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What Secrets Is the Vatican Hiding?

Updated on September 24, 2013

Secret Archives have about 5 miles worth of shelving, and it has been estimated it could hold about 70 thousand pages, and 1 million books. The Secret Archives was formally established in 1475, but is much older then that.

This large library is located Vatican City has been named in latin: Archivum Secretum Vaticaun or as it is called in English The Vatican Secret Archives. We have been told that the word does not mean secrets are being kept from us, but only that what is being kept in these archives are the Pope's personal property.

The Vatican also has a public library called: Bibliotheca Apostolica Vatican or in English it is called Library Of The Holy See. It is rather a research library and can only be used by men who write to the Pope for permission to use it. Then present documents which represent who they are, and their qualifications for research. Then and only then can they enter the public library. When they enter the public library the only things they can bring with them are a pen and paper. Nothing else. They will be accompanied by two priests and two guards. They will stay with him for the entire time he is there and follow him out when he is finished.

For years people have been wondering what is hidden in the Secret Archives and why? That is a very good question because the Secret Archives are actually guarded by Swiss Guards. The doors are very heavy and locked. The Catholic Church has been under much criticism for keeping information away from the public, so now 100 documents are going to be put on display from February 2012 until September 2012. These documents will be at Rome's Capitoline Museume, people will be allowed to see the document but not touch it. The document will be in a shot proof case and heavily guarded. This exhibition will be called: Lux In Arcana or The Vatican Secret Archives Revealed. The problem is however, it will only contain such documents as the last writing of Mary Queen of Scots before she was executed. It will contain similar writings, but nothing we have not already learned from what history has taught us.

There have been many theories as to what is hidden in the Secret Archives, some mundane and some not. These theories go from what I think is normal to what I think is crazy. The most widely held belief is that it holds books that have been banned from the bible. The theories then start to get stranger.

One theory is that Secret Archive has a time machine. The time machine is named Chronovisor and was built by a Benedictine Monk named Father Pellegrino. It was said he wanted to go back in time and film Christ's crucifixion.

There is another theory that the Secret Archive is in contact with UFOs, who are going to harm us. The UFOs are going to implant chips in us, and help the Pope take over the world.

How many more secrets is the Vatican hiding, and why? We have not been allowed to see them for some reason. The reason must be important, because the room the books are in is guarded. I am pretty sure there is no time machine. Also, no UFOS, but, the Vatican's problem is, if they keep the room guarded more people will think they are hiding horrible secrets. What if they are just keeping old documents safe? But, then again, why just hide old documents? Perhaps they are hiding something that will truly harm the Vatican. Then it would be important for them to keep the truth from us, keeping their secrets safe is very important.

Truthfully, I have no idea why the Vatican has a Secret Archive and has information that no one is allowed to see. But, what intrigues me the most is why? I mean, isn't the bible true?



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      Dave ritete 24 months ago

      There is a book in one of those vaults they do not want to give it to the whrong person its because something tragic might happen to that person like the priest when he went blind and lost his memory but what i no is that he dicifered the rest of that scroll this has got to do with that stigmata movie

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      Dave ritete 24 months ago

      About the bible i was haveing a read of the new testament the bits where jesus talks about the future very interesting abomination disgust and hatedred i do not blame jesus coming back with his angles look at what is happening in the world right now when u die u are going to find god and a r real

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      Dave ritete 24 months ago

      I was wandering when they found. That scroll on stigmata and deciferd it if they read anything from it now in the bible it says the curse will b lifted and in it will b when they said that saying under the stone or something that was not in that scroll they found was it spirt of truth

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      Spacephonik 2 years ago

      One person mentioned how the artifacts and scriptures in the secret vault can be show cased to the people. But that's happening, no one has to touch them, no one has to steal them. If you do your research you will find out that the pope is part of an elite group that controls the world. The world bank and so on an so forth. People especially Africans do not know of their ancient history. Everything in Africa dates back to 6000 years ago, same time as the bible but history proves African existence more than a 100 00o years ago. What is really hidden in those vaults is all the history of Africans, artifacts, ancient technological information that they do not want people to know because it can cause problems for people of high status. People who introduced money to the world.

