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Therefore the question does God exist independant of belief
My definition of God for this question is the Judeo-Christian definition of God.
I hear ya.
but the only thing belief proves in the absent of truth or proof
is that the believer believe what he or she believes is true.
which doesn't mean it true or not true it just means they believe it true. That's all it proves.
How then are beliefs (mind concept) formed? They are formed from knowledge...Truth(complete knowledge) and Falsehood (incomplete knowledge).
Proof what is it? again knowledge - complete(truth) , or incomplete(falsehood) . The proof is the mind.
knowledge is anything you know whether, true or false
Proof is evidence.
You can believe something's true based inconclusive proof, on no proof, or conclusive proof
Mind is not proof. mind asists in finding proof
Proof belongs to the mind and your mind cannot find the proof to accept the things I say. Why ? The knowledge is not present...
By the same token, I will not consider God's non existence until I see proof of it.
What does he look like?