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Hell and a Holy God

Updated on July 12, 2020
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I am a Christian pastor who wishes to bring glory to God in all that I do, and to help people through my writing to know Him better.

Introduction: The Bible Teaches Hell's Reality

On an American troopship during the Second World War, the soldiers crowded around their chaplain, asking, `Do you believe in hell?' He answered, 'I do not.'

`Well, then,' they said, 'will you please resign, for if there is no hell we do not need you; and if there is a hell we do not want to be led astray.'

Hell, as a place of eternal torment for sinners is not something that people like to discuss. Of course, the word is used often in other ways by this world. But the Bible sees Hell as an actual place, where real beings will go when they die. It is seen as a place of punishment and Scripture tells us that, just like Heaven is eternal, so is Hell.

Many who hear what Scripture has to say about this subject will ask the question: "Why would a loving God send people to Hell?" Others will try to lessen what the Bible says about it and say that it is not a place of eternal torment and separation from a Holy God. Rather it is the annihilation of those who don't accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Rather than spending eternity in punishment, they simply are destroyed so that they cease to exist.

Further, some say that they don't want to go to Heaven because all of their friends are in Hell and they want to be with them. They see it as a kind of alternative place to exist in order to enjoy for eternity the carousing and "fun" that they and their friends had on earth.

What we need to do is to clear up these faulty conceptions, both of God and of the real place called Hell. We must get back to the true biblical understanding of this horrible place in order to be able to preach the good news that, though all are born in sin and bound for Hell, no one has to end up there.

To accomplish this, we must look at three questions. First we have to ask: "What are the biblical words to describe Hell? Secondly we have to know "What Hell is?" And finally we'll answer the ultimate question: "Why Does it exist?"

I. Biblical Words for Hell

First of all, what are the words that the Bible uses to describe what we know in English as Hell? There are several terms that we must define.

The word Sheol occurs 65 times in the Old Testament. It is often translated as 'the grave', 'death', 'destruction', and 'the pit.' It defines the general abode of the dead, or a place where life no longer exists. The Old Testament specifically uses this term as the abode of the unrighteous dead (Psalm 49:13-14).

The New Testament Greek equivalent of Sheol is Hades. It is also often associated with the torment of the wicked. Hades is described as a prison with gates, bars and locks. And its location is downward.

Another Greek word used in the New Testament is Gehenna. This term was originally derived from the Valley of Hinnom. It expresses the place of final judgment and punishment for sinners. In the Old Testament, the Hinnom Valley, South of Jerusalem, became a place of child sacrifice to the pagan god Molech. Later the Jewish people used this as a dumping ground for garbage, dead animal carcasses, as well as executed criminals. Fires continually burned there in order to consume the garbage and dead bodies.

Eventually Gehenna became associated with the place where the wicked suffer in death.

According to many theologians the term "Lake of Fire" found in the book of Revelation in 5 places, and "Outer Darkness", spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 8:12; Matthew 22:13 and Matthew 25:30, are synonymous with this place called Gehenna. If that is the case, then these terms are all references to the ultimate Hell to which unbelievers are cast after the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11-15. We see in verse 14 of Revelation 20 that "death and Hades" were cast into the Lake of Fire. And it is referred to as the "second death."

There is some discussion amongst evangelicals as to whether the flames are symbolic of God's judgment here or actual fire. But no matter where you stand, the worst thing about Hell is that it is a place of complete conscious, guilty, shameful separation from God and all that is good and holy. And because of this it is the worst experience anyone can imagine.

A final word that is translated as hell in the Bible is the Greek term Tartarus. Tartarus also designates a location of eternal punishment. In the secular Greek world, they viewed it as a place where rebellious gods and wicked humans were punished.

The New Testament only uses this term once in II Peter 2:4 where it talks about God casting the angels who sinned into hell or Tartarus and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the day of judgment."

So those are the words. Now that we have an idea of what vocabulary that the Bible uses to describe this terrible place of punishment called Hell, lets see what is actually said of it by Scripture.

