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Totter of The Clueless

Updated on November 10, 2009

Well, what can I say?  I've already shown countless times why the orthodox teaching of hell is both unscriptural and ridiculous.  It would probably do little to show that several teachings (most) of the church are unscriptural and ridiculous.  That's really not my concern at this time.  I do not consider myself spiritually enlightened enough to point out all of the flaws of church teachings.  I just know the scriptures that destroy them.  Which church doctrines?  Well, all of them.  And by the way, I don't look down on those who believe these doctrines.  But I do get pretty pissed about one of them.  Why??  Because it's an insult to God and at the very least, is an insult to every human being that doesn't buy in to it.  Of course I'm talking about the teaching of eternal hell.  The teaching sucks.  It's offensive.  I'm offended for the sake of the billions that hellers believe will burn there for eternity.  And we learn now that it is Christians that are at fault for the eternal burning of billions.

No, don't blame your weak little god for this because he put in his bylaws that he can't save those who don't willingly come to him while physically alive.  And don't blame him for creating a 10,000 degree dungeon with creatures ripping people apart and a rotten stench of egg farts to keep people in such eternal misery, that one minute feels like forever.  No, your god couldn't change his bylaws because some idiot cherub called Lucifer free willed himself to become the devil and trick a whole bunch of people.  (Yeah, there's another idiot church doctrine.)  

No, now it's Christians who are at fault.  But then it's the sinners fault for not believing and. . . . .These people don't know what da hell they believe.  They just boast that they are the ones going to paradise and everyone else is going to paravice. (That's uuuuummm, because people in hell are. . . .well. . . .in an eternal vice or something??  Never mind.)  So, we have the Ray Uncomforts and the Kirk Cameramans showing how to witness god's "love" but also how he is not at fault for the eternal barbecue pit awaiting those that tell them to shove off.  Actually, they don't touch the subject of why god's not at fault.  They just assert that because we sin, we are deserving of eternal pain.  What a damnable insult to all who were stupid enough to be born.

Now, as you all probably know, we have people saying the same things here on Hubpages.  No, I won't name names because one hubber in particular will cry to the head of hubpages that I am publicly ridiculing hubbers.  And making reference to statements on hubs should be allowed but it's not my webpage, so what can I say?  I'll say this.  Anybody that teaches this abominable doctrine is worse than any atheist that ever lived.  Now those who are living in fear because they believe this?  Well, you're not so bad.  But remember that the fearful will have their place in the Lake which burns with fire and brimstone.  Not a threat by me, it's in the scriptures. 

Now, this one hubber not only blames Christians for not going out to warn people (this would take every waking second in my opinion.), he/she (not naming names) has little illustrations of fire burning with screaming in the background.  And this is because Christians don't go out in droves teaching the.  . .. . . . .um. . . . . .Good News!!  As I say, the best news would be to never be born to this monstrous "reality" (cough, cough).  And I'll add, that my JAW dropped when this one hubber gave his support to this disgusting crap.  This is because, this hubber claims to not believe in eternal torcher, rather, annihilation.  So eternal torcher is OK but universal salvation is stupid?  Wow, some tread where angels fear to go.  Personally, reading articles like that make me so angry that I would like to take the entire belief system of hell and beat it with a baseball bat. 

OK, now comes the part for me to answer my own contradiction.  I've said many times before that anybody that believes the nonsense of eternal hell should be in such fear for the world, that he/she should give every waking hour of life to plead with people to repent and find jesus.  They should be so adamant that they are committed to an asylum for their insane screaming at the masses.  Well, these hell teachers aren't exactly in this condition.  They are usually smug and fool (excuse me) full of confidence that they will be in heaven while billions of others are screaming in fire.  Well some say it's just separation from god. .. .even though the scripture says "in the presence of the Lamb".  But their hearts are slightly gentler, though their understanding is no better.  But back to my supposed contradiction.  I still feel the same way about the subject.  If you truly believe in eternal hell you should feel compelled to insanely rant out in public for the masses to repent.  Not those who are just afraid of the possibility, but those who truly believe this hogwash.  But don't sit with your smug opinions about yourself, writing about why we are headed for hell and you still care too much about your life to lay it down for public scorn.  I will still show why you're full of crap but you should be able to stand up to some universalist, shouldn't you?      


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      Hell N0 7 years ago

      Thanks for reading Lilred. Seeking the truths of God can be a lonely road. This hub was my answer to Sir Dent's idiotic hub "Totter to the Slaughter". I knew he'd read because he was one of my fan's so that he could stay up with and warn people against my "dangerous" teaching.

