Summation

Satan is so good at his job of deceiving the world because he and his minions do not forget. They have no purpose but to count down the time until Jesus comes again and bind them for one thousand years. In the interim, they intend to deceive as many of us who will allow it before that time.

What are we supposed to do? Be aware. Christians and Muslims have no excuse for being deceived since we are aware that the devil is working against our happiness. We may differ on how big his role is in our lives, but we are assured by Christ and the Koran that the devil is real. It is our purpose to then warn the rest of humanity.

The sad thing about warning the world about the invisible devil who wants to swallow the souls of humans in misery is it sounds like a cautionary tale to frighten people into doing what is right. It does. There then comes the choice each of us has to heed the warning and act accordingly or disregard it as a great fiction that billions believe to have something to blame for the inadequacies in our lives. If it rings true to you, seek for more understanding in study.

The voice in the back of your Mind Says Participate!

Satan desires to lure us away from doing well by appealing to our baser nature. Do you think you will be more aware of his attempts with You now?

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James E. Faust -The Enemy Within 1

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    • Rodric29 profile imageAUTHOR

      Rodric Anthony 

      3 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      Tou are NOT swine. That is not what I intended if that was your understanding of what i attempted to say. I am ha0y to relate my rebirth into Christ but it will not reflect your estimation here.

      Christ is not on of many, but He is the First if many. Also, I see pride in me. I will share my story right here as you did. My Master was beaten and crucified for sharing His life. Who am I to balk at a location on rhe web?

      I am out now at a doctors office and will share later

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      3 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, You could send a message directly to me with the postings where you talk about your rebirth just to allow me to understand. If one is pleased with their rebirth's results they will gladly speak about it to others, once reborn one doesn't call any man swine for as Jesus also said, sow your seeds on every soil and allow the conditions too determine the outcome of the seeds. That's what I do and has never been hut because of it.

      The Bible (Isaiah 11:1-12) gives us two Jesus' to come during this civilization, the one who brought the gospel called Jesus and the one who will manifest the gospel and bring this world to a short peace before "the battle of that great day of God almighty". The "Rod" from Jesse's stem Jesus said he will and prepare a place for us reborn qualified (wise virgins and bridegroom - "Branch" Jesus) who enters Armageddon for protection from the battled (Rev. 16:13-16) that ends civilization.

      Because you said "Jesus is not one of many [man]" it means you know not the gospel the "Rod" Jesus brought especially since the Bible indicates this "world" repeats itself like the cycles of "seasons, days and years" in Genesis 1:14 and in Ecclesiastes 1:9 & 3:1-8 with Revelation 21 being the alternate evening (Gen. 1:5) to this world which is the morning. Rev 21 is the evening because it has no sun (v:23) while this world is the morning because it has a sun (Gen. 1:14). What that means is every time this world comes to is called the AD (After Death) of Jesus a different "Rod" Jesus will appear and as this world ends a different "Branch" Jesus will follow him as this "morning" world ends to return the evening world; so why isn't Jesus two of many?

    • Rodric29 profile imageAUTHOR

      Rodric Anthony 

      3 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      I have spoken about my rebirth on the web before. In this situation, it seems as though I would not be putting my pearls in the best possible light as this seems more confrontational than sharing.

      My testimony is special to me and sacred. As often as I share it online, it seems as though this is the wrong environment or situation to so share. Coming to Christ began with me as a child and has yet to stop. My rebirth is an ongoing process that I assume will end with my mortal life. One day I will be able soon to share the specifics of it, but not attached to this article.

      Jesus is not one of many men, but a God among men who gave His life as a ransom for the sins of humankind and His life for the price of those sins so that we can all repent be of what religion we may.

      That price gives us the ability to seek redemption starting from the first humans until the last, infinite and eternal atonement.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, you gave me nothing to support your birth, every man's rebirth will follow the example of the natural birth per Romans 1:20, so if you can't give me a testimony of your rebirthing then I can not believe you are born again.