II. What is Hell?

In order to understand Hell properly, let us ask a question? What would you think of a judge who refused to sentence those who broke the law? How about if you heard about a judge who had people come into his courtroom over and over again for all sorts of crimes, from misdemeanors to murder and just let them all off with a light slap on the wrist, and simply said: "Hey, don't do that again!" What would you call such a judge. Well, I'd call him unemployed.

And yet some of the same people who would run that imaginary judge out of town on a rail, would look at God and ask Him why there needs to be a Hell. They want Him to just overlook those who would break His holy laws, and refuse to repent and accept His sovereignty over the universe. They'd prefer a God of love, who was not also a God of justice.

My question to these people is: Do you really want that? Do you want a God who will look over the most heinous of sins and just say: "Oh well!" Most of us think that there have been major miscarriages of justice that have taken place in history. And all us would agree that there have been people that have lived that have committed such major atrocities that they deserve something more than what they got; (Adolf Hitler, just to name one). And if there is no Hell, that will never happen. They will have literally gotten away with murder, or torture, or rape or any number of major sins that you can think of.

Hell is necessary, because it demonstrates the holiness and justice of God. It is the ultimate place that beings go who will not follow the God of the universe.

And the Bible paints a sad picture of this abode that any person should want to avoid. It is seen as a place of conscious torment. Jesus himself believed in a literal hell and anytime he spoke of it there was a consciousness of the persons there.

The belief by some that people simply are annihilated and cease to not what Jesus taught. He spoke of weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 13:50). And in his story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:14-31, the rich man was consciously suffering in hell as he spoke to father Abraham who was with Lazarus in paradise, or Abraham's bosom, as it is called there.

And he implied that Hell was both eternal and irreversible after death. Jesus taught that hell was a place:

"where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" in Mark 9:48.

Further, He actually referred to it as the place of eternal punishment for the unrighteous in Matthew 25:46 as opposed to the place for the righteous which would be the enjoyment of eternal life. This verse tells us:

"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Also, according to Scripture, Hell is a place of fire where the unrighteous will be gathered and thrown into. (Matthew 3:12; Matthew 13:41,42; 13:50).

As unpleasant as it may sound this shows the horror of being in Hell and the need for us to tell others about it before it is too late.

Finally, Hell is the abode of those who have rejected God's rule. Those who go there will be separated from the Lord for eternity.

II Thessalonians 1:9 says::

."They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the LORD and from the glory of his might."

Now that we know what Hell is, let us look at why it is there in the first place.

III. Why Does Hell Exist?

I. Hell was Created for Satan and His Angels

According to the Bible, Hell was not originally created for the punishment of men. Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself said that it was prepared for the devil and his angels. (Matthew 25:41). It was made because Satan rebelled against a holy God and wanted to be a god himself. Remember the five "I wills" of Satan recorded in Isaiah 14:12-14. These verses show us His arrogance. They tell us:

"How have you fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn. You have been cut down to the earth, you who have weakened the nations! But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven, I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly in the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High."

Hell was originally created for a creature, and his followers, who was so arrogant and prideful that He actually believed that he could be like the maker and sustainer of the universe. The creature who was made was saying to the creator: "I'm better than You and refuse to listen to You. I will take your place!"

II. Mankind Has Also Rebelled Against God

The interesting thing is that the same sin that was the downfall of Satan is what he tempted Eve with in the Garden of Eden. In trying to get her to eat fruit from the forbidden tree and openly rebel against God in Genesis 3:5 he told her:

"For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Scripture tells us that Eve was deceived and ate. Adam, on the other hand, ate with full knowledge of what he was doing. And in Romans 5:12, it says that by one man sin entered into the world.

Man has been in open rebellion against the living God ever since. Romans 1 records the depth of their depravity. And that depravity came from that rebellion. Let's look at a few verses:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them, for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man, and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. (18-23)."

God allowed His creatures free will. He allowed them to openly rebel. The next verse states that He "gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity" (24). However, because He is a Holy and just God, He cannot allow this rebellion to go unpunished. Ultimately, sin is rebellion and an open defiance of God. And there must come a day when He makes things right again.

