- Religion and Philosophy
The Trinity Doctrine is Illogical
The Trinity doctrine is the foundation of the modern church system. The seminaries of men birth their church clergy to indoctrinate the masses by twisting Scripture to worship a God whom they call a 'Trinity.' Unfortunately, many take their beliefs for granted without questioning what they have been taught. When one critically looks at the Trinity doctrine, it becomes a theory much like evolution that cannot be substantiated. On the surface, Trinity doctrine may seem plausible, but it must use eisegesis, lots of bias and cherry-picked Scripture verses. However, under critical examination when the entirety of Scripture is taken into consideration, the Trinity is nowhere to be found.
Those that teach the Trinity have to resort to words and explanations that are not found anywhere in Scripture in an attempt to explain something that is illogical and cannot be proven. The Trinity is merely a hypothesis formulated by ecclesiastical men using conjecture that must be imagined into Biblical text and theorized through guesswork.
Would anyone base their spirituality on human invention and speculation?
It seems so.
With the modern church system, esteemed titled men are deemed to be the professional teachers and purveyors of man-made doctrine where they convey a conception that has been systematically developed into a paradoxical notion. When we rely on select men to give their renditions of God, we find that Trinity dogma becomes an unintelligible expression that becomes meaningless, incoherent, contradictory and nonsensical.
And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will get ready for battle? So with yourselves, IF WITH YOUR TONGUE YOU UTTER SPEECH THAT IS NOT INTELLIGIBLE, HOW WILL ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS SAID? For you will be speaking into the air. – 1 Corinthians 14:8
Fitting Square Pegs Into Round Holes
In order for the Trinity doctrine to fit into Scripture, it must be butchered by adding or taking away from Scripture. The worst culprits are men who are part of the modern church system because they fail to rightly divide the word of truth and do not use the pattern of sound words. In fact, it is the traditions of men that perpetuate a futile exercise of claiming 1+1+1 = 1.
To even attempt to understand the Trinity, one would have to spend endless amounts of hours of theological speculations and still must concede that it is a paradox and illogical.
It is interesting that those who deny the Trinity are deemed as heretics or part of a cult. The reality is that ad hominem attacks are all the ammunition that they have against anyone poking holes in their man-made theories.
Why would anyone rely on church clergy and creeds to tell them what to believe in?
We are all capable in this day and age of looking into Scripture and testing it with the original languages to find the truth for ourselves.
He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to REBUKE THOSE WHO CONTRADICT IT. – Titus 1:9
At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and REVEALED THEM TO LITTLE CHILDREN – Matthew 11:25
The theory of modern Christianity is based on the terminologies and concepts of the Trinity that are missing from Scripture. Rather, they have originated and were conceived in the minds of men. These men do not understand the words of Christ because they believe they are wise in their own theories, hypotheses, speculations, notions, conjecture, guesswork and a lot of wishful thinking in the conveyance of their doctrine.
Isn’t it ironic that they have framed credentials upon their walls, but Scripture give them no credence anywhere?
The Fallible Claims
Men with doctorates of Divinity use their imaginations with unbiblical concepts and call it 'truth.' Many have fallen for their presentations explaining the concept of what 'triune' means, but you will find nowhere in the interlinear, dictionaries and lexicons where God (Elohim) means three in one.
The lack of exegesis is an epidemic among self-professed church ministers. In the real world, unscholarly presentations on various different subjects would rip apart their works of fiction to shreds.
There are many Scripture verses that seem to allude a Trinity, but these are simply cherry-picked illusions that have been masterfully compiled to deceive the gullible into believing God is a hypostasis of a triunity or some other form of gobbledygook.
Supposed Popular 'Proof' Texts
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE. – 1 John 5:7
The problem with this above verse is that it is not Scripture at all. Many Bibles do not contain these words because they have been proven to have been added. The evidence reveals that this verse is not adequately supported by the original manuscripts. In fact, it does not appear in any manuscript pre fifteenth century.
I and my Father ARE ONE. – John 10:30
Does 1+1= 1?
If we apply logic, we should understand that anything that is of or from something is not the same thing no matter who or what it is.
A father and his son cannot be the same person, but what can be said is that different people can be one in unity, purpose and even in spirit.
Christ never said, 'I and my Father are one God,' but this is how Trinitarians cherry-pick verses to impose their eisegesis into something that is not there. It is unfortunate that even little children could understand what is revealed in the following text.
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of whom are all things, and we in him; AND ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST, by whom are all things, and we by him. – 1 Corinthians 8:5-6
1+1=2. One God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ equals two different entities. The math is unbelievably easy, but when talking to the church officials, they will say that we need to throw our brains away and believe their fairy tales that utterly defies logical comprehension.
When we throw out church indoctrination and simply read the words and do the simple math, the logical conclusion couldn’t be easier. We don’t have to guess or speculate unless we allow others to think for us.
For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I CAME OUT from God. I CAME FORTH from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. – John 16:27-28
Christ did not come out from the Trinity, but came out from the one God, the Father. He came out from the Father and all else would come through him.
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: FOR BY HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created BY HIM, and FOR HIM: And he is BEFORE ALL THINGS, and BY HIM all things consist. – Colossians 1:14-17
Christ was the firstborn of the dead. All those born of the spirit would become new creations among the ekklesia as part of the Kingdom of God headed by Christ.