      The path to rebirth for every man, including Jesus', are a billion or more incarnations long although Jesus' didn't require a rebirthing since an holy ghost (whole man able to do what Jesus demonstrated) came to Mary caused her conception therefore he didn't require one.

      My family is the family of man, all man are my brothers and sisters from conception until discarnating, after my new conception I showed those I limitedly called family were warned that I was going to obey the literal teachings of the Christ and especially my wife was welcome's to come but she rejected it and neither of us are sorry because of it.

      Peace

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      Rodric Anthony 

      4 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      I do know the Spirit of God. My rebirth happened at 15 years old in 1992 when I had my first interview with God. He visited me, in spirit, but a visit none the less. He told me over time to marry and have children and repent of my sins each day.

      I hope that you do not think I am questioning your integrity, your walk with God. How could I? Your path leads you to God, all of us will go down a path that leads to God, though some paths will be shorter than others.

      I am sorry for your family. In my faith, God wants us to take our famlies with us if they will follow. I sorrow that you walked alone. It is not good for man to be alone.

      I am not a child in spirit anymore. Your honesty is humbling. I humbly submit that I am spiritually fully grown. I know God and what He expects from me. He holds me accountable for what I do with my knowledge. I not successful or important at worldly things. I am a husband and a father, the two greatest gifts God shares with men.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, everyone who Spirit called is called to become "sons god", thus, we are expected to "comprehend and exceed the ability of all things on earth" as dominion is defined. That is why when we are "Born Again" we see life far differently than those who aren't. The messiah's entire message to everyone is to become born again because we are to god what tadpoles are to frogs, the incomplete product we are on earth to become. I have a hub "Why Be Born Again?" that explains it.

      I am NOT talking about something I haven't done, I was spiritually conceived between September and October 1973 and gestated in spirit until I was born August 6, 1976 when I walked away from my job (bit.ly/elijahbirth is my testimony) and became a nomad three weeks later when I walked away from my wife and after over 40 years reborn I'm still an adolescent. So until you can explain to me your conception, gestating, birth and how long you have been and what are some of the things you've done since your birth we are talking two different languages (Isaiah 28:9-13).

      Everything I write about is what I've done or revealed since my rebirth. So yes, the scriptures does tell us how in these last days many will prophesy like many Blues, Rock and Roll, Country and most other musics are prophecies for those who have ears to hear. Most religious songs are not inspiring us to follow the Messiah as I have, they are Laodicean (Rev. 3:14-18) in nature.

      You can tell me about the prophets you know but do you know "The spirit of God" is what I want to know.

      Peace.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      4 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      Elijah, I see your point. It is true in these last days that every one that is able will have the gift of prophecy, even the unbelievers will prophesy without knowing.

      The men that I mentioned are true prophets. Also, I know God. I know Him as well as a son can know his Father because we talk often enough.

      Other people can speak with Him too, which is why I know that we all can know the same information if we ask Him, independently of each other.

      God is not some mystical being. He wants to be known, to reveal Himself to each of us. He is only a mystery to those who do not seek Him. Many of us do not seek Him because we fear to know too much.

      When we truly know God, His appearance will be the least of our thoughts. It is the connection that we have with Him through His Holy Spirit that will concern us.

      I know Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer because of His love for me. It is personal and intimate. Our relationship is not one to show proof to the world that Jesus Exists, but that He paid for my transgressions so I can repent.

      I am not called to testify of His resurrection, but the prophets that I mention are. Seek them out and see if you learn something.

      I am no prophet. I am a simple man of faith, a sinner who falls daily and is raised daily to a Saint through the atonement of Jesus Christ. That is the resurrection I can testify of with billions of others who experience it.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, Which of those are in what Malachi calls "his temple" and what is it since that is the place where world peace will be brought into place? Which one fit the multitude of description my "The Messiah We Seek" and not presented there reveals?

