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Good point, Planks. Tolerance is all about moral relativism and it cannot be achieved unless a society first abandons its righteous judgment and godly principles. Tolerance therefore, can only flourish in a world where all things are a shade of gray.
This is a very good answer, strangely enough my husband was just talking about this very same idea last night haha
See...Caly...brilliant minds do think alike!!! :0)
"who is to say who is right or wrong?" - Vicky
This belief is the catalyst for moral relativism...the silent killer of every failing society. When everyone is their own god, making their own judgments, and following their own code...anarchy reigns.
We need to give each other the space to grow, to be ourselves, to exercise our diversity. We need to give each other space so that we may both give and receive such beautiful things as ideas, openness, dignity, joy, healing, and inclusion.
Exactly. Get out of each others faces helps with tolerance also. No one likes having another opinion shoving their belief at you -regardless of what it is.
That sounds more like avoidance and less like tolerance, Jacqui.
Yes, I agree it does in a way. But giving each other space to think about what the other has said, or done - helps. Having it in your face the whole time just annoys you rather than encourages you to think about the diversity involved.
This may shock you, Jacqui, but I do not endorse "diversity" for its own sake. Truth is, not every opinion is equal any more than all behaviors and beliefs are equal. The only way they can be equal is if discernment is not used in determining value.
Nor do I - those things that harm others are less tolerable. However, your last statement is true - take away the determination of value - take off our religious or gay glasses and just look - the diversity in the world around us is actually amazing.
We are not playing tricks on your mind.It is true I agree with him on many issues but things for example like religious doctrine,we are pole s apart.After all,I respect him and I am not judgmental.
I agree with you James.
Thanks CJ Sledgehammer.I see that on many issues we share the same opinion.You must be my twin:) Happy New Year.
And funnily enough, I also agree with you James.
This is agreeing to something that will never work.The problem is that when you actually make your list in each category you will have others who won't agree and want to put into the other category.
I don t classify people to US and THEY .Diversity is the one true thing we all have in common. Celebrate it every day
Diversity and tolerance are two separate words with different meanings.
The second one i know it but what s the first one according to your dict?
As "They" say..."If you stand for nothing - you will fall for anything."
CJ - who died and made you King of All Correct Answers? Tolerance goes for you too - you are tolerated by many....some only just. Righteous judgement however is not yours to make. Tolerance is a show of character - that you can look beyond yourself.
jlpark, Cj is a great mind.I agree with what he said here.I don t see him like that.
I think along very similar lines as you on this issue CJ.
I see him for a great mind also - whether he is intolerant of certain things close to me or not. But do no appreciate the assumption that his God is the correct one for everyone. That is all
I am not surprised that I struck a nerve, Jacqui. The principles that I live by are sent from above. You live for this world, but I live for the life to come. We are polar opposites...you live to serve your own interests while I live to serve God's.
jlpark, His answer wasn t about the assumption of God.He was reasonable and more convincing
Haha - proved a point. In a subtle way you are all asking me to tolerate him. Which is what I do anyway - I was merely proving a point - tolerance is a good thing.
I know no one specifically asked for it but giving me reasons is a very subtle way!
Thank you, James and Cayln...you are too kind.
Jacqui: It's clear that you tolerate me out of necessity...not by choice. I don't hate you because you are a lesbian, but I do hate homosexuality and all that it stands for, because God hated it first.
CJ - nope, by choice not necessity. Necessity would mean you were family and I would have to tolerate you because of that. I do it by choice. When you aren't being rude you have interesting things to say.
You consider me to be "rude" because the things I stand for do not appeal to your delicate sensibilities. In addition, the things that I say regarding your "lifestyle" are perceived to be a threat. I never try to be rude...but sometimes truth hurts.
The things about me and my so called "lifestyle" are so old - it's not me I'm talking about - i don't find you threatening. I find it boring - it's been said and refuted time and time again - by religious folk as well. Its others you are rude to.
Naw...I just think you are being hyper-sensitive and so are the unmentionables. You have been rude to me and others have been downright nasty, but I never hear you rebuke them. No...the truth of the matter is the Word of God cuts like a knife.
CJ - granted, maybe I have. And I apologise. And I will continue to rebuke anyone who is rude. The relationship we all have with our God(s) are personal ones - mine is personal as is yours so your relationship does not translate to being mine or v.v.
Jacqui:The comment you quoted was done with great taste (and a little humor) considering the vitriolic, sexist rant that was directed toward men. I am also sure you have seen flaming vitriol and chronic disrespect rendered toward the One I serve.
The relationship that we have with God is a personal thing in the spiritual sense,but it ceases to be so when we have to deal with others.