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      Lilred 7 years ago

      Sir Dent wrote:

      Jesus said to go and spread the gospel. You have been here 12 months at this time and have yet to share the gospel. Everything you have written has been an attack of some sort upon someone else.

      The only thing that Hell NO is attacking is the damnable doctrine of eternal torture. His interpretation of the Gospel (Gospel means GOOD News) is in finitely better than yours!

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      PAMITCHRUS 8 years ago

      and don't they loooove to preach that God NEVER forces his love on anyone? well said there s.v...

      our Father will have his way will all his kids in due time.. always remember, we just kids in adult bodies. even as Jesus said ya can't see the kingdom accept you be as a little child, that is to say that you realize that he is Our Heavenly Father, and a perfect one at that !! Grace and Peace to all.. :0) oh yeah, hell no , loved that satire about Satan taking over heaven.. Priceless !! Lmao !!! That's were the church has gone oh so astray, they've turned our Perfect Heavenly Father into some manical, two faced pervert.. Oh well we who know him know him... and we know Dad aint' gonna set one child on his lap to wipe away the tears while he tortures another behind his back.. your the best Dad, send forth our big brother so we can clean up this mess.. :0)..

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      PAMITCHRUS 8 years ago

      Hell no, welcome to the kingdom of God , my brother, where only those of pure heart will rule and reign with the Lord Jesus Himself... Oh what a vile taste is in the mouth of our brother, The Lord Jesus Christ. Take heart he shall spew these who profane our Fathers unfailing love out of his mouth very soon :0).. Oh their amazement on that Great and holy day, when they who thought and taught painful eternal fire to be the righteous,just,Balanced judgement of a Holy, Sinless, Loving,Precious God shall themselves be consumed by fire... They shall gaze at one another in utter amazement, their faces aflame, That which they thought to be proper for others shall come upon their own heads.. Righteous and true are you judgements Oh God , righteous and true.. They asked for fire, therefore you will give them fire.. And I thank you most of all Holy one, that they too will yet rise, this time to redemption and reconcilation , oh Father you have and will teach us all thru one another, blessed be the name of the both the Potter, and him sent to make all pots new.. We who believe praise your name, You are indeed the kind and loving God, not to be confused with the god of Molech to whom the whore worships, and how we long for your holiness to be reavealed !!!! Send forth the Great one our Father, let us begin the restoration and reconcillation of all things !! For all who believe in this, the Grace of

      God is with you.. :0).. Hang in there my brothers and sisters for all things are soon to be changed, made new by he who planned it that way from the very start. In his name all will live.. :0).. For he is all things..And he is love. :0). therefore all things are love... My Father you have indeed taken the most simple thing and used it to confound the wise. God is love, God is light, God is good.. Anyone who says differently let them be accursed.. Thus saith the Lord ..

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      Hell N0 8 years ago

      Dent, it was written not to attack, but to destroy some blasphamis teachings of christiandom. By now, the doctrine of eternal hell has been stomped into the floor with many hubs. But 2000 years of pagan teachings and scare tactics of the church won't go down easy. The Whore of Babylon is not a small group. It is a world wide establishment of false teachings and doctrines. They will see their final destruction eventually, and then you will see things more clearly, Dent.

      So true is your last statement.

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      SirDent 8 years ago

      @ SV and Dan. Yawn!!! You too seem to me to have the Jezebel spirit. For one thing the word draw means to pull from inside. It is internal. It is also called conviction.

      A Bible lesson for both of you. David asked a question. Is there anyone of the house of Saul left that I can show the kindness of God to for Jonathan's sake? Short story now. Mephibosheth was sent after, but not dragged to the King's house. He had to come of his own choosing.

      I will noit comment here anymore. This hub was written as I said earlier as an attack. It also shows the heart of the one who wrote it. What comes out of the mouth defiles the body.

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      Sanctus Vesania 8 years ago

      @ Dent

      Romans 3:10-11

      10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

      11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

      12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

      Nobody is good, nobody seeks God. Oh snap!

      John 6:44

      44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

      Hear that? Nobody can come to Christ unless the Father draws them to Christ. Oh snap!

      John 15:16

      Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

      Nobody chooses Jesus; Jesus chooses them. Oh snap!

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      Hell N0 8 years ago

      Attack?? Hub?? Why, I don't know what you mean, Dent. This hub wasn't written to . .. .. .attack one hub. .. .was it? By the way, I've answered every single scripture you've used above in at least one other hub. You assume that people come to Christ without Christ first choosing them. You also assume that being condemned is a permanant condition. Of course, the scriptures sing a different tune. I've shown proof to anybody with spiritual eyes to see in other hubs.