      If the Romans are really people of God would they not want to spread the knowledge? I never read a verse in the bible that says Jesus kept his ancient artifacts and scriptures hidden think about it. If Jesus did not possess such power why does the pope possess it?

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      Buildreps 3 years ago from Europe

      Interesting article, Michele, I stumbled on your article after Googling on 'hidden secrets of the Vatican'. I don't understand the part: "and it has been estimated it could hold about 70 thousand pages, and 1 million books". It doesn't seem logical to me, for every book would contain 0.07 pages :)

      The Vatican was trying to hide the true Bible that is now publicly available, partly found in the Nag Hammadi Codex (Gnostic Bible). They're hiding no UFO's nor time machines:) Just crucial information about the truth of Jesus, God and creation. It was all to keep Humans ignorant of their own Divinity. The unconsciousness of Humanity from their 2000 year lasting dream has finally come to an end.

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      Law 3 years ago

      If I told you that I'm your bridge to Christ, I'd expect you to question me for proof. If I can't stand up to scrutiny in the light of day, I can't expect to be taken seriously.

      Larry, you do a good job of being a "Wall", barricading those in search of truth from their thirst.

      The Vatican knows what will become of it when the true followers and servants of Christ come. The Vatican also has a good idea who these servants are and what they look like. The Vatican has spent the past centuries "painting a different picture" of true servants. It has spent centuries portraying what it shouldn't have been portraying, with the hope that by the time the true servants come, people would be so confused. It's the perfect con. And I say this as a Catholic.

      Michele, thanks for being thirsty :)

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      Pat 4 years ago

      Upon reading Socrates and Aristotle from public libraries, and finding in the afterward that to establish Rome, Greek texts, and manuscripts were removed and hidden from the public for 200 years to remove that knowledge from the public and its progeny, to create The reinvention of religion under Roman rule, Catholicism, it is presumed, the Vatican has done a great disservice to mankind in keeping their own human history secret, presumably locked carefully in the Vatican, and unexamined these many 2000 years. How can that not be a disservice to humanity?

      The Vatican and Rome should be forced to open their secret archives as unauthorized to possess what should be, and rightfully are, public human history.

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      Abiyah 4 years ago

      Where should I start. Lament 4:8, 5:10 Clearly the secret is the Holy People and the real Jews are Black. Not my opinion but SCRIPTURES! They have stolen the identity of God chosen people you read about in every HOLY BIBLE. Deut 7:6-11 This part of the bible is speaking to a particular people. See these people are a chosen people above all people on earth so the false doctrin of everyone is the same is a LIE! To clear up another LIE that these Chosen people are lone gone Go to the New Testament since the LIE about the OLD is done away with and read Romans11:1-2 Clears up the LIE about these Chosen Ones being in exile. Now in Deut the God of the HOLY BIBLE clearly stated what would happen to his Chosen PEOPLE. IF YOUR SO CALL HISTORY IS TIED TO THIS...THEN YOU MUCH BE OF THE CHOSEN. Deut 28:68 The Chosen will go into slavery by ships. Deut 28:48 These people would have an IRON YOLK upon their necks. Deut 28:32 Women should give birth and the oppressor would take them Deut 28:41 You would not enjoy your children bcos they also would become slaves. I can go on and on and on...With this in mind Those who call themselves JEWS are not REV 2:9 These people Today dressed in black praying towards a wall are not the TRUE JEWS according to Scripture not my opinion. Unless you can prove to me that they went into slavery by ships and iron yolk upon their necks and their children were sold as slaves then scripture must be speaking of them. But they will worship the Chosen Rev 3:9. For all is Written. The Word of God says, Prove all things. The chosen are not European. Did you know the photo of Mary and son is of a black woman in the Vatican????? Even the picture of the HOLY Apostles. Christ is black. REV 1:14-15 Hair like wool????Sounds nappy to me. Skin as if it were brunt brass in fire????Sound like a colored man to me...But they painted what kind of pic and called it "JESUS". Mockery....Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be given knock and the door shall be opened..All praises to the Most High God of Abraham, Issac and Israel.

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      franke 4 years ago

      i have a story and documeants of a mans hole life that will send anybody thinking my i tell my story ?

