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What it is outside of 34 years of Christian living and practice?

Updated on February 5, 2014

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Christian Prayer with Scripture
Christian Prayer with Scripture
Prayer with crucifix
Prayer with crucifix
Tree of Life.  Tree of Knowledge.
Tree of Life. Tree of Knowledge.
Pagan "Scriptures"
Pagan "Scriptures"

The Vein of Energetics/Spirit

Spirit pervades all of humanity...every belief system, even Atheism and Agnosticism. One must step back and review the landscapes with a discerning eye; but, if one is diligent, the truth will surface. The evidence is plain.

The bottom line is that human beings are made of Spirit which is energy, then human beings manifest into the physical body. In 5-10 years, spiritual science/energetic studies will have advanced far enough that evidence-based philosophy and measurement will be undeniable. The rational and irrational will reconcile. Currently, there are a lot of brilliant energy pioneers shifting paradigms for scientists, medicine and spiritual venues.

My experiences have been vast over the past 40 some years. I was born and baptised into a Lutheran family. I lived a Christian life. In my 20's, I even became a charismatic who acted in accordance with the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I furthered my faith by doing missionary work in Asia. But then Christianity no longer supported me. I was suffocated by the practices and the beliefs after one of the most trying periods of my existence. I could no longer find God in the religion about God. It became a horrible paradox for me.

But, what I now know is that it was the natural progression of my spiritual growth and development. I would find water in the desert so-to-speak. Yet, it would take time and re-education to a new literacy I could not see in my old religious constructs. And, Jesus would become the truly ominiscient, omnipresent, omnipotent being that I failed to see as that very linear-minded, dogmatic, and doctrine-based Christian.

The reason for this is that Spirit is infinite and infinitely connected to humanity.

Templar Magick within Christianity

Chartres Cathedral, France
Chartres Cathedral, France

Divergence, Truth, the great DOT

I can tell you all sorts of my experiences. What I want to focus on in the scope of this Hub is the dots that connect. Humanity was birthed through the Divine---through the energies. This is the main DOT.

Let me first say clearly that a lot of Pagans feel and get incensed at the regularly practiced brutality of Christians. That is to say, there is still such a historically designed antagonism between most Abrahamic religions and Pagans but especially within the Christian faith because the Pagans were once massively sentenced to death as heretics and dreadful, evil sinners who aspire to Satan. And many Pagans remain persecuted to this day.

"Paganism is a somewhat vague term derived from from the Latin word paganus. Pagan is a term which refers to a variety of different religions ranging from Wicca, to that of ancient Egypt and even Hinduism, among many others. Some Pagans are of no specific religion, but rather are eclectic. In general Pagan religions have more than one deity, or many gods which are aspects of one (an idea similar to that of the Christian trinity). Another quite common feature of Pagan religions is that they tend to be nature oriented. Pagan can also be used as a derogatory word for any non-Judeo/Christian/Islamic religion."

Pagans don't even subscribe to Satan.

In addition, Pagans get angry that the Divine Feminine is denounced in the Judeo-Christian patriarchal belief system; and, that Eve was seen as the sin-invoking mother of the "fallen" humanity when the first woman, Lilith, was a far more independent feminine being that got portrayed as a demon---and so she, indeed, became a demon shut out of paradise.

But so too was there a hate-filled, mob-led holocaust called the Burning Times where it is estimated that hundreds of thousands to millions (mostly women) were sizzled at a stake for anything outside the Church's realm of thinking.

This burning was done under the context of unlawful or Satan infused witchcraft. However, the great Protestant reformer, Martin Luther, could have as easily been burned at the very same kind of stake. Witches and Protestants were that similar in the Church's eyes.

There is, also, no education within Christianity about how the Church supplanted all the Pagan festivals and traditions with its own saints, holidays and traditions---Christmas and Easter being the two biggest supplantings. Goddesses like Brighit were transformed by the Church into saints so that Pagans would willingly become believers of the New Religion. There was no concern for the truth. The Church's scruples were completely lacking. The Church's power-seeking was prominent.

Many modern Christians do not know the Church's history. They are devoid of it. They know a pure as the driven snow Salvation called Jesus. That is it. There is no bloody trail all the way back through history that Christianity instigated and propagated. This is especially so within Protestantism. It is funny to study from antiquated Scriptures but to be otherwise cut off from the historical context from which those Scriptures were formed and chosen.

