Is emotional abuse a valid reason for a person to get a divorce? Or should the spouse believe for a supernatural transformation?
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The original languages of the Bible are the best.
…10But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband 11(but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife. 1
The context of 1 Corinthians 7 assumes that the marriage covenant has been unbroken, it does not apply when the covenant has been broken according to the original Greek meaning of adultery.
the question was about a Christian woman, so the mormon cult is not applicable
She can separate but not divorce for this reason in new testament
A Mormon prophet once said: “The abuse of one’s spouse and children is a most serious offense before God, and any who indulge in it may expect to be disciplined by the Church.” You have incorrect information. And we are Christians.
Agreed! The Scripture says "WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER..." Does anyone think that God joined anyone abusive together? Does He makes mistakes?
Well.....said.......May God continue his blessings in your life.........
This is mature Christianity, if we can so it; I'd like to read your book. Still, I can't believe an infant responsible if parents physically abuse & kill him/her. One philosophy says targets learn a lesson, but what did the dead 1-month old lear
I think what he is saying is good or bad things happen to us not because we cause them, but just because your always going to have good & evil.The way we get through the ups & downs in life is what makes us a victim. When you understand that
God was grieved upon sending the flood. If you are going to read the story so narrowly, at least recognize he did it reluctantly. Also, only in the post Charles Hodge, pro-Mark Driscoll era could a one dimensional, uninformed reading like this happe
David, Kudos! you hit something, whether original or not. IF one can substantiate a true change and have the force, will or ?? to carry it through.. however some are trapped in abusive relationships from inner beliefs, fears and low esteem.
I thought about another thing. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. There something you can do. That
Thumbs up! You are a wise person.
I thought you were a Christian, Mundane?
@Robert the Bruce - False assumptions again from you... Just because I don't fall for the asinine religion of speciation via primordial soup and the long lost theory of evolution or the big bang of baloney, doesn't make me a Christian; duh!
I agree. In practice, we found those who abuse others having too difficult a time stopping, even with intervention, incarceration, or treatment. For myself, one red flag & I drop the acquaintance, block email, black phone #, etc.
I understand that view, however I do not agree. The christian faith does not state anywhere to remain in an unHoly marriage, family or association of any kind.
Southerncali girl if someone strictly believes what (1 Corinthians 7:39 ) states: "A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives." You can understand why some women (choose) to cop out and stay in unhappy marriages. Divorce is rarely easy.
very good point dashingscorpio.
This is true in every Bible translation I have read, but I still can't believe God wants us to suffer & die as many do in abuse -- I suppose the abused are to change abusers with a kind example, but , God forgive me, I'd leave.
Abuse is infidelity - just harder to prove to others. It is being unfaithful to the promise you made in marriage to love your wife as you love yourself. God referred to unfaithfulness as adultery throughout the Bible.
@Kathleen Your point makes me rethink what I thought was true. However, God sees the remarriage as a sin not the divorce itself. That's what I was thinking. You?
Most "Christians" I know are the worst people I know. They don't even know their own religion. Cheers to you.
actually, the christian faith does not encourage misery. the faith is based on a loving, caring, forgiving God. nowhere does it state to remain in a marriage that has turned into anything unGodly.
***** FAITH IN GOD *****
"I hate divorce," sas the LORD God of Israel, "and I hate a man's covering himself with violence as well as with his garment," says the LORD Almighty. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith.
you will hear the voice of conscience ceaselessly, day n night if you truly listen. Pray for the gift of hearing and act accordingly. Books, no matter how inspirational, are about people's lives. You are a veryspecial book . Love yourself.
The percentage of wives abusing husbands are smaller than that of the abuse by the husbands, thus being totally worth focusing on. My suggestion is if you want to see a question about wives abusing husbands then ye should create one! Just saying....
I disagree. Flipping husband and wife in this question would make the answers different as women are regarded differently from men in the Bible. It would have to be a separate question and it would get some different answers.
Abuse is a claim of ego, and ego is the enemy of love.
I got here late but this is the true and Biblical answer here. Also one over looked part is the vow, people make a vow individually to God to remain married to their spouse until death do you part. And God takes vows Very seriously.
The teaching in your Bible, if this is it, is psychologically and emotionally sick. I'm only glad that, according to our constitution at least, we live in a secular country wherein you are free to tout this stuff but it is not enshrined in law.