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      Marlene Bertrand 4 years ago from Northern California, USA

      This is quite interesting. I wonder what the purpose is of putting documents on display for a short duration. Plus, people can't touch the documents; they can only view the documents through a thick piece of glass. How does that please the public? Oh well... when I hear stories about how people steal the Baby Jesus from Christmas ensembles, I can understand why a person would need to be accompanied while in the research library. I enjoyed your hub. Looking forward to reading more.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Meg, you need to read more carefully. The Vatican has the legal right to keep the documents hidden. I WISH we had the rights to read the documents. There is a difference between the two.

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      Meg 4 years ago

      Lady are you a dis informer? One minute you say the Vatican has a right to keep the documents hidden, next minute you say we have a right to know, get yourself educated you come across as a very foolish person!

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Jesus is more powerful. God has already won.

      I wish you joy and happiness.

      And my heart is full of love.

      God bless you!

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      Vladimir Uhri 4 years ago from HubPages, FB

      Devil is defeated and Jesus is Lord. Jesus won and we received freedom - result. Michele, I wish you and all friends joyful love time in this winter. No one should celebrate Jesus birthday unless has heart full of love.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      I understand your comment. But, do not understand the Catholic Church. Mary is not more important then Jesus.

      We will never be allowed in the Vatican. I would love to be allowed into the Secret Library. I want to know the truth. But, there is much to hide, and they will keep it hidden. But, they cannot hide God's love for us, and our love for God. One of the things I pray for, is for God to let me feel my love for Him. I will never know as much as I need to know. So, I pray for others, for God to lead me on the path He wants me to follow, protection from sins, forgiveness from sin, I pray for others. I do my best, even though it is not enough.

      But thanking God for Jesus is very important, at least for me, it is.

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      Sanxuary 4 years ago

      There are a lot of possibilities and probably a few of each of theses. Something like 1200 changes in the Bible due to translation, mainly language and very small errors. Biblical Archaeology is in a huge dispute in reference to time and much of it was created before any archaeology was done and it was written to be easy to follow. The Political World of Constantine adopted the Bible and decided much of what was allowed in it. Countless agnostics were not allowed in, some known, some maybe not known. The conversion of the people deliberately adopted many pagan customs such as Christmas and other things to be converted into Christian traditions. Some even believe that some ancient things were included to mimic past beliefs. For example the story of Horus and the Egyptian book of the Dead has many similarities. Due to these similarities many wonder if a pre Bible or a belief existed prior to the so called Bible and if so have we corrupted Gods story before. Other of course are the long standing books on many things not exactly Biblical. The seven deadly sins, the interpretation of hell and demons and etc. In other wards the interpretation of a lot of things not exactly found in the Bible. Then there is just the doctrine of the Church its self. Some examples our the reading of the Bull a declaration of war on all churches that do not proclaim the Pope as the head of the Church. The idea of priest not marrying not to mention the sex scandals. The history of corruption is thousands of years old from saints to priest who faked stigmata. The faith itself changes from one place to another. In some places Mary is more important then Jesus.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      I agree with you, God feels joy when He knows we love Him also!

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hi again Michelle,Once you begin researching, you will find all kinds of pagan symbolism lolling about from the Pontiffs hat (I think they call it a mitre) to the huge sun symbol behind his "throne." The sad thing is that so much of this is hidden especially from the everyday worshiper. If you are really interested, I can send some info to an email address....I am not sure how we get to do that privately??? I typed this post earlier, or something similar and am not sure whether I posted it or lost it in the system somehow. Just incase I did not....let us not forget that the RCC changed the calendar as well and did away with 10 days along the way! They changed it to the Gregorian Calendar and at the same time changed the times from a new day beginning at Sunset (Gods decree) to beginning at midnight. Why does anyone change existent laws? To assert their own authority - in this case - to override God's authority?

      Read your profile. Of course God loves us all. We are all His children and He does not want one of us to perish - all we have to do is make the decision to come to Him. I am sure every time one of us comes to Him, there is a great roar of joy in heaven.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      shofarcall Wow, I just checked out what you told me, and found a lot more pagan symbols. It looks very evil now. No one ( well just a few, like you ) will agree. So many are fooled these days.

      I know they changed God's law, because they feel the pope is the most mighty of all.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Check out the obelisk (pagan symbol) standing right in front of the entrance and the ceilings have many dragons when viewed up close.