Moreover, these same Christians (I was once one of them) follow the leader by subscribing blindly to their independent denominational perspectives. If something is preached in the pulpit it is fairly sacrosanct to the church congregations. There is a little more wiggle room from the sacrosanct within the mainline Protestant formats that dowse themselves in intellectual pursuits as well as Biblical and spiritual pursuits.

Furthermore, Christians obediently hold one another accountable to do right thinking and right living as expressed by the New Testament version of Jesus: His words, His life, His Passion, His discipleship in conjunction with the ways of the Old Testament, which are rarely defined in terms of their multiple histories and uses. This maybe a little less so if practiced by the believer who attends Sunday School or CCD.

The Law, also, comes before Love in most instances because the Law is seen outside the construct of Jesus (the Word or logos) rather than an inherent perfection within Christ's unconditional, all-loving being.

Because Christians frequently study and stew over antiquated Scriptures, they often get aggravated if people outside their faith bear down on them with irreverent disbelief or pointed questioning.

Christians usually believe in proselytizing...or at least sharing their faith. Many other belief systems shun conversion strategies with vehemence.

Catholic Christians seem to be three types---a Catholic born and bred but rarely (if ever) practicing; a Catholic somewhat practicing; and the devout practitioner. Something most Catholics and early Protestant denominations fail to recognize about Catholics, Anglicans/Episcopalians, and Lutherans is that there is ritual magick inlaid in the earliest of Christian formats. Cathedrals like Chartres in France are designed with magickal transformation and transcendence in mind. However Catholics high up in the Church know the significance of such designs. The practices were contrived to reach the masses with the light of Christ back in the darkest periods of history when illiteracy was more common than not.

"Forward wind to today. For the jet set I note that the famous French, Templar built cathedrals of Amiens, Bayeux and Chartres (ABC) have labyrinths still, and so do the cathedrals at Lucca and Santa Marla in Rome. The geometry of the patterns of the masonry in these cathedrals and churches concentrated the earth energy and focused it into specific areas of the buildings. Like most other cathedrals designed and built by the Templars, the one at Chartres was built over a sacred pagan site This one happens to be a Druid well, still available to see if you talk nicely to whoever is in charge of the crypt, and oil his keys in an appropriate manner.

The Chartres pattern labyrinths were designed to act as substitutes for the long pilgrimage to the Holy Land, for those who could not afford to go. The geometry of the labyrinth is such that simply by walking, or in those days crawling it mindfully, a person experiences points of chaos and points of harmony. All sorts of things come to the surface that are not usually noticed in the hubbub of a worldly life.

One of our group said that when she walked the Dromenon it was like she was given letters of the alphabet, and odd words as she went in, and they were integrated into sentences for her as she came out. All the psychics noted the increase in size of the auras of the exiting participants compared with their entry dimensions. Several had vivid memories of previous lives.

The Dromenon has been called an instrument by which the soul is enabled to talk to the psyche. That is certainly true for most people."

But then material gain infested the spiritual constructs and the Reformation to Protestantism became the new fad in religion. And thus...much of the magick was seemingly washed away through direct means of contacting with the Divine. Yet even this "direct connection" movement was soiled with blood and iniquity. From the Protestant side, noble people stripped the churches of their beautiful trinkets so that the trinkets could be used in their homes. Lives were lost so this could happen. Nevertheless, I still adore the beauty, the pomp and circumstance of my Lutheran upbringing. The aesthetic appeal is awe inspiring. Christ is very artistic within the old Church frameworks.

Having discussed the destructive path between Christendom and Paganism, let me say these beliefs were not completely estranged from one another. " Folk healers, in England also known as cunning folk or (more rarely) as white witches are practitioners of folk medicine folk magic and divination within the context of the various traditions of folklore in Christian Europe (from at least the 15th up until at least the early 20th century)."

In truth, there was no separate system between the peoples back in the day. Everything lay in the very gray zone. There was the Divine, humanity and then everything as one within those two frameworks. The Divine and humanity were always One. They still ARE. Magick, Science, Religion, Alchemy and Medicine were all the same. Man chose---primarily through religious and political contexts, to make discerning and categorical classifications. These were based on his egoic presence in history as well as his disabled understanding which lacked the direct inspiration and love of the Divine. Man did this because he felt separate from God through self-imposed sin.

In fact, though, God has never been separate from any of Its/Hers/His creation. Illusion alone stands between God and humanity. Egoic illusion.