      I know many who have given prophecies that has come to pass but they don't fit the description the Bible and other religions reveals he is to look like. What makes prophets a prophet is that what they reveal comes to pass, plus the Bible does say "your sons and daughters will prophesy" but that doesn't make them the messiah we seek because it happened. So, I agree with you god is not "quiet", god is using many to open the eyes of those IT chose to survive this world's end which I interpret to be around 2028 and if my interpretation is correct that also makes me a prophet. Therefore, just because you know some prophets it doesn't mean you know the Messiah.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      4 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      I submit that I am aware of at least 15 prophets. President Russell M. Nelson is a prophet and steward of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He along with 14 men claim to be prophets, seers, and revelators. Also, there are several quorums of Seventy who are considered prophets. God is not a quiet person.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, no one is rot know who trifle last days prophet is until he suddenly appears in his temple {Malachi 3:1}, many can clam to be him and/or the Christ but only he/they know who he/they is/are. Those who can interpret prophecy may gauss upon who he/they is/are but will not know for sure until he is in place.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      4 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      That one is easy, Elijah. God is not a mute. He still speaks to prophets today. I would gather that you think this being that you are a prophet of sorts from what I have read of you.

      We obey Jesus Christ's teachings. If the Lord wants to change something He always calls a prophet and invites His people to accept it through them. He gives us a witness of the truthfulness of that prophet's word through the Holy Ghost. It is our responsibility to be spiritually aware enough to hear God's word and recognize it from any source.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, there are several commandments god gave to man, the first was in Genesis 1:26-29 paraphrased says "multiply and replenish the earth, exceed the ability of the earth and everything hereon {dominion's definition} and to eat from where you find them berries, fruit, grains, nuts and vegetation."

      In Genesis 2 man are told to eat from the trees BUT die if you eat "the knowledge of good and evil" and to leave parents to cleve to our spouse and each {Yan and Yin attribute} one shall become one in both gender's flesh.

      Those two were before man ate NOT the forbidden but the KILLING fruit that was killing their dominion powers. Then after the garden the boys were commanded to til the earth fighting thorns and thistles while the girls were to be increase in child birthing sorrows and their desire be for their husband. and upon exiting the garden everyone are told we must go through the flame {mind purifying fire} sword {to be cut away from all attachments} and begin ecological living as before and in the garden.

      Then there were many rituals commanded to be obeyed, the10, and many others after the them. So, which of those commandments go god are you talking about because after the ten god gave the command to slay man and animal in Canaan that opposed "kill not" in the 10. Then after Jesus god commanded Peter not to call anything god made unclean when in tgfhe wilderness they were given a list of unclean animals. So which ofc those c commandments are we to follow?

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      Rodric Anthony 

      4 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      No, Elijah. disagreeing with your interpretation is not denying God's word. Are you declaring that your interpretation is the correct one and I am deceived? If so, that is a possibility that I will humbly admit can happen, though I doubt it.

      To trust in the Lord and lean not to our own understanding is to prayerfully listen to the whisperings of His Holy Spirit and not our own imaginings and foibles in thinking.

      Unrighteousness is clearly defined in the scriptures and can be felt by those sensitive to the Spirit of God. Violating any of the commands of God is unrighteous, which is why we have repentance through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Since we all sin, it is our faith in the restoring power of God through Jesus Christ that justifies us before the Lord, if we are humble enough to continuously work on our imperfections as followers of Christ.

      I do not know what you made of my words, but we are to judge. We are not to make eternal judgments. I cannot say that you are going to hell or heaven. I cannot make that judgment. What I can judge is as far as I can see, you are keeping these commandments that I know. You are on the path to Christ. Or, you are breaking these commandments that I know. That is a path away from Christ. I cannot know if someone is evil just because I see his or her evil. As you say, I can only see what is in front of me. Some people's evil can also be felt, and the Spirit can affirm darkness there.