      Abba Father, give us the courage to say what is true, in Jesus's name.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Phew, I am so glad Larry is not following this hub anymore as I would have been fearful of posting. It was the Vatican that changed the 10 Commandments. Thou shalt not kneel down to graven images no longer exists in their Bibles and the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday to accommodate the pagan worshippers and the whole world fell in line with it. (he deceiveth the whole world)

      I know it was a long time ago but that does not change the fact that they changed God's Law because they felt/feel they have the authority too

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Wouldn't that have been amazing? Hitler was the reason my grandmother and grandfather left France and came to the United States ( on my mother's side of the family).

      I am so interesting on what is hidden in the Vatican, and WHY they are hiding it.

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      tipstoretireearly 4 years ago from New York

      Fascinating hub! I'd love to see the Vatican's documents explaining their behavior during WWII. Perhaps they could have taken a more active role and saved thousands of lives from the Holocaust.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Yes the time machines are silly, perhaps they have been mentioned to distract us from what is really in the Vatican. But as for the 10 commandments, I have no idea who changed them, and what the original 10 commandments were.

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      kathryn1000 4 years ago from London

      The documents will be very valuable..but people love to imagine silly things like Time Machines.

      And who changed the ten commandments?

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Vlad,

      I am sorry I wrote may you have a blessed holiday

      what I meant was

      God bless you

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you RichusFridum maybe I am a little nuts, but I really want to know what they are hiding!!

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      RichusFridum 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Well....

      you really opened up a can of worms AND snakes with this one...

      Interesting though and a DAMNED good question....

      ALIENS ARE REAL!

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Vlad may you have a bless holiday also.

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      Vladimir Uhri 4 years ago from HubPages, FB

      Michele, I am blessed.

      I am sure story is false but not all know it.

      Have a beautiful Holidays.

      I have troubles communicating with E-mail I am using alternative means.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Hello Vlad,

      How are you?

      who is Lilith Fixion is that the person who was supposed to be Adam's first wife? We know that is not true.

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      Vladimir Uhri 4 years ago from HubPages, FB

      Lilith fixion is fiund in one Jewish cult.

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you very much bettybarnesb, now I want to read your hub. I am very interested in what the pope wrote!

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      bettybarnesb 4 years ago from Bartlett, TN

      Hey Michele! Found this very interesting because I published an hub today on the Pope and his latest book. Your article is give a lot of good info. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to reading more of your work.

      be blessed...

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      The word Lilith is not used in the bible, except in the Old Kind James Version. In Isaiah 34:14 And haunteres of waterless regions must meet up with howling animals, and even Lilith. But, now the word Lilith had been edited out of all bibles and word "Goat Shaped Demon" or even the word "It" has been used as well.

      Can you tell me of any other places that the word Lilith is used?

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      Peter Lospinuso 4 years ago

      I find that there is a lot of information that is edited out of the Holy Bible and I feel that it is time the things that have been edited out should be revealed .I have read 4 different acounts that are bibles and much is not in the new revised editions .I have been doing a study on my own for a very long time,I have a lot of questions but no one to answere some of the: One big question is about the beginning when everything started and it does state that Adam had a wife before Eve her name was Lilth but my on going rteading has shown that Eve dissappears after a few passages but Lilith comes up threw out the whole Bible cna someone answerre this ,if so please disclose

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      TyeshaMatthews Yes, that is very true, there are many books that are missing from the bible and are being hidden from us. As for the writings about women from that era, I cannot agree with you more then anything!

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      Tyesha Sewer- Matthews 4 years ago from MOSS POINT, MS

      Did any of you know the Muslims read the Bible? They do because they believe in Jesus as well and that Some of the Bible's teachings and books are very much the same and were once apart of their holy book. All those crazy Muslims are not the same as the others and are frowned upon because they are believed to be vessels of the satan. Muslims are all about knowledge and peace. It has been said that many of the religious books were destroyed to bring a wedge between the races and religions. We should read up on other Religions based on God(Allah, Jehova). Much of the bible that is missing were Gospels that kings had authority over. King James kept many gospels out of the bible. Especially the ones from the women of that era.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      TyeshaMatthews that is probably very true. But at this point there is no way we will ever find out. I don't know why they would be hidden, or if there is a reason for keeping them hidden. But, they are going to stay that way.

