I have already spoken to many Muslims about why they are not christian so now I wish to hear the other view. So far it seems Christians don't know much about Islam and when they learn about it along with the faults of christianity then they often convert; however, few convert to Christianity from Islam. My family are Christian and I have friends of all faiths so don't be offended, I am just interested in what people have to say
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Oh wow, lots of errors! Try to read through it. Sorry.
You more or less cover (deeper) my findings.
The Torah and the Christian bible are conclusively by the same 'author' as they do not conflict each other, and in fact confirm each other,
The Q'ran is patently by a different 'author'.
Why would I delete this? I said I was interested to hear different opinions.
The Qur'an states that Jesus was a prophet, like Muhammad and the other prophets - equal. But not the son of God nor God himself. For some reason I have a character limit..
The Qur'an denies Jesus as Gods son. If you believe the Qur'an you believe the word was handed down from God/Allah to Gabriel and then passed onto Muhammad though visions to scribe in order to pass it to the Pagan Arab people.
lovelyjubbly, that wasn't directed at you. I just wouldn't be surprised if it got reported or something petty. It hasn't been the first time it has happened to me.
Its the authenticity of the document. If you believe the bible to be more correct and less corrupt than the Qur'an than your going to view the Qur'an as wrong. And vice versa. Its all very hard to explain here.
But I just proved that theory wrong, with what I wrote in the above answer to the question. Exactly what I proved.
No Ceegen you may want to reread. You basically argue Islam as being wrong according to the Bible. If the Qur'an is 100% true and only accepts a portion of the Bible to be true and good the portion that denies The Qur'an is corrupt. Its about POV.
No, that's not true. Because if the Qu'ran is true, then it literally proves that the bible is what it says it is. The "book between his hands" (literally between his physical hands) is confirmed to be true. How can that be misinterpreted?
Because if the Qur'an is true than not all of the bible is correct. The Qur'an says that it itself is the only scripture not corrupted, that it needed to be written because all others were/are corrupt.
But that's been proven false, with things like the scroll of Isaiah discovery in the "dead sea scrolls". They are meticulously copied from generation to generation, done very strictly under supervision, to ensure that there are no errors or changes.
Well that doesn't matter to those who first accept the Qur'an.
Apparently it does:
That was coming from a former Muslim, a lawyer even! He saw this, because being a lawyer, he saw the logical progression of evidence and where the texts lead to (theologically).
I like it!
Allah said in the Quran ( verse 4-136 Al-Nisa ) : O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, Hi
But according to Mohammed, he never really did talk to God. He only received instruction from a mysterious "Gabriel" figure, who pretends to be from God. How do we know what this angel said, isn't just a bunch of lies, just to get people to fight?
People tend to convert when they know a lot so perhaps that's why :-) but it's no problem.. personal choice
Does not the Quran tell Muslims to treat "people of the Book" (Jews, Christians, Sabians) with respect? Doesn't this imply that there is no need or direction from God for these people to convert to Islam?
Excellent testimon Saved by Jesus
Have you ever read the Qur'an? I am just interested to know. Islam is very interesting when you learn a lot about it
Hi Lone77star, how do you know Mohammed was a great soul to be honored and respected. I'm not saying he shouldn't. I know absolutely nothing about him and believe all people should be respected. I'd just like to know something about Mohammed.
Perhaps that was coincidence? Perhaps not.. but have you ever considered it?
I don't belive they're coincidences. I'll write about it. There's power & in the name of Jesus. He's my lord, savior, & friend. Phillipians 2:5-11
I've researched other faiths, but haven't considered anything esle because I truly believe in i
Jesus uplifted and honored women, but not more than men. We are equals in God's eyes. "Churches" have divided us into camps of either "for" or "against" women. A sad state of affairs indeed.
I wonder if you need to read the Qur'an again for clarity. Islam emphasises equality, and gives many rights to women. It is a misconception (that even I held earlier) that Islam is sexist and oppresses women.
lovelyjubbly, I would seriously reconsider you do a bit more searching. Ones that aren't as "Islam-friendly". I can assure you, just a glance at the daily news can give you a glimpse into how Islam treats women: They get raped, and commit adultery?
That is not an issue of the religion but more so the culture. If you read the Quran and know about Islam those kind of things are not permitted. Don't look at the followers look at the religion itself to get a clear view
Ceegan - It may not be the Qur'an which instills these actions, but the misinterpretation of it, just as many Christians have done similarly with the Bible in other aspects. And as lovelyjubbly said, the culture will have a strong influence as well
To clarify. The Qur'an and Sharia Law are two different things. It is the culture that I'm not into. No where in the Qur'an does it condone violence w/women. Cultural standards and requirements don't mesh w/me. Cultural reformation would do well.
No, the Qu'ran is pretty clear about violence, and any kind of it.
"The pinnacle of Islam, is Jihad."
They're only nice to women, until they run the country, and lying is a form of Jihad.
LOL No use of trying to enlighten the brainwashed.
I don't doubt there are "good Muslims" out there, but most of them leave Islam, and lots of those turn to Jesus Christ, because they know His name by the Qu'ran. They know that the bible is confirmed by Mohammed as being a book that God sent.
Ceegen-Where are you getting the idea that most leave Islam? I am just wondering if you have evidence or something of the sort. Also, Jihad refers more to the inner struggle with temptations from the devil etc.
Well said ThompsonPen & Violetheav
I am aware of that, and I am also aware of just why. They believe Jesus to be a prophet, equal to Muhammad.. they believe all the prophets to be equal.
Jesus' grave does not house his remains. Muhammad's remains are there. They cannot be equal in status. Don't know about Qu'ran. Was there any prophecy to proceed Muhammad? Did he rise from his grave and then appear in the ?flesh before others.
All the prophets are equal, so I believe. I think (though don't quote me) that Muslims do believe in the story of Jesus like you do.. as in, he will come back etc. Perhaps Jesus didn't actually die like people though? I need to look into this more
Soldiers pierced Jesus' side, then blood and water came out. That is what was observed. Some medical doctors have identified this as a massive heart failure of some kind. Jesus literally died of a broken heart, in being rejected even at the cross.
I want to look into those religions too. Thank you for your comment :-)
Hi Ctashita, Catholicism is considered Christianity as are protestant denominations because of the beliefs about Jesus Christ. My dad was Methodist. My mom was Baptist. I planned to be Catholic. I'm non-denominational but all of them are Christia
Interesting, thank you. It seems easier to grow up a cultural christian and almost have blind faith than in Islam.. I have never met a blind following Muslim - there are too many obligatory practices that you really need to believe to follow them.
I agree with you on reasoning. I'd like to add that cultural Christians do not have the "heart" faith that born again believers have. Sleeping in the garage does not a car make. Going to church does not a Christian make.
You are right about respecting people of other faiths being in the Quran.
Thank you for your words - they are lovely and insightful
So, you're not seeking the truth, you are seeking what sounds nicer? I too think "why not be Christian, I'll go to heaven then', but you don't follow the religion with that sounds the nicest, you follow the one that is correct.
I'm sorry I worded that wrong because I didn't want to debate this. I DO BELIEVE with all of my heart and soul Jesus Christ died on the cross for ALL of our sins. We have to accept him into our hearts and strive to live a life pleasing to God.