If God does not have to answer to anyone, or rather, if he does not have to explain himself to anyone, how is he (lets just assume its a he) different from a dictator?
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you cant compare a human father-son relationship to one with an omnipotent being, not the same, and no I cant think of people a dictator should explain himself to since 1 definition of a dictator says that a dictator can make decisions without effect
"you cant compare a human father-son relationship to one with an omnipotent being, not the same" - that was kind of my point, you can't compare God to men, father or dictator. And, a dictator DOES do things without approval but SHOULD he?
I am not comparing him to a dictator, Im saying he is a dictator, I keep saying this; a dictator can be any being, check your dictionary it does not specify that only humans can be dictators, it makes mention of no specific being or species, therefor
I understand, but it is a comparison; a dictator (as we use the term) dictates to others, 'others' like himself, he has no right and can be overthrown, etc - God, as creator, has every right and cannot be overthrown, it's a false comparison/analogy.
No you do not understand, I am not using the term as we use it, Im using it the way in which the worlds dictionary suggest it is to be used, therefor i am not comparing him to a dictator, I am saying he IS a dictator, if an all powerful alien had to
Ok, but, you ask "what's the difference" and there aren't transferable features, it's not like a mayor is the dictator of a city but like I am the dictator of my library, my books have no say, I own them, their purpose is to serve my interest.
The definition of dictator does not suggest that only those who can move physical matter only are dictator, any being that assumes sole and absolute unquestionable rule/power is a dictator
Lone, to each his own. I've seeked and found nothing my whole life. For some of us it just doesn't happen.
peeples (if I may) ~ I honestly hate these kinds of statements, but truly, perhaps if you stop seeking and simply be still and know . . . I believed when I was not seeking, the text of Scripture became clear when I just surrendered to it's truth.
The blind are frequently certain of the lack of existence of those things they cannot see.
and the small minded are frequently certain of the existence of things they read so long as it is in a book revered by majority of people
Amen Lone. Even Helen Keller knew there was a God.
(assuming that God exists) he is a dictator, just because Im still alive doesnt mean he isnt, there are other ways that dictators punish those who dont follow them, did God not uses plagues, the great flood etc to punish those who didnt follow his wo
Im a bit confused, are you saying he is or isnt a dictator?
I said there are no literal dictators, and so the question has no meaning.
so in other words there is no such thing as a person who puts laws in place for their own benefit?
That's how you define "dictator?" Strange. I never thought of lobbyists in that way.
well clearly my definition is incorrect, just looked it up in the dictionary and it says its an absolute ruler, correct me if Im wrong but are you not suggesting that there is and there has never been such a thing as a dictator, that the word has bee
Attempting to extrapolate that last comment, I assume you were going to ask if I say there never has been an absolutely absolute ruler in the long, sad history of human politics. Yes, that is absolutely what I say. Absolute power is like infinity.
dont really know what happened there but to finish off the last part of my last comment, are you suggesting that the word has been used loosely?, in terms of the definition of dictator, absolute refers to something that cannot be questioned, absolute
You've got the idea.
absolute in this context does not mean forever/infinity, it means unquestionable, definite rule, therefor your claim of absolute power being infinite is irrelevant in the context of this discussion...
I take it back. You don't have the idea. Absolute power does not exist among humans. It is the characteristic of an omnipotent divine being. The question itself is therefore meaningless in its assumption of equivalency between two unequal conditions.
aaah but is it not my way or you going to hell?, is it not you can do whatever you want but dont do whatever you want?
No, I'm going to Heaven because I HAVE BEEN SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD. Through the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ.
And Im going to hell because I choose not to believe in something noone can prove or disprove?
It's your choice my Friend. But, Every word in the Bible has been proven. Most has come to fruition.
and because I made the choice (through the use of free will) Im going to hell?, and where is this observable or quantifiable proof, would you be able to show it to me?
He can no more provide physical proof of god than we can provide proof of no god. In all fairness none of us REALLY know.
true, thank you for sharing
Good points, @JT. @Pac, yes, but it's more than deciding to disbelieve. God doesn't "punish" you for jumping off of a building. You do that to yourself.
He does punish me for jumping off a building, he sends me to hell for eternity because I decided to exercise my free will
You do have a choice. Jesus Christ ( A MAN) selfishly died for your sins on the cross. Beaten and tortured beyond comprehension. ALL he wants is to be excepted? Is that too much to ask for what he has done for us? Your fate is is your hands.
I realise I have made quite a few grammer and spelling mistakes in this comment, I ask that you ignore them for the sake of the discussion
If God made us with free will so we could be something more than toy robots, then He would have provided the freedom for us to exercise it. He would not dictate the workings of the world. He would be neither an idealized dictator nor a micromanager.
does he not give instrunctions on how 1 should live their life?, does the bible not say what you can or can not do, does he not say that his way is the only right way and that it should be the only way that is followed?
Some take it so. Others pay more attention to that "I will gather all my lost sheep back into my fold" bit and believe there is no wrong way, that not being in the Kingdom doesn't condemn you to hell at all. There is no single doctrine.
those who believe there is no wrong way are clearly retarded, arent the 10 commandment not the single doctrine?
thank you all for commenting, through your comments and answers I have gathered enough information to write my first hub, really hope yal
Your open, questing mind is an inspiration to all. I'm sure your Hub too will rise to that high standard.
I would encourage you to be sure you understand the authentic message of Christianity - it's simply not about being good & doing right, Jesus didn't come to teach how we're suppose to live, He came to accomplish the atonement. It's about relation