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      Tyesha Sewer- Matthews 5 years ago from MOSS POINT, MS

      Certain books of the Bible are one major issue. So many pieces of the Gospel is missing.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Oh, and please do not worry about it being spam, I am sure it is not.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you for letting me know that. It sounds very interesting to me.

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      Sparkster Publishing 5 years ago from United Kingdom

      I don't want to spam the comments section with an unsolicited link so I'll suggest that you also check out the hub, there's a very interesting twist at the end!

      It's actually called The Royal Bloodline Of The Establishment - A Possible Hypothesis On Existence.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      sparkster That is very interesting. I will read your hub. But, is the true origins of Christ only legend?

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      Kerry43 5 years ago

      Thanks, sparkster, I will check that out!

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      Sparkster Publishing 5 years ago from United Kingdom

      Did you know that the Vatican have admitted to making 14 changes to new testament? Even though it clearly states in there that anyone that does so will be punished.

      Legend has it that the Knights Templar had information in the 12th century which had been kept suppressed by the establishment in order to conceal the true origins of Jesus Christ.

      Maybe I should point you to the direction of my hub entitled "The Royal Bloodline Of The Establishment"

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you for Tweeting Kerry. I am always going to be wondering about the Vatican, well except for the Time Machine. That cannot exist. And there is no way we will ever find out what is in the Vatican. So, like you, I will be speculating.

      Hey, and thanks for reading, I appreciate that. This hub is really old:)

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      Kerry43 5 years ago

      Tweet, I love this topic. I recently watched a very interesting documentary about this, although the outcome left as many unanswered questions as I had prior to watching. It's fun to speculate though:)

      Kerry

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Larry:

      I understand that you do not want to follow this hub and please don't think it offends me, it does not. And the Vatican is a sovereign state and does not have to reveal any of it's secrets. I do understand that.

      I am doing well and hope you are doing well also.

      Michele

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      Larry Wall 5 years ago

      Michele:

      This is not against you or your Hub. The comments are becoming repetitive. We had agreed that Vatican City is a sovereign state and has no obligation to reveal the "secrets" and it would take years of translations to make any sense of those secret records. I am going to do everyone a favor and no longer follow this Hub. My views are well stated. Everyone is entitled to ask questions and make statements. I just not choosing to follow them any longer. Hope you are doing well.

      Larry

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you very much for your comment, I have wondered that also.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Rusti Mccollum Thank you for tweeting it!

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      Maryjesus 5 years ago

      The holy grail

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      Ruth McCollum 5 years ago from Lake Oswego, Oregon

      It makes one wonder doesn't it. i mean to go to such lengths to keep it secret. I'd sure like to get in there. Very interesting hub.Tweeted it

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you movielardatadare I can't wait to read it!!

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      movielardatadare 5 years ago from Texas

      I'm not sure, but I think that I might just write a reflection on this hub. Nice work, Michele! Guess I'll get started on that hub right away...

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      Larry Wall 5 years ago

      Movielardatadare

      I suggest to go back and read the comments. Most of your questions will be answered. By the way, will you produce a copy of your last check stub, your income tax return and your medical records for publication. It may be personal, but if you want to keep it hidden, there must be a conspiracy behind it.

      Also, are you applying that same theory to the Morman Church, and to Greek Orthodox, Buddhists and so on. Probably not. Yes, I am a Catholic and I do not know what is in the vault and I do not think it is going to change my life. Finally, how is the Pope going to take over the world? You sound like the people who said the Pope was going to run the United States when John Kennedy was elected President. (He was the first Catholic president).

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      movielardatadare 5 years ago from Texas

      Very interesting hub! Voted up! I enjoy reading hubs like these. I like the Chronovisor theory. That reminds me of the gateway thing that I wrote in one of my own hubs. I really like the UFO theory. UFOs would harm us in my opinion. Isn't it odd that the pope will eventually take over the world? He has numerous followers. Very entertaining piece. There is a reason the Vatican is hiding so much information. Whenver things are hidden and done in the dark, there is a conspiracy behind it. If not, then why else would they hide it?