History demanded that Christ die on the cross to remove the shame of the life and conceptualizations of the great and persistent Illusion. Mankind still remains in conflict, because it believes in its ego more than in the perfect, unconditional Love of God. But times are changing. The evolution of Consciousness progresses incessantly. Christ Consciousness expands every second. All of creation will eventually raise in vibration to the Highest known vibrational frequency known as Divine Love and all of life will retain the frequency for infinity. It humanity's destiny. It is because, It is us ALWAYS minus the illusionary contexts within the earth plane.

And we only know separation from God/Source/the Divine on the earth plane (unless there are other planets or stars with such a feature!!!). In spirit, in pure energy, we only feel Oneness with all that IS. Duality is a construct of the mind.

I do toy with the concept of the Age of Pisces. I can conceive that the age is perhaps the first revelational period in history where humanity was truly empowered from the Great Illusion---from the context of spiritual "death" or separation from the Divine. I say this because when I was learning candle magick, I charged a protection candle with the energy of Christ's three day descension into hell. I am almost passed out when I lit the wick. It was just that powerful.

The Eastern and Western worlds were very different from each other. The various spiritual paths are quite distinct. Yet, each path found its way to a Divinely lit corridor.

I can conceive that what Christ took onto His soul was the collective ego of humanity in super crisis. Hell is a funny idea to me. Time-Space are mental constructs. They do not exist. So Christ was most likely in a multidimensional state while walking the earth. He could not only retrieve the souls of "once upon a time" while simultaneously dying on the cross, while, also, simultaneously projecting into the infinite. And when he died he went to a space of complete separation from God. He could do this because he was God. God, at that point in history, was the only being with the talent to do the impossible. When Christ resurrected from the Great Abyss, and subsequently Ascended to the dimension of perfect bliss, all beings were given such power.

There is a book called Holy Science that was written by a yogi Guru in India. I am sure there are astrological phenomena in that text that indicate the revelation of Christ was in conjunction with other historical phenomena that freed humanity from perpetual thoughts, feelings and states of beings of complete separation from the Divine.

Hell probably was a wicked and dynamic thought form in humanity's early life.

  • "Tulpa (Tibetan: སྤྲུལ་པ, Wylie: sprul-pa; Sanskrit: निर्मित nirmita[1] and निर्माण nirmāṇa;[2]Japanese: タルパ tarupa;[3] "to build" or "to construct") also translated as "magical emanation",[4] "conjured thing" [5] and "phantom" [6] is a concept in mysticism of a being or object which is created through sheer spiritual or mental discipline alone. It is defined in Indian Buddhist texts as any unreal, illusory or mind created apparition. According to Alexandra David-Néel, tulpas are "magic formations generated by a powerful concentration of thought." It is a materialized thought that has taken physical form and is usually regarded as synonymous to a thoughtform.[7]"

Remembering the Energy Vibration We Already Are: Imagine

Bridging the Gap

The Bridge to Eternal Love
The Bridge to Eternal Love

My bent in life is One Love.

I am syncretic now. It was an odd thing when my syncretism began to root itself into the earth plane. I didn't expect that I would move beyond the superficial conceptualizations that I professed to believe in. However, I did. It was strange and spectacular. At first it was disconcerting. Thoughts began to flow. My chakra system began to percolate. Nothing in me stayed stationary. My beliefs were officially breathing with life of their own. I was many belief structures all at once. It felt powerful once I learned to manage it.

Christianity is my foundational faith. Jesus is very real and personal to me. However, so is Paganism---the broad definition. I know different constructs of being now. It brings me to a very humble position. And it makes me stringent with my former faith...but only in such a way that I want to bridge Christians to a greater sense of their own God. I know I fail often to be peace-loving in the process. It is hard to be a destroyer archetype as I have always seemingly been without destroying. I embrace One Love to grow more adept at being and remembering who I AM in that love. I hope it will one day enable me to be Christ Consciousness and a bridge for Christianity to a powerful revelational stance that includes all of us and all of our being---not just a form of conservatism.

Other Beliefs Outside Christianity

© 2014 Joan Elizabeth


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    • Righteous Atheist profile image

      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      Understood - I will stop trying to help you see anything. After all - "The evidence is plain." ciao

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      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      Again...we have to disagree. No more time to spend on this. I wish you the best.