III. Man Chooses Hell Over God

I like the words of C.S. Lewis because I believe that they sum up why anyone goes to Hell. He states:

"There are two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done" and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and consciously desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened."

I saw recently a picture on Facebook of a group of youths who appeared to be teenagers. And there was one smiling while holding up a sign that read: "Going to Hell and Proud of it!" That is the sad reality for many people. They are in open rebellion against the God of the universe and choose Hell over Him.

And as long as anyone refuses to come to God in faith, acknowledging his or her sin and rebellion against a holy God, they will remain in their sins. They won't have any hope of heaven, and are bound for a godless eternity, separated from the one that they refuse to acknowledge.


The bottom line is that everyone will exist in one of two places in eternity: Heaven or Hell. And we all have one life to determine our destiny. That destiny is determined by whether or not a person places their trust in Christ alone to save them.

John 3:36 says it quite clearly:

"He that believes on the Son has everlasting life. And he that believes not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

The Lord has provided a way of escape from Hell. Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, came to earth, and lived the righteous life we could not live. And He died on the cross as punishment for the sins we couldn't pay (II Corinthians 5:21).

But He rose from the grave as proof that God the Father accepted His sacrifice on our behalf. And all who believe in Him have life through His name.

One day Christ will return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and He'll take all who have trusted Him to live with Him forever in the place He has prepared.

The question in your mind should not be: "Why is there a Hell?" The question should be: "Why should I choose Hell, when the Lord has graciously provided a way of escape?" I pray that you'll choose Heaven.

The choice is for each of us to make while we live on this earth. May we all choose wisely!.

© 2012 Jeff Shirley


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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      This "belief of mine" as you call it is a belief in the Bible as God's Word, and a belief that Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of God. Jesus talked more about Hell than He did Heaven, and He says that it is not inconsistent with God's love, mercy and grace.

      And it doesn't glorify me. I didn't come up with the doctrine. It has been taught by the Christian Church for as long as there has been a Christian Church, for over 2000 years.

      God created beings with free will. The only way He could create a being which would never rebel against Him and thus lead to a need to have a place of separation from Him is to create a being that cannot think for himself. He would be no better than a robot.

      Also, I was one of those people who came to Jesus Christ because he saved me from hell and has promised a place with Him in heaven. I am saved by the grace of God. And my relationship with Him is more than just a fire escape. He is a wonderful God and Father, whom I trust with my life, and with the life to come. I love Him more each and every day, and He has always been there, to guide me and lead me. I cannot imagine life without His eternal love and grace.

      I don't serve Him because I fear Hell. I serve Him because I am grateful for all He has done, is doing and will do for me.

      Hell is nothing to fear for the Christian. Christ has provided the way to Heaven. I will spend the rest of my life thanking God for all that He's done for me.

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      8 years ago from Burlington

      If you combine a carnal view to scripture with fear, blind ego, self-righteous pride, a hidden desire for vengeance and spark the religious engine with a pharisitical spirit. You get a determined believer of hell. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence for both His purpose and pleasure who He knew in advance without mercy would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him a hypocrite with the utmost malignity. Simply put, you know not God, nor do you know His mercy, love and true nature. This belief of yours of hell does not glorify God's purpose or pleasure. It glorify's you. Question. If someone reads your hub and suddenly has a new motivation of worshipping God only to avoid going to hell, is he saved?

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Salvation is of the Lord. The Scripture is clear that no man seeks after God on his own. We are dead in trespasses and sins. Without the convicting and regenerating work of the Spirit, none of us would be saved.

      And I like that last sentance that you gave: "He is not dependent on us to reach the whole face of the planet; we are dependent on Him." Good words. Thanks.

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      8 years ago

      A lot of people are confused about what the Gospel is. We cannot do the Gospel because it has already been done by Jesus Christ; what we do is follow God's laws by His grace and follow what He says.

      If we try to do the Gospel, we make ourselves the "saviour" instead of Him.

      "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. - John 6:44

      It says the Father draws those to Him, not us.