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      upal19 I do agree with you, but we are unable to see what is in the Archives. There is so much we could learn from this. I have never understood why they have put these into a vault that they are protecting so much.

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      Ashraf Mir 5 years ago from Dhaka

      Vatican is a nation but it is based on a religious one. This is a religious nation. So, this nation is not like other nations. All those archived books are not related to the nation or state materials. Now it is the time to reveal those all. I think Those books except the state's secret ones should be scanned and should be open to all for reading. No religious matter should be hidden. People have the right to know all the religious matters.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      By the way, I am pretty sure you know who is in charge of the Illuminati

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      History is written only by those who have won the war. But you already know that. Does the Pope control the Vatican? No. Are we allowed to know who controls the Vatican? No, Does the illuminati control the Vatican? I think it does.

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      Southernmapart 5 years ago

      Yes, the Vatican is a nation. Who is in control? Think about the history. The Church sent out the Templar Knights as Crusaders to Jerusalem in the 11th century. During the same period, the Mongol Horde out of China was invading Asia Minor. The Mongols pushed all the way into Europe, but no farther than Italy. In 1240, the Mongols went home.

      History does not tell us this, but it is implied that the Templar Knights were not successful in defending the Vatican and the Church must have had dealings with the Chinese invaders.

      In 1307, the King of France, on behalf of the Pope, arrested and imprisoned the main leaders of the remaining Knights, basically destroying the public position of this group.

      East met West back in those ages. Who do you think controls the Vatican?

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      That is very true. The regular people were not allowed to have a bible. However, even if they did have a bible, it was written in Latin. How many common people knew how to read Latin? Not a lot. Thank you so much for your comment.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Southernmapart, I agree with you, but we will never find out because the Vatican is a Nation and is protected as a nation.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      yeshuaslion Jesus Christ is real, that is one thing that the Vatican cannot hide. because Jesus has revealed Himself to us. I also am very happy and praise God, to have given us his Son, Jesus.

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      Michael Jon 5 years ago from St. Louis

      Interesting hub. Wasn't the Vatican involved in keeping the Bible out of the hands of common folk during the dark ages? I agree, there are many secrets where the Vatican is concerned.

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      Southernmapart 5 years ago

      I sincerely hope that the Vatican has some of the Mayan codex, and that the books were not all burned and destroyed by the Spanish when they invaded Central America. No doubt that the Vatican is the keeper of many secrets.

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      yeshuaslion 5 years ago

      Well I truly believe Christ Jesus IS Real and I accept him as my Lord and savior. But the vatican, is indeed the one of the places the illuminati holds tight onto. you may not see it, but my generation (even though it appears we are LOST) is being revealed to what the world REALLY IS! Propoganda, Lies, Evil and much more. Corrupt Government of America (illuminati) is a HUGE one and we can visually see it on t.v. and hear it on the radio. its Discusting! Im so glad we have Christ Jesus!

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you Laura and ignugent17. We will probably never know the answer to this question.

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      ignugent17 5 years ago

      Very interesting hub!

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      Laura Tykarski 5 years ago from Pittsburgh PA

      As always really enjoyed this hub the accompanied photos are also awesome. This is another question that gets you thinking. I totally agree with billybuc lots of comments -your hubs provide great content along with generating interesting dialogues. I often re-visit just to check out the latest comments you have gotten.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Well most of my hubs don't have this many comments, just a few. I am still interesting, but will probably not ever have the chance.

      Thanks a lot for your comment.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Wow, look at all the comments on this hub! You certainly hit on a winning combination with this topic. Well, I was born and raised a Catholic, and I can tell you that part of the nature of the Catholic Church is secrecy.....it seems to be so deeply ingrained in the fabric of that religion that they just do it for no other reason than to be secretive.

      Very interesting hub!

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      DMVmimay Thank you for your comment, I wish we could find out what was in there, but we cannot. Oh well, it is what it is.

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      Efficient Admin 5 years ago from Charlotte, NC

      MrMaranatha, that makes a lot of sense, thank you.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Eternal life is much better, that is very true

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      I still love coffee, well and and espresso is not so bad either.

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      MrMaranatha 5 years ago from Somewhere in the third world.