I can assure you those above fail to account for room for nuance in the text. Despite their insistance on biblical "rules", I imagine they would balk at Jesus commandments to lend to enemies without repayment or not punish theft (Luke 6:27-36).
Actually whether or not you like it or believe it, it is forever settled in Heaven. It is the Word of God. Its in there if youll read it.
As for lending to so called enemies, i have, but what does that have to do with this subject?
My point is 2 fold. 1. You insist on a shallow reading of Scripture. Christ allows for divorce when a partner has been disloyal to the marriage covenant, abuse fits. 2. I strongly doubt your literal adherance to every biblical command. Why here?
So if a person does divorce they are not sinning but they are not permitted to re marry. They must remain unmarried or be reconciled to Their spouse, no other options.
obelia, if I agree with you, I also would say that the same thread carries that you are released from staying single if and when the other spouse remarries. you cannot be reconciled to him/ her, and biblically you are free; you were not in the wrong.
in the days of moses they did divorce
Bible says that God hates divorce and a woman can't divorce her husband for abuse on biblical views, the only way is if he cheated then she can divorce him without a sin. I know it is hard for those woman out there that get abused everyday. ):
Abuse is a character of a cheater.... cheating is not meant sexual only.
Now this I can say AMEN TO!!!!
LOL it's funny that you say that because it is nothing more than a book and has no power over man nor woman. I think they are better off doing what they wish to do regardless of how people may react. :)
That would be fine with me in a case of abuse.
The phrase "God Hates" shows that he is not an all loving God. His teachings are arbitrary and contradictory. I don't know why people follow a God that kills and hates.
1 Corinthians 7:39 "A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord." Women initiate 66% or 2/3rds of divorce filings in the U.S.A. LOL!
The Evolutionary God says yes all is in control with their lives for they have the power to be and do who and what they want!! Remarry, Divorce, hell if it saves lives I am all for it!! Stop with the control and give women freedom to live their way!!
but only if you are unable to forgive because of your hard heart, which is the better way
How does any of this help her if he's just a cruel heartless man? A man that is emotionally abusive won't wake up and be nice. You are talking her into denying her own heart to have love for a man that hurts her? Because the bible tells us so?
The bible is an control weapon that was designed to give men power over all, it is with this, I say unto you all as a man, Women are more Superior Than men for the shear fact we men can't populate without the women and without the women life dies!!!
oh? even if he is a sadist and his excitement is to torture you?
I am sorry but all Christianity is about is complete control over their members! A man who beats on a woman deserves to be locked up and with life being in our control the women have the right to do what they want when they want regardless of belief!
The bible also says homosexuals should be put to death and then in another verse they should be outcasted. God himself doesn't know what he wants if you really pay attention to what you are reading.
The Bible is not a living breathing being, why let it control your lives? Be free and live without male control, be Superior Ladies, step up and take charge in your lives do what is right for you, screw what others may say or think!
The "institution of marriage" is a secular, legal contract, not church or god-based. If you wish to enter into a promise in the context of your church or god, that is a different matter.
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This is ridiculous! A husband that is verbally abusing his wife will not give his cooperation on working on the marriage and do all the things you say. Ask me, I know from experience.
Very well said! I also am a woman who has been in an abusive relationship. God taught me to love the "unloveable". Because of the transformation within ME, God was able to move in my husbands life. Seek Ye First The Kingdom Of God... Matt 6:33 WWJD!
I like that.
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
I can only say:
I thank God that Jesus didn't also take this selfish outlook. Although sweating blood from the thought of what he'd endure, he wanted the Will of the Father.
Without which we'd all be damned to hell and tormentation...FOR ETERNITY.
Everyone relies on this damn book like it's some kind of miracle but I say unto you all, through all my research and hard dedicated work, I worked hard to shed some light and bring honor back to the female population, who's lives were destroyed by it
thank you Pastor for stating truth!!
You are welcome Southerncali girl
The answer is No. You can not find in the bible where it states anywhere that a woman is to give a man the certificate of divorce. That is only man's law to create equality between the two genders.
Marriage is left up to us From God.
1 Timothy: God does call us to live in Peace...a divorce is contrary to that. Change begins with US!
I Corinthians: If her husband leaves her....then let the will of God be. Again, Look within, the problem often lies there. Fireproof: the movie...
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