      It is evil to kill children, I can make the judgment. If it is God's will that they die, His Spirit reveals the truth to all who willing seeks it. Otherwise, we can judge that killing children is evil, for example.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Are you saying, Rodric, what is considered "God's Word" is not saying what god intended for it to and/or are you saying you don't understand "God's Word" and/or what your teachers teaches you it means is the only truth? The Bible does say "trust in the lord and lean not to your own understanding" and Isaiah 28:9-13 tells us how, so that means to me you are denying god's word.

      Show what "unrighteous" is, to say that is a judgment must mean any judgement that is not revealing the "strait way with the narrow gate" is what I must suppose Jesus meant. That is why god's name means I AM THAT I AM, because god is both halves that man judges one half one thing and the other half something else and not what the WHOLE'S nomenclature say it is.

      How can anyone judge anyone else's reward when most, if not all, of us don't know what that reward is except everlasting life which few can explain what that means. Therefore, we should say "what's said is what's said" and not good nor evil, it them becomes our place to seek proof that it is what's said or not there real our reasoning as to why I say it is something other than what you, so ago speak, say.

      Once a man is spiritually conceived even b before being "Born Again" the vail begin to lift, the longer we've gestated the more it lifts until one has gone through the birth, babyhood, childhood, adolescence and finally and adult and still it lifts more AFTER ADULTHOOD.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      4 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      God is the source of all things ultimately since nothing exists without God's will. Though like any good parent He is the source of the creation of His children, He is not the source of His children's penchant for evil. Just as He Has a choice to be the good that He is, we inherit that same choice. Satan decided to rebel against God because it was in him that he knew better than God.

      Arrogance is the devil's choice. He inherited knowledge from God with the influence to convince others of his wisdom. He deceived himself into thinking that he would do things better than God could.

      God knew that would happen and it all played into His plan for all of His children, including Satan.

      Jesus taught us not to make unrighteous judgments, but we are to judge each day. We judge what we read, what we eat, with whom we associate. and much more. We judge if a person is a good singer, or if he or she is a good friend, or teaches the truth about God.

      What we are not suppose to judge is a person's eternal reward. We cannot determine if he or she will go to heaven no matter how vile he or she may be without knowing all their heart. God knows our hearts and can give power to His servants to know the hearts of people when necessary. We cannot judge a person's eternal salvation without becoming like Satan, or in other words, thinking we know as well or better than what God knows.

      I have thought about what you said Elijah. I agree with you about the veil on our minds. Once it is lifted we will be surprised at how well we know God's face, and each other--countless billions of us as brothers and sisters.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      4 months ago from Washington DC

      Rodric, upon reading Isaiah 45:7's "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do [through us] all these things", understood what "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" implies and Jehovah is defined "I AM THAT I AM" I say both god and satan are fruit of "the knowledge of good and evil" tree meaning it is a knowledge without anything to substantiate it.

      What Isaiah 45:7 says with my insert is everything is within god and therefore god is the one doing it. That's like saying every organ in your body is you and works because it is within your body although it can be removed, preserved for a time and later transplanted into another body and still function if properly connected. But because man rejects half of everything by calling one half good and the other evil, or any of the many judgmental adjective pairs, we cling to the one we call positive and reject the one we call negative which vails our minds from seeing the whole picture, only our preferred judge halve.

      Jesus told us "judge not" for when we do we are judging ourselves, as I paraphrased the other part. What he was saying is when we judge we are preventing ourselves from understanding the cause, effects and consequences of our actions which is the cause of our misery and ill health because our preferences prohibit us from obtaining something needed to maintain ourselves eternally. That means our minds died because of judging and our bodies will discarnate from na lack of the proper intake and care necessary for sustaining ourselves. However, the "vail" over our minds was put there so we would experience all of the emotions man have individually and all combinations of them before having it lifted for us to enter everlasting life.

      Think on these things, Rodric.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      3 years ago from Peoria, Arizona

      You may not agree with my view of the way things transpired, but you have not pointed out anything, which makes me believe you did not read it really. My perspective violates nothing. God is in control. If you read through the article He is always in control of what happens. He knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would do the things they did and provided a Savior for that very purpose. God is everywhere in influence, but not in person. We are created in His image. God is not some wisp of smoke or cloud of vapor. He is a person that reveals Himself to the people that love Him so that, as Jesus taught, we may know Him and be one with Him like Jesus and the Father are one--in purpose. God is not a tree, He is ALWAYS God.