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      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      No - I am just trying to get you to understand why your (generic you) beliefs always lead to conflicts - as you so clearly talked about here. I have presented you with an alternative view that will help reduce those conflicts. Reality is reality and there is only one. Your "subjective reality" is simply in your head and no where else. I have no "beliefs" as such. You do not embrace my path - your opening sentence claims it is wrong and you are right. I am pointing out that by claiming the one true path is yours - as you have done in this hub - is the reason for the conflicts. Pretending that you "embrace" mine while at the same time telling me it is wrong is the root cause of the conflicts believers always cause. "The evidence is plain" is not a statement open to compromise or acceptance of other views. Thus - when you claim to be embracing other paths - you are not being truthful. The evidence is plain and you reject all other paths. This is the cognitive dissonance I am trying to explain. You think you are embracing other paths/views when you clearly reject them completely. You don't even seem to be aware that you are doing so. Most believers are so blinded by their beliefs they do the same. Hence the conflicts. :(

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      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      I guess this dialogue is going to be...perpetual. LOL

      No, you are entering into an "arguement" that is one sided...yours. I am not denying anything about "subjectivity." In fact, I embrace the individuality of your path, my path and everyone else's path. You, on the other hand, are being the pot calling me the kettle black because I do not embrace your subjectivity as my personal or collective truth. Therefore, in this instance, you are the only inevitable conflict. I am not giving up my path. Neither, emphatically, are you giving up yours. I accept this peacefully and earnestly and trust that we will both eventually be rid of even the desired necessity to pontificate your reality versus mine. I read all your statements and because I don't agree with your belief then you throw accusations my way that conflict is resulting from my perspective which to you creates cognitive dissonance. Clearly---pull out a fine tooth comb and a mirror. The comb is to examine the fact that you are instigating the need for conflict that you propose to want to dispel. The mirror is to help you realize that you are the one being defined by your arguement...not me or anyone else. Only you.

      Regardless...enjoy your thoughts, your path and your Way.

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      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      Not trying to instigate - just trying to make believers understand why their beliefs often lead to conflict. As you so clearly stated in this hub. Your implacable belief that you know what the future holds is one of those things. The impossibility of reconciling your beliefs with reality is another one. The cognitive dissonance created means you must reject any other option - hence the inevitable conflicts. If believers could understand that their "reality" is wholly subjective, perhaps we could stop the conflicts you discuss here. But - that would mean giving up the beliefs that you cherish and - clearly - you are not open to that. You already know that science will prove you right in the next few years. :(

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      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      You do love to instigate...enjoy your path.

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      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      Odd - you wrote this entire hub about conflicts caused by religious belief and are not interested in learning why or how to stop that. Claiming to know what the future holds is one of the reasons. Looking forward to the "spiritual scientific advances" that will show your beliefs are not irrational after all. I should last another 5-10 years. LOL

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      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      Ah.......and so we must agree to disagree. C'est la vie---your version or mine. Goodnight pot. Yours truly, kettle.

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      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      Not trying to pick a fight at all. Just trying to explain why these beliefs cause the sort of conflicts this hub talks about. Oh well - No I don't accept your claims to know the future - sorry. There is only one reality - your perception of it is somewhat skewed. Looking forward to science proving that your irrational bekliefs are not really irrational in the next 5-10 years though. lol

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      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      Noted. But, I believe reality is quite individualized and quite expansive. Thanks for the heads up all the same.

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      Mark Knoles 4 years ago


      Don't fall for his little tricks. He is trying to pick a fight and also drum up some business. LAWL!!! Majik!

    • JoanEB1970 profile image

      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      Ah the pot calls the kettle

    • Righteous Atheist profile image

      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      No - there is only one reality. Sorry. Not open to the possibility that what I said has truth to it? OK. Didn't think you would be - you already know it all. lol

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      Joan Elizabeth 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, VA

      Thanks for your comment. I appreciate your reality. It is as valid as my own.......Life is one big toy box.

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      Righteous Atheist 4 years ago

      What a shame. So much conflict caused by these beliefs. As they say - "The truth will set you free." And the truth is - there is no such thing as divine. It is all internal and subjective. No Pagan no Christian. Just myths that we seemingly fail to understand time and time again. Let it all go and reject the idea that there is a god and you know it personally when in fact you don't. End the conflict caused by beliefs that conflict with reality and the conflicts will stop. The Christians are so aggressive because of this internal conflict. Reality says there is no such thing as Jesus Christ. Accept that and look inside instead of outside and you will feel the peace that comes with accepting reality.


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