      Coffee however is not = to Eternal Life.. Because sooner or later you always find the bottom of the cup. Just saying :-)

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      MrMaranatha 5 years ago from Somewhere in the third world.

      Espresso is not really coffee.. its more like Life in a small concentrated form...

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Larr You are correct you and I agree disagree, However you we do have to on coffee. The people on our coffee group is growing :) That is a good thing. The City of the Vatican is a Nation, therefore, we cannot take anything from them. We have to respect them. We cannot invade or take anything from them.

      We have to respect them.

      That is the truth.

      That is very important.

      Larry and I are very good friend

      By the way since more friends are in the coffee group, we are probably going to share, we will have to find a place in the middle, or drink coffee on the exact same time on hubpages. That might be the best time Coffee is coffee. We agree on that!!!

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      Larry Wall 5 years ago

      With Michel's permission, it is her hub, I want them to tell me the secrets they they and what they think will find that will be so devastating to Christianity and the Catholic Church. Everything is a piece of paper. Everything will be subject to interpretation. Everything suggested thus far has been speculation. If my church made a mistake hundreds of years ago, then as a Catholic I have to deal with it. I just do not think you are going to find the "smoking gun" that so many are looking for.

      Please do not respond until Michele gives her approval. This is her hub and I have to right to try to manipulate it in any manner. Michele and I do not agree on everything, but we have come to the conclusion that we have the right to disagree and still remain friends.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      MrMaranatha you are very correct about the old rules. At any rate the documents belong to the Pope. When he says "no" everything stops there. And the entire Vatican City is a Nation. So, that is about it. No one can take anything from them.

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      MrMaranatha 5 years ago from Somewhere in the third world.

      Not only where the securitiy cameras might be... but other types of security can be identified as well... Of course that is old school.. the more modern cameras are getting so small now that they can be hidden about anywhere... and since they are wireless there are no lines to look for... anyway.. just some of the other reasons for the rules.. which have not been changed in a hundred years probably...

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      MrMaranatha

      Stealing something from the Vatican would be horrible, at least I think it would be. But, photos are being used to identify locations of security cameras? Wow, no wonder they won't let people take pictures. That makes a lot of sense.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Efficient Admin the flash of a camera probably harm an old piece of writing or a painting. At least I think it can. I hope you start feeling better soon, and no you aren't rambling.

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      MrMaranatha 5 years ago from Somewhere in the third world.

      The camera thing has a couple of reasons behind it... 1 is damage to the paintings and things which deteriate with exposure to light... the other part is about Security.. they do not want photos to be so easily obtained that would be usable for nefarious plans. Lets face it.. if just one painting walked out of that place... it could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars... or more. The Vatican is like a Bank Vault that only takes deposits... :-)

      Photos are usable to identify the locations of security cameras etc when planning a heist.

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      Efficient Admin 5 years ago from Charlotte, NC

      I read somewhere that the Vatican absolutely forbids pictures / camera use? I don't know if that is true or not, but also it may be another church over there and not the Vatican. But either way, I thought that was peculiar they didn't want photos taken. Maybe the flash of the camera harms something, like at museums you can't use a flash camera. (I am on Day 2 of refined sugar detox and I am just rambling away. sorry).

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      DeBorrah isn't that wonderful? The bible is the number one best seller of all time? I believe it will stay that way, and as for the question I am asking, most people ignored it. You are the only one who noticed it! Yes the bible is true!

      Thank you!

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      DeBorrah K Ogans 5 years ago

      Michele Travis, Interesting article that poses many questions and varied responses. There is a lot of history in regards to the Church in the Vatican in Rome. Some good and some not so good. I am thankful to have been able to visit there… The comments here are quite interesting as well.

      To answer your question as far as the Bible being true! YES!!! It is the infallible Word of God! According to II Timothy 2. “KEEP reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling-about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to GOD as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and correctly handles the WORD of TRUTH. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it become more and more ungodly…” The WORD is POWERFUL and “the TRUTH will set you FREE!”

      The Bible stands on its own merits! It is not by coincidence that it remains to be the number one best seller of all time! Thank You for sharing! Peace & Blessings!

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      HouseBuyersUS Thank you, I appreciate your comment:)

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Barbara Kay It will be exciting when they are translated into english. They are probably translated now. I just haven't looked at the right place yet.