      There is a distinction between those that are witnesses for Jesus Christ and those that are deceived into believing that they are the "saviours" .

      Its not about a witness getting to the lost, but the One who draws the lost.

      We are witnesses for Jesus Christ out of obedience to Him; He is not dependent on us to reach the whole face of the planet; we are dependent on Him.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      Thanks for coming and reading. We can agree to disagree. And thanks for the compliment. God bless.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      Everyone who has a verbal witness has a choice. My hubs and profile tell my story. Thanks for the banter. Keep up the good writing.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      This debate is getting us nowhere, so I don't think I will keep the comments on this going much longer. You are assuming that everyone who has the verbal witness will get saved. God alone knows the heart. He knows whose heart is open to the gospel message and whose heart isn't. Salvation is of the Lord, and it is simply our job to present the message.

      And we could also add to it the debate about the free will of man and the sovereignty of God. Scripture tells us that no one seeks after God. All of us should be condemned. But by God's grace, those who have put their trust in Christ are not condemned. I don't claim to know all of the answers, but to take a major teaching of Jesus Christ, and of the Bible out because we don't fully understand it is not the answer.

      You never said whether or not you still claim to be a Christian , but a Christian follows the teachings of Christ. If He is indeed God in the flesh, then He wouldn't teach something that was not true. Especially something as serious as Hell. And He would know whether Hell was real or not. He says it is. For me to deny it is to call Him a liar and ultimately to say that He isn't who He says He is, because God does not lie.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      you say that "God will make sure the witness gets to the parts of the world that I have no control over, and He's not leading me into." How hard is it to imagine that there has been even one person in the history of the world that never heard the gospel?

      And when that one person stands before the Judgement Seat, What will the Judge say to him? I ask it this way because when I speak of millions, the answer is consistently that God will get a witness to them. Well, lets talk about one. Has one person lived and died without hearing the Gospel? Will he go to hell? The answer, according to the Bible is "of course he will". The one has been rendered without excuse. His sin condemns him. Never mind the "fact" that Jesus Christ, of whom this one has never heard, is the only remedy for sin. That is like telling a cancer patient that they are dying because they didn't have chemo. But the patient never heard of chemo and had no doctor, and no insurance. What good is the remedy if it is out of reach. You say God will send the witness, and I say that one by one people die and have died without such a witness.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      The way you come to terms with this doctrine is to realize that God is ultimately in control and the judge of all the earth will do right. It means that I have a responsibility in my sphere of the world to tell others about the good news of Jesus Christ, and will be held accountable for that shpere. And God will make sure the witness gets to the parts of the world that I have no control over, and He's not leading me into.

      To many Christians it may be a hypothetical doctrine, but I would suggest that it is one of the central tenets of the historical Christian faith.

      The reason Jesus came to earth was to save man from sin, death and Hell. He took our judgement upon Himself, so that we don't have to pay that debt of sin none of us could ever pay. Salvation takes us out of a state of eternal death and separation from a holy God, and places us in a state of eternal life as Sons and daughters of the living God. That is the gospel, the good news of God's grace. Thanks for commenting.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      I was in Papua new guinea after college. We treked deep into the jungle along the fly river. I saw people who as children, were cannibalistic. Their parents and on back, had no Christian witness. Christians seem proud that their god measures his holiness in terms the number of souls who will burn for eternity. If a person really comes to terms with this doctrine,he will either abandon the Faith or sell all he has to reach every person he possibly can with the gospel. For most christians this is purely hypothetical doctrine.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      No, I simply mean that if someone is truly looking for God, the Lord will graciously provide a way for them to be lead to faith. If the person is truly looking, it means that the Spirit of God has been working on their heart and showing them their need for God. Since the Spirit is doing that, then He will also provide someone to show the way to salvation.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      The belief that god will provide salvation to anyone who seeks him is interesting. Does that mean someone living in a location beyond the current missionary reach will be given the opportunity to be saved without the preaching of the gospel by another human being?

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      And yet God demonstrated both His justice and His mercy at the cross. We no longer have to face the wrath of an angry judge. We now can face the love, grace and mercy of a loving Father. And it's all because of Jesus. Thanks for commenting.

