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These here that God chose I feel was clearly because of their love for Him, so again it really is the hearts reaching out to God that are chosen. Many scriptures point this out also.
John 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, WILL draw ALL men to Myself." Obviously, not ALL are saved, so this shoots 'irresistible grace' in the foot. We can choose to reject His drawing, but we will be drawn.
Strong words. Faithful words.
Compelling and passionate. I just have trouble with the tenses in your verbs. Did never has and never will translate fairly into does. I sure hope a parent does not treat a 15 year old like a two year -- if you get my point.
Pharaoh committed evil against God's people; therefore, God's judgment was upon Him. Pharaoh hardened his own heart; God hardened Pharaoh's heart - the rebellion against God happened first. And in regard to Esau, God foresaw Esau's future choices.
@ Judah's Daughter: Paul said,"sin is not imputed when there is no law".
There is no evidence in the Bible that Pharaoh had the law of God. Therefore, sin cannot be imputed.
Romans 9 CLEARLY says God hated Esau NOT because of what he done at any time
What does a get out of jail card supposed to mean?
There often is a misconception that Christians believe they can sin and it is alright because on Sunday they confess and are forgiven. Like they get out of consequences for free. Well it does not work that way and the main concept is found in repent.
If one confesses his sins and asks for forgiveness, he is not forgiven? That is exactly how it works. The church implements more legislation to its followers than Moses did to the Jews.
I think by AD they had about 800 laws. Confessing and asking forgiveness is not like a church ritual -- that is what I am saying. If you just try to play by rules, it does not work. You make it sound as though, if I say the words it works, nope.
Many are called but few are chosen. Broad is the way that leads to destruction and many travel on it, but straight is the way and narrow is he gate that leads to life and few find it. Also read hemustincrease and Prophetic Insight's answer.
Will and choice are two different things. It's wiser to use the word 'choice', for we cannot NOT choose to follow one or the other. No man can serve two Masters and there are only two. We must choose.
But the Bible says God gave us free will so that is why I used will either way it is our choice to follow God's will - the point is we reject Him not the other way around.
I love this response and totally agree. Thank you JenineMiana.
hemustincrease, I thought of this passage, too. We have a tendency to want to defend God's honour, but He is the Almighty and He is good. His decisions are just and right and we cannot always explain them within our human limitations.
So is Arminian theology
Rom 6:16 "Do you not know that when YOU present YOURSELVES to someone as slaves for obedience, YOU are slaves of the one whom YOU obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?"
Death? What form of death did Paul mean?
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