I have read in a few hubs that none of the Bibical prophocies have come to pass...What do you think?
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"The rebirth of Israel was implied by Revelation"? Please illuminate me.
My own take CJ, is that Israel is the main focus of the drama that unfolds in Revelation. How could this come to pass if Israel was not a country?
Israel already had its day in the sun and already fulfilled its destiny with Revelation. We are now already 1,942 years after the fact. I believe we are living in what the Bible refers to as the "age to come".
Are you a preterist?
KJV Bible, Matthew 21:43 and according to the Apocalypse of Peter, this nation would come from the Arabs.What other nation beside the modern Muslims of today bow down to GOD Almighty in the most proper way?
Planks...I am a Bible-believing follower of Yeshua and student of history. I don't follow misguided notions from the pulpit or from those who pick and choose what words they want to follow. What they follow is church traditions...I follow Christ.
Fair enough.The reference to AD 70 event was why I asked the question.Unfortunately, the comment section leaves little room to flesh out the differing perspectives.Maybe there is a hub in the making.What do you think? Prophecy can be "perplexing":)
Prophecy was never "perplexing".It s we who take one verse, or a partial verse; or even a loose translation of the Bible out of context in order to twist the words to find prophetic statements within or to legitimate wars against innocent nations.
If prophecy wasn't "perplexing" then there wouldn't be so many differing opinions on it.The answers posed here is evidence of that. If you are claiming you have all the answers concerning Biblical prophecy, the by all means write a hub.
I write when I want ,plus I don t claim that I know all the answers concerning Biblical prophecy:)
Planks: I've been flirting with the idea of writing a few hubs, explaining the erroneous concept of the "rapture", the truth about Armageddon and the true date of Revelation. I'm working on a couple projects already, so it'll have to wait its turn.
Besides,the birth of Israel is not a prophecy .It is a thorn in the Arabs world flesh.The land ,according to the Bible, that was promised to the descendants of Abraham was located between the river Euphrates and the river Nile in Egypt Genesis15:18.
Jesus in the Bible left no doubt that He will return again to complete His mission of salvation for mankind"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I WILL COME AGAIN, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." John 14:3
Christ's second coming happened already AD70.
I believe and actually see throughout the Bible that there are many more prophecies about Christ's second coming than His first coming.
Then why does Jhon in Revelation, say "Come soon lord Jesus"? Is the book of Revelation besides the point?
"Come soon Lord Jesus" That is exactly what He did a couple of years latter with the destruction of Jerusalem.
The Book of Revelation was written somewhere around 50 A.D. and is probably one of the very first New Testament Books, though it is listed last in the Biblical Canon. Paul even alludes to it in 2 Corinthians.
Though some date Revelation earlier, the mid-90s has the stronger support and is the opinion held by the majority. Tradition says John was exiled to Patmos during Emperor Domitian's persecution, who ruled A.D. 81-96.
Because most support the 90s is the reason why most dont understand its symbolic message.
That's right, Sword! The only support for a 96 A.D. event is Origen, who seems to remember St. John being freed from Patmos under Nerva. At best, Origen's recollection is second-hand and evidence suggests that St. John may not be Revelation's author.
There seems to be a real interest in apocalyptic visions, doomsday predictions, etc. these days. Christians should be countering these messages with visions of the kingdom of God, the eschaton, when all people will join together at the great feast.
The Israelites called it the Feast of Booths.
Zechariah envisioned a day when Sukkot (Feast of Booths) would become a universal festival. Currently, it is an agricultural celebration that looks back at the temporary dwellings they lived in during their wanderings. See Isaiah 25 for feast vision
I do not believe anything happening in the Middle East right now has anything to do with the Bible or Biblical prophecy.
There is a war that is coming that will precede Gog/ Magog; Zephaniah 2 alludes to an Iranian plot/Arabian alliance against Israel. I believe the things are ramping up to it unfolding before our eyes because of the ripe conditions for it happening.
I believe what most conservative scholars argue, that this psalm does not contain a prophecy but is a lament for a nation, Israel; as it manifests several characteristics common to laments in other psalms and other parts of the Bible.
@PlanksandNails,aren t Gog/ Magog defeated by Bush?
My take is that Gog/Magog are a Islamic confederacy of Nations that attack Israel in the Last Days.
It s your own interpretation,th book of Ezekiel doesn t say that.Before invading Iraq,Bush said t th President Jacques Chirac that he saw "Gog and Magog at work".In the 70s and 80s,Gog was meant to be Russia,Ronald Reagan seems to have believed that.
I believed what a broad range of sources spanning Church history say, that Gog is the Antichrist and he will come from Turkey or from just over the border in Syria.
Really Jc? I do, strongly!
The beloved crisis of "Armageddon" has come and gone...many, many years ago. The kings of the north marched with the Romans upon Jerusalem from 63-70 A.D. I am sorry, my friend, The "Anti-Christ" is already defeated and Armageddon has already passed.
I agree with you CJ
Not likely, my friend. These things have been going on for thousands of years and almost every generation thinks they are the last.
Yes, I agree. I think we are.
And what prophecy are we referring to?
The final countdown of the Western Civilization s decline has started.Islam is returning back so strong to rule and lead the world.It s Bush who awakened Islam from coma when he said let s make it a crusade.
Yes the New Testament speaks of a "coming" major war from the perspective of Christian Jews prior to A.D. 70 - not for us today. Context, context, context.
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was **dried up**, to prepare the way for the kings from the east. - Revelation 16:12
The Euphrates River will be dried up for the Battle of Armageddon.
To God, 2000 years is a "blink of an eye."
But, we are not talking about how God sees it...we are talking about how mankind sees it. When speaking to mankind, the Almighty never uses His heavenly time table...it is always our own. God speaks to us on our terms, so we understand His meaning.
What religions are these, and what are the prophcies?
The Quran contains many prophecies that have been fulfilled.Quran 30:2-4:.this verse revealed to Mohamed (a.s) in 617,which prophesies the future Roman victory within ten years over Persians.In 627,Heraclius defeated Persian Zoroastrians
The quran is a book written by a man whos only desires were power, wealth and very young girls. Leave your religion please out of Christian theology.
Firstly,my friend.You did a big mistaken when you said Quran is written by a man.That man is illiterate.which means plainly unable to read or write .You d leave CNN,FOX and oriental studies and read what great unbiased philosophers say about him.
if you say so.