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      8 years ago from upstate, NY

      There's something about Hell that sobers you up! We tend to think God thinks like us, we tend to rationalize things and measure ourselves against one another. We may think, we're not that bad or I'm doing pretty good compared to so an so but His thoughts are higher than our thought and His ways are higher than our ways!

      You're right that God is a God of justice, if He wasn't, Jesus would have never been crucified for our sins. God is 100% just and 100% merciful, this is something that we can't entirely wrap our minds around.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      cam8510: You are right that we don't have all of the answers to everything. If you need all of the answers, then you'll never believe anything, including anything about Science, or any other discipline that requires seeking out knowledge. But we don't throw out what is plainly taught in Scripture because God never gave us all the answers, any more than a Scientist gives up on a certain belief because he can't explain, at the moment, how it all works.

      I absolutely do not believe that Scripture leaves any room for salvation apart from Jesus Christ. Acts 4:12 being just one reference: "Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name, under heaven, given among men whereby we must be saved." Also John 3:36 which states: "He that believes on the Son has everlasting life. And he that believes not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. "

      Even though the Bible does not state it directly, I do believe that there is enough there to tell us that there will be no one in Hell with the excuse that they simply had never had the chance to hear. Romans 1 tells us that men are without excuse. Also, verses like C.S. Lewis quoted from Jesus that: "Those who seek, find, those who knock, it is opened" give us a clue that if anyone is seeking after God they will be allowed to find Him.

      I must point out that Jesus clearly believed in Hell, and to dismiss Hell is is to question Jesus' authority. If we cannot trust the authority of Jesus, then what other authority do we have as Christians? I choose to trust Christ, knowing that He is in control of it all.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      GodTalk, I graduated from a conservative college in the south and majored in Biblical education with minors in pastoral ministries and missions. I am familiar with the explanations concerning the unreached. The plan, as presented in the New Testament, relies on the Gospel literally creeping around the world in the hands of missionaries. Millions have already lived and died without hearing the Gospel. Could it be that there will be people in heaven who never heard of Christ? I do not see that taught in the NT. I understand C.S. Lewis's point, but I do not see scriptural support for it. That is my only point really, that the Bible does not answer the question. I have faith in God that these questions have answers. It is my experience that the average Christian does not consider questions like this and I think it is legitimate to challenge their beliefs. It only makes us all stronger.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      If you were a pastor, then you probably know that there are a number of books written on the subject of people who have never heard of Christ. And I won't go into all of that here. Maybe, that needs another Hub. But, as C.S. Lewis so eloquently put it: "No soul that seriously and consciously desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek, find. Those who knock, it is opened."

      Abraham asked in Genesis 18:25 the rhetorical question: "Will not the judge of all the earth do right? " The Lord will see to it that anyone who wants to come to Him will do so. The trouble is that man by nature doesn't seek after God....Thanks for the comments.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      So the only alternative to heaven is an eternal lake of fire? Seems extreme for the nice family next door. They aren't child molesters. I understand the christian viewpoint. I preached it for ten years as an evangelical pastor. It has been mentioned here that only those who accept jesus go to heaven. It is my belief that the majority of people who have ever lived never heard of Jesus. I will stop since all of my views on this are in my hubs.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      Thanks lifegate for your comments. You are absolutely right. God is holy by nature and cannot be around sin, and heaven would not be heaven if sinful man went there. It would simply be an eternal place with all the problems and evils of this present life.

      Cam8510: Hell is eternal because the beings that go there refuse to repent and turn to the Lord. Satan and his demons first made that choice and they will continue to be in rebellion against their creator for eternity. Man's sin is the same. He was born with a sinful nature and is a sinner by choice as well. Only those who receive Christ get a new nature capable of pleasing God.

      Those who are in Hell would hate Heaven because they have to bow before the God of the universe, which they refused to do on this earth. Heaven, among other things, is where every knee bows before Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. People in rebellion would never do that. So they are separated from Heaven for eternity.

      tonie2weeks: You are right to say that God would never put His children in Hell. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that all men and women are the children of God. We are all the creation of God, but only those who come to Christ through faith are His children. This makes us heirs and joint heirs with Jesus Christ. And it makes fellow Christians brothers and sisters in Christ.