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      HouseBuyersUS 5 years ago from Centreville, Virginia, USA

      nice hub with lots of interesting information...

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      Barbara Badder 5 years ago from USA

      Michele, I hadn't thought about writing one, you just got me interested. I'd like to see the 100 documents they are making public. Now that might be some interesting reading and open up all kinds of things to write about.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      If you write a hub about it, I really want to read it!

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      Barbara Badder 5 years ago from USA

      You got me interested in doing some research. There are things that happened that the Catholic Church aren't so proud of. I don't think it has anything to do with the Bible being changed. I also found that in the days that the library was formed, the word secret meant personal belonging. So it might not be exciting as it seems.

      It would be interesting to see if there is anything to hide though. All sorts of things are being uncovered lately.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      There is a website now where people are able to read some of the information in the Vatican's Secret Archive's

      http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

      But, we are still waiting for it to be translated into english

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      Larry Wall 5 years ago

      Brenda:

      If you chose not to read the response I made to our comments some two months ago, I am not going to rehash all of those points again. The Catholic Church is organized differently than protestant churches. I was a Baptist, which technically was not a protestant, because Baptists do not reject or object to the Catholic Church. I had a Baptist minister taking part in my Catholic wedding. The idea that the Pope is infallible is a misunderstood concept. It is only when he "speaks from the chair" and I do not know the official name of that are his words considered to be infallible, because he has received a message from God. A lot of people have received messages from God.

      If you did not bother to read the response I wrote two months ago, I see no point in going over it again.

      I will just paste here my closing paragraphs from my initial response.

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      There are people, and I think you fall into that group, that try to find differences, even perhaps try to create a wedge between Catholics and other Christian faiths. I try to find the similarities and common ground. I once heard a Catholic Priest state that all Christian believers are the children of God, separated for now, but still all children of God. Catholics do not expect to only find other Catholics in heaven. I know a few Baptists who are going to be surprised but maybe by the time they get to heaven, they will have changed their attitudes. Also, just for the record, when my wife and I was married, we had a Priest as the main celebrant, a second priest, who was a friend of my wife's family as a con-celebrant and my Baptist minister. We have been married for almost 32 years, and I expect we will always be married--our faith has seen us through many trials, and we count on that faith to lead us through the future.

      I hope you accept these comments in the spirit in which they were presented--an attempt to clear up some common misunderstandings about the Catholic Church.

      Is the Catholic church perfect--no. Have Popes, priests and other leaders made mistakes--absolutely and they will answer for those transgressions.

      I do not know what else you expect from the Catholic Church, other than to give up its identity and accept what you say as the final word. If that was to happen, there would be no Catholic Church and trust me, that would be a great loss to the world.

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      Michele Travis 5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Hi Brenda I only responded to kevin because it seemed like he was just trying to tease me.

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      Brenda Durham 5 years ago

      Hi Michele. I saw this hub come up again on my hubfeed. I still like your hub!

      I hadn't re-visited it for a long time. Which is why I never responded to

      Larry Wall.

      Larry, I see you had some really strong feelings and reactions to some of my words. Sorry I didn't see it sooner. I don't wanna argue. But indeed I stand by my words. And I think you took personal offense somehow, according to some of your responses. I can't help that. I didn't mean to offend you, but at the same time, the Truth is the Truth. And there's one thing you may not have considered-----I take the same stance against any inaccuracies of interpretation or behavior or doctrine that's exhibited in any "Protestant" Church as well. No particular denomination is immune from error. And when those errors are directly against the Bible's intent, they should be exposed and hopefully stopped from being allowed into doctrine. One of the main problems with resolving any issue like that is that the Catholic Church's setup (in general) is one that refuses to lend an ear to any admonishment or interpretations besides that of the leadership like the Popes. While Protestants (in general) don't mind calling their leaders out on the carpet when they're wrong. We know that ALL mankind is prone to error at some point. But we also know that forgiveness is available to the repentant heart, just like Jimmy Swaggart's, and that that process is one that refines us if we really do keep striving to do the right thing. We admit we are fallible. Tell me why your Catholic Church doesn't want to admit that. Then we might have foundation for discussion.