      The fact that God is in control covers what He knows and His level of power.

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      Enoch 

      3 years ago

      What a crock of bull. This perspective violates all 4 attributes of the Almighty:

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      Sovereignty (God is in control.)

      Omnipresent (God is everywhere.)

      Omniscient (God knows everything.)

      Omnipotent (God is all powerful.)

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      Rodric Anthony 

      3 years ago from Peoria, Arizona

      You have a valid point. You have expressed why you disagree and I appreciate that.

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      charlie 

      3 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

      as I said this is FALSE DOCTRINE from the mind of satan and is not of God. It does not belong under the Christian heading. No Real Christian wants hear what you of your false prophet joseph smith believe, we only care what God believes. Your beliefs have NO eternal value

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      Rodric Anthony 

      3 years ago from Peoria, Arizona

      Dear readers

      I did not use any scriptures to support my article. This article is based on my personal beliefs and does not speak for the church organization of which I am a member.

      All of you arguement celafoe are interesting points. I do not agree with your assessment. I do not accept only what has been revealed in the Bible, but also what is listed in the Doctrine & Covenants, the Book of Moses, the Book of Abraham and the Book of Mormon. All of my scriptural evidence supports your assessment being incorrect and mine being correct.

      I also support modern or new revelation. I am not limited by just one source of information when it comes to supporting my claims, though I do not think I have tried to support anything. I actually believe what I write. I am not looking for support from a book.

      I did not say that anyone had to believe what I wrote. If it make sense to you, then believe it. If it does not don't. I could care less if people believed it as I do, but I don't. I would be flattered though if someone did believe the same as I do. This existence is supposed to be freedom of religion though not all nations practice that.

      KingdomCome, yes. I am from the group that believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers. If fact, I believe that you and Satan are brothers (of if you are female his sister). We are all children of God. That makes us brothers whether we are evil or not.

      Feel free to read my articles. I have many that explain why I believe the way I do.

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      KingdomCome 

      3 years ago from those of the Ecclesia

      This is the same church which has the false doctrine that Jesus Christ and satan are brothers. I never have trusted the mormon church and it's false doctrine.

      celafoe- I agree with you completely.

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      charlie 

      3 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

      Typical bunch of hogwash from one of the chuches of men. These apostate churches, most denominations, mormons and other cults controlled by and taught by apostate men that just do not understand

      the scriptures that they hijack and apply as they see fit in their attempts to be seen as Christian, which they are not.

      Proof of this lies in the way they use bible verses. They do not understand that their bible is not the scripture, but is a translation from the original language into their language. They also do not understand

      how to read and properly understand the truths contained therein. The chapter subheading in your bible translations are not part of scripture as they are the OPINIONS of the translators and most are incorrect do not rely on them.

      One of the most important rules of using scripture correctly is to be sure of the CONTEXT OF THAT MATERIAL.

      That is why it is dangerous and foolish to rely on their hireling pastors or what ever they call them, to teach you.

      You must study for yourself to prove or disprove what you are being taught.

      1. if you read and understand the scriptures correctly by using the full context of the passage you will see the the person referred to in Isaiah 14:12 as Lucifer is NOT SATAN but in fact is the king of babylon, see Isaiah 14:4 which is part of the context and clearly states this.

      2. If you correctly understand scripture you know that the book of Revelation comes long after Isaiah and therefore cannot fit as used by these false Satan has not been kicked out of heaven yet.

      3. You would also know that any angels that Jude 12 the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day. Also see Jude 6

      There is no need to look at the rest of this article as it is clearly shown to be an invention of the mind of man and cannot be supported by scripture as IT IS FALSE DOCTRINE IN ITS ENTIRETY and should be discarded.

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