Why do people continue to believe that satan is a fallen angel when the scriptures they use are taken out of context and do not refer to him? Isaiah 14 is about the king of babylon, see vs 4- EZE 28 is about the king of Tyre, see vse 11. also 2 peter 2vs 4 and jude 6 say all angels that left their habitation (home) are in chains til judgement day. The verse in rev has not happened yet? and there is no scripture about an angel rebelling.
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Had I read your whole question, I wouldn't haven't cited these ... already covered.
Diane, check the verses I mentioned. and tell me what you see then, thanks
Hi Cela, I referenced several of those passages. Luke 10:18 says 'I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." What do you think "satan" refers to?
Why in the world would people not consider these metaphors? I mean be reasonable in interpretation. Truth is beautiful. But literal translation is not truth seeking. These are concepts of the time written for people of the time. Think Internet!
specific verses I referenced show these verses are not talking about satan Isiaih is talking about the king of babylon and eze about the king of tyre -- ephes goes with col 1 vs 15-18 - 2 peter shows fallen angels in chains til judgement
Diane, as I understand it 'Anointed Cherub' is a term used to mock the king; Ephesus 6:12 can also be read as talking about the Roman Empire; and 2 Pet was not written by Peter and takes ideas from the discredited Book of Enoch.
Absolutely, It means they fall from grace as do we all. They leave home. Prodigal son and such. Israelites outside of their promised land. A Fall. Me when I reject or act wrongful.
Couldn't have said it better myself Larry!
ds - rev 12 has not yet occurred ,MT The devil and his angels , his demons are his angels. 2peter2vs 4 they are in chains until the judgement (i will concede the sinned as it varies and can be a valid term) psalm refers to demons, satans angels
In 1 Kings 22:19-23 and 2 Chron 18:17-22, God sends a lying spirit/evil to speak from the mouths of the false prophets in order to deceive the king. There are no evil angels. Revelation was argued over for 300 years before being accepted.
DH-- poor choice of words on my part. I did not mean demons were ever angels, i dont believe that, demons are to satan as angels are to God that is what i was trying to convey
I know what the T'anakh (Jewish Bible) says in Hebrew and it is speaking of angels and not men or anything else. Even the English bible is clear that the devil has his angels
Deborah, I am so surprised that you a Jewess would accept the myth that one a devil exists, and two he has angels. Please quote from the Hebrew Scriptures to support your position.
celafoe, said there was no scripture to support, the devil being an angel. I am simply interpreting scripture and it does not reflect nor dispute my beliefs. I have stated this in many of my hubs because I have been accused of believing Yahshua wa