      So, where do you find a scripture that says everybody deserves this fabled hell? It's not anywhere in the scriptures. Speak for yourself Dent. If you think you deserve such a destination then say "you" deserve it. I would disagree of course, because neither you, me nor anybody has ever chosen to be born with such a rotten possibility in front of them, as what blind Christiandom teaches. In fact, nobody has chosen to be born. Period!! Christ will save the world whether you like it or not. He never spoke of your stupid hell doctrine.

      And as for Mr. NoName Flamer. I have nothing against Dent. Only the crap that he teaches. Not that. . . . .any of this has. . . . .anything to do with . ...uuuummm. . .any particular hub of his.

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      SirDent 8 years ago

      Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. ASV

      Whosoever believeth.

      Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him may not perish, but have life eternal. Darby

      Whosoever believes.

      Joh 3:16 God loved the people of this world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never really die. CEV (Contemporary English Version)

      Whoever has faith.

      Joh 3:16 For God had such love for the world that he gave his only Son, so that whoever has faith in him may not come to destruction but have eternal life. BBE (Bible in Basic English)

      Whoever has faith.

      The point is this. Hell is real. Everyone deserves to go there, but no one has to go there.

      Let's look at the next verse.

      Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

      It doesn't say that the world will be saved. The world "might" be saved. Let us keep going shall we?

      Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

      Those who do not believe are condemned. What is the condemnation?

      Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

      Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

      It is written that God will give us the desires of our heart. If someone desires to be in darkness, God will grant it to them.

      I wonder if you read the hub that this one was written to attack. If not I suggest you to read it. If so I suggest you read it again.

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      Sanctus Vesania 8 years ago

      How you get "Christians, preach that everyone who doesn't blindly love Jesus will burn in Hell for eternity" from that verse is beyond me.

      Gospel = Good News - 'God will save everyone'

      Unfortunately the gospel of the hellers is 'God only saves those who choose him. Everyone else will burn in Hell for eternity. Oh, by the way, billions of people will not choose Jesus, so billions of people will burn in Hell. Oops'

      Explain again how that's good news?

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      unknown 8 years ago

      This hub is little more than flaming. If you have something against another person, take it up with them. To place it for the world to see is shameful on yourself. Are you an adult or a child? And no, I don't want an answer, because I already know. Age has nothing to do with it.. it's how you act.

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      SirDent 8 years ago

      Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

      The bride says come. Who is the bride? Why does the bride have to bid them to come?

      Why not preach the gospel instead or preaching against everyone else?

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      Sanctus Vesania 8 years ago

      On a more serious note, preaching the 'gospel' of hell-fire is absolutely ridiculous, and wrong. I once read something that someone wrote, and it was along the lines of:

      "If the only reason why you're following Jesus is because you're afraid of going to Hell, then you're doing it wrong." THIS coming from a heller.

      So...let's see if we get this correct. As Christians our job is to go out to the unsaved masses, scream at them about how if they don't accept Jesus as their savior they'll burn in hell for all eternity. That they'll be absolutely miserable, and wish they were dead, and bla bla.

      So then the person (out of complete FEAR) 'accepts Jesus', and then the heller goes: "Oh, by the way, you have to actually love Jesus. Just being afraid of him sending you to Hell isn't enough! =D"

      So now we have a person who's scared of going to Hell, but doesn't actually love Jesus, and is therefore by the doctrine of the Hellers; screwed.

      ...and don't they loooove to preach that God NEVER forces his love on anyone?

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      Hell N0 8 years ago

      I'm leading people nowhere Dent. Only Christ can lead people to true understanding. He often uses the foolishness of preaching to accomplish this. Again, spreading the gospel is spreading the good news. Not the lies of eternal burning. What I offer is a way for people to come back to Christ. And it's God using me for this. He is not a monster as hellers contend. He forgives all and will have complete success before handing the Kingdom over to the Father. One of the main reasons people turn away from Christ is because they think the bible teaches that god of failure. This couldn't be furthur from the truth. So you repent, Dent.

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      SirDent 8 years ago

      Of course they are watching. Just to give a little run down. Jesus said to go and spread the gospel. You have been here 12 months at this time and have yet to share the gospel. Everything you have written has been an attack of some sort upon someone else.

      You are leading people into hell. There is still time to repent. You really don't have to go there.

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      Hell N0 8 years ago


      They're watching.

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      Sanctus Vesania 8 years ago

      Hmmm, think I know who/what this is aimed at. Good hub, keep up the good work!


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