      That being said, as I said above, Hell is a place where people go who refuse to repent and turn to the God of the universe and accept His gracious offer of Salvation. God's justice and His great love were both demonstated at the cross. For God to accept someone into heaven apart from the cross is to ignore the fact that He is holy and, by nature, cannot look upon evil and sin.

      Everyone has a chance in this life to make the decision to follow the God of the universe. He has made it available to all who believe. But not all will believe. Not all will choose to bow before God, either now or in eternity.

      Heaven is a place prepared for a prepared people. Those who are transformed into the likeness of Jesus Christ are the ones who will occupy it. It will be a place where there is no more sin, no more mourning, or crying, or pain. If God allowed sinful creatures into heaven, this would never happen.

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      William Kovacic 

      8 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA


      I live in Central PA where Jerry Sandusky was just found guilty of child molestation. the jury returned a relatively quick verdict and the town outside the court house exploded with joy as news of the verdict came down. They wanted justice and they got it. We would not have wanted it any other way.

      I don't believe the only reason hell exists is for punishment. We were given eternal life when God breathed into Adam His breath. But sin cannot coexist with righteousness. Thus God cannot have a relationship with sinful man who is eternal.

      Hell is therefore necessary, not just as punishment, but because there is no other choice. And you're absolutely right--we make the choice.

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      8 years ago

      If I am a child of God as one who loves her own children, I must notice when things were not right and to teach them a better way to do things.Then to move on and ask them for suggestions. I would never ever, ever put my child in a firery hell forever, nor for 24 hours. If god is supposed to love me like i cannot imagine, therefore he loves me more than my children, then what do I have to fear... People who commit heinous crimes are sick and some way and need to be separated from the ones they hurt.this is not an easy thing to accept because we were raised with entitlement and we think we can be the ones to judge and sentence. I believe anyone who has experienced loving anyone unconditionally is very rich indeed. They might have no worries about a silly idea called hell

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      I simply don't believe in a god who would create people who didn't ask to be created, then punish them for all eternity in unspeakable physical and emotional torment, all for committing minor or major sins in the course of a relatively very brief lifetime.

      As for the Egyptian myths and biblical teaching on hell, yes, you are correct that the similarities may be due to having the same ancestors who knew about hell. The problem is, the Egyptian myths surfaced as early as 3000 BC while the biblical doctrine of hell was not revealed until the first century AD. It could be that early Christians adopted this teaching because it served their purposes in manipulating people's behavior. I personally have not committed myself to a particular viewpoint on this.

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      Jeff Shirley 

      8 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      It is hard for me to believe that anyone would want a god who would allow anyone to get away with anything that they chose to do. I imagine your tune would change if someone did something unspeakable to you, or worse yet, someone that you loved. You'd want retribution.

      As far as the Egyptian story is concerned, that can be answered by the common ancestery of the human race. At one time everyone knew the God of the universe. Though man threw away God, some remnants of the knowledge of God remained. But of course, each civilization put its own twist to the stories that were told. That would also explain the common flood stories that various civilizations had as well. Thanks for reading.

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      Chris Mills 

      8 years ago from Traverse City, MI

      You asked this question in your hub. "Do you really want that? Do you want a God who will look over the most heinous of sins and just say: "Oh well!"' My answer is YES, if I am the guilty one standing on the edge of a lake of fire. I have a reading suggestion for you. It is at this site You will find the ancient Egypytian text called the Am-Tuat. It was translated by Wallis Budge in the early 20th century. It is a hard read, but if I could do it so can you. There is a lot to wade through until you get to the part about the Egyptian view of the afterlife for the enemies of Ra. It is very interesting. Most Christians, I believe, would refuse to read this. It speaks of a place which is identical to the Bible's Lake of Fire, but was written as much as 2500 years earlier. Like I say, most Christians won't read it. Why? Fear? Pride? Laziness?


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