AND THERE WAS GIVEN HIM DOMINION, AND GLORY, AND A KINGDOM, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. – Daniel 7:14
The Kingdom was given to Christ by His Father. Christ is not God, but the Son of God. He is a man who was the firstborn of the dead who is the image of the invisible Father.
For there is one God, AND ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus – 1 Timothy 2:5
1+1=2. One God plus one mediator equals two entities. No Trinity here. It is illogical for one to be both. By simply reading the above verse, it becomes crystal clear that there is no Trinity to be found.
I am going to the Father, for THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I. – John 14:28
When all things are subjected to him, then THE SON HIMSELF WILL ALSO BE SUBJECTED TO HIM WHO PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIM, that God may be all in all. – 1 Corinthians 15:28
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and GOD IS THE HEAD OF CHRIST. – 1 Corinthians 11:3
That the God OF OUR Lord Jesus Christ, THE FATHER of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him – Ephesians 1:17
There is no equilateral Trinity here in these above verses at all.
The Trinitarian will use their favourite pet verses to allude to a Trinity, but with all the verses that they quote there must be a preconceived notion applied to the verse because there is never any explicit terms in the text that states, 'three in one.'
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT – Matthew 28:19
Where is there proof of three in one Trinity?
Does mentioning three things make them three separate persons of a multi-person God?
The fact is, the names are not one identity, but they are in unity in purpose of authority, which is of the Father that was given to His Son in His Holy Spirit. The disciples were commanded to do nothing until they received the Holy Spirit.
And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, BUT TO WAIT FOR THE PROMISE OF THE FATHER, which, he said, “you heard from me; for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” – Acts 1:4-5
In Matthew, it says that Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit is a separate person from the Father, then it would make the Holy Spirit the 'Father' rather than the Father.
It should be common sense that Christ is not the Son of the Holy Spirit, but the Son of Yahweh, the Father who is the only on true God.
And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and THE POWER OF THE MOST HIGH will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God. – Luke 1:35
He will be great and will be called the SON OF THE MOST HIGH. – Like 1:32
The 'Most High' refers to the Father, not a separate person called, 'God the Holy Spirit.' The Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit are the same Spirit. It is the power that God possesses who gives gifts by His power to those who are begotten of Him.
If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will THE HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THOSE WHO ASK HIM!” – Luke 11:13
Christ has an intimate relationship with his Father. Both the Father and Son possess the same spirit and impart it to us. They both dwell in those who are among the ekklesia. Again, Christ said, 'I and the Father are one.' We too become one in spirit with them when we are born again.
When Christ ascended to the right hand of the Father, he became part of the spirit that was in unity with the Father. We can see in the following verses that the Spirit of Truth (Spirit of the Father) is in unity with Christ and all who follow him are one of the same spirit, not a separate third person of a Trinity.
And when they bring you before the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, do not be anxious about how you should defend yourself or what you should say, for THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TEACH YOU in that very hour what you ought to say.” – Luke 12:11-12
When they deliver you over, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say, for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour. For it is not you who speak, but the SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER SPEAKING THROUGH YOU. – Matthew 10:19-20
God, the Father is greater than His Son. The Son is in subjection to the Father who freely gave all things to him.
Jesus, knowing that THE FATHER HAD GIVEN ALL THINGS INTO HIS HANDS, and that he had come from God and was going back to God – John 13:3
The Spirit of God is the same spirit that Christ has in himself, which is the same spirit that all of his followers have too. The Spirit of Truth and the Comforter is Christ's spirit that is one with his Father.
“I will not leave you as orphans; I WILL COME TO YOU. – John 14:18
In that day you will know that I AM IN MY FATHER, and YOU IN ME, and I IN YOU. – John 14:20
‘I am going away, and I WILL COME TO YOU.’ – John 14:28
A Simple Test on the Concept of Hypostatic Union
It is interesting that the Trinitarians insist on using the term 'God the Son,' yet with simple reading, the Son of God is quite evident as the proper title in Scripture.
The foundation of the Trinitarian faith is a mystery as they say. They insist on using unscriptural words (a language of mystery) to define what they believe and even have their own 'math' they like to use.
A simple test to see whether the phrase 'hypostatic union' is possible is to try to fill one glass (100%) with milk up to the brim. Then try filling that very same glass with an equal amount (100%) of water.
After you clean up the mess that you have made, take another glass and fill it 50% with milk and then add 50% water to the same glass bringing the glass to 100% full.
Then think about whether it is possible to have both 100% man and 100% God at the same time.
The result of the experiment should conclude that when one liquid is diminished or elevated, it is impossible to be fully either at the same time in one vessel. It would be illogical, a contradiction of substance.
Here is is an interesting conversation.
Joe asked a Trinitarian for five dollars, and he responded, 'I don’t have five dollars.' However, Joe noticed that he was holding a five dollar bill in his hand.
He then questioned him and asked, 'Why did you lie to me?'
The Trinitarian replied, 'When I said I didn’t have five dollars, I meant that in my right hand I did not have it. However, it is true that in my left hand I do have five dollars.'
Joe responded, 'Either you have the five dollars, or not.'
'How can you have, and then not have five dollars at the same time?'
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