It seems there are a lot of opinions about atheists and agnostics without a lot of facts. Some of the more common ones are lack of religion/God causes moral decline and atheists are waging war on Christians etc. Other common myths are atheists can't be as compassionate as religious people because we don't answer to a "higher power". - What most fail to realize is we answer to ourselves and most of us believe that this life is it - our chance to leave a mark on the world and we try to be better humans. Let's start trying to understand one another instead of demonizing people
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Absolutely, many atheists/agnostics I know including myself were raised in religion, examined it and came to a different conclusion. I also get sick of the whole "no moral code" issue as well.
I've heard this one so many times I can't count! I totally agree, Georgie!
Surveys have shown that atheists tend to know more about religions rather than less.
Borsia - I agree, and yet we the agnostics and atheists are the ones often called ignorant. Georgie - I agree also
Oh dear, Georgie, I heard this also. What are these people "thinking"? Atheists DON'T worship Satan at all! They just don't believe in a God no more no less. Atheists do have a moral and ethical code. What preposterous thinking indeed!
That is a little ignorant not @ you Georgie but for the ones who assume you worship Satan. If somebody does not believe in God, how can they believe in Satan?
LoisRyan13903, some people hear "atheist" and the Danger Will Robinson bells go off because they're trained to believe we're evil.
@Georgie atheist aren't evil maybe some are but you have evil people in all areas of belief or non Same as Muslims people tent to think that they are all terrorists not true some yes not all
Absolutely LR; atheism consists of 3 words "no gods exist" that includes Satan of course.
I just fell off my chair...what??? A Satanist?? this is so wrong, they just have been taught that anybody who doesn't worship their God is worshiping the Devil... a way to scare people, keep them in line and sometimes divide to reign
Yes yes yes! I totally embrace the unknown and find the quest for knowledge incredibly beautiful. Religion to me discourages free thought and is very fear based, but comforting. I understand the fear, but religion seems limiting to experience.
M.T. Dremer - great insight re: "embracing the unknown" - never thought of it in quite those terms! People who study science understand what they don't know and have a high degree of integrity and respect for the enormnity of life's mysteries.
Thank you I agree, many people assume atheists/agnostics are not spiritual and like you, I believe many of us in fact are. Thanks for answering :)
" I'm a Christian, I'm spiritual, but I'm not religious..." That's cool, I like that!
Many atheists are spiritual people, they obtain their spirituality from other sources. There are many religious people who are anything but spiritual!
I agree. I have a friend who is an actual Pagan witch and I respect her. She has a tough go of it too because she grew up and lived a lot of her life in an extremely religious area. Ridicule and humiliation were nearly constant. It was pitiful.
Wow, we have a lot in common. I grew up in the Catholic church/schools as well and have also studied different religions. I actually find the spiritual lessons of many quite beautiful, it's the literalism and dogma that turned me away.
Wow, what a cool journey you've had so far! I love your summary, "I try to be respectful of others' journey and understand their fervor. We're all on this road together and each of us yearns for and deserves understanding." Kudos and peace to you!
I turned 2 from the Catholic Church because of all the bullying I went through from other students and the nuns. I just found that there is a loving God. I just took a different direction
Totally, waters really get muddy when we try to paint large groups of people with the same brush. We are all complex beings
some people think they have an answer to everything. One "Christian" had the nerve to tell me he hopes I raise my children to have a choice smh. I suggested he do likewise and allow his to have free thought.
Chris - I'd love to have seen the look on his face!
JM - re immorality - I've found that the person questioning the morals of an atheist/agnostic are often severely lacking in the same
One woman was a few min. into her pushy speech confirming that she's truly a Christian, when I turned the tables to convert her to atheism."Yes, that feeling of belonging to a small, isolated, man's world...but then I let go of all those myths..."LOL
I have had two colleagues whom I consider THE most actively humanitarian people I have ever met; both are atheists. My friend, a former nun, questions religion in the same ways as I do.
JM, you are correct. I think many Christians think this way because that is what they hear from the preacher at their church. It's much simpler to dismiss atheists that way than to really understand where they are coming from.
This I can respect because you acknowledge that others are entitled to their beliefs as well. I embrace those who allow others to live and let live and I believe we all have the right to our beliefs :) thanks for your answer.
Bravo, both of you (Angela and Christin)! It seems minding one's own business isn't in fashion at the moment. You've said it much better than I could have!
I've noticed this too, that the more dogmatically religious a person is, the more they will insist that atheism is also a dogmatic religion/belief.
...and... Projecting false beliefs on others--or judging others as wrong--is a trait of most Christians I've met. They judge they're right because they're the majority in the US. So, explain the millions MORE globally who AREN'T Christian? All wrong?
Christianity actually makes up approx 33% of world's population not just US -all denominations. however, got this from wikipedia-so that amount might not be accurate
LoisRyn13903, you are correct: about 32-33% of the world's population is Christian. That means that the majority of people globally are non-Christian. Since Wikipedia is edited by people around the globe, it is probably fairly accurate. :-)
No matter what your belief is you are in a minority when it comes to the rest of the world.
However, of all the religions Christianity has the most people. Where the Muslims are about 23% Not really a minority About 15% of world's pop are non-believers (don't believe in any God)
The popularity of any religion or belief is irrelevant unless those believers can show that they have somehow fared better than those who believe in something else, or nothing. This hasn't been the case for any deity or group.
It is personal. And i can't and refuse to compare myself to others whether they believe or not.
I agree, people love to throw the word "ignorance" around in place of "stupid" which is what most mean - to devalue opinions of others that don't coincide with their own. Ignorance is simply lack of knowledge many don't realize that.
I see your point, but I also know that society is much more tolerant of Christians that it is Atheists. We've never had an atheist president for example, but people admire presidents that talk about religious beliefs.
I think if Jesus were around these days he'd be saying the same thing he was to the Jews 2000 years ago: 'y'all just be nice to one another, for goodness sake!' We all have the same brain capacity, though some are smarter than others: we CAN coexist.
Some people, probably Christians, may admire a president for making those remarks, and that is because our civilization was founded, generally speaking, on the Judeo-Christian concept, and many of those values and beliefs are, more-or-less, retained.
How very true. And when one points this out the answer is always that the evil doers didn't really have a god in their heart, even though they were devote believers. BS more evil has been done in the name of gods than any other motivation, ever!
I agree with this very much. I have a lot of respect for the many belief systems, so long as they don't try to infringe the rights or hurt others in the name of those beliefs. Excellent points
I agree, also! I think virtually all religions claim to respect life (how could they not?). Individuals who don't, those who would force their thoughts upon another, are by definition wrong by all measurement methods. Excellent points both of you.
I know there are militant atheists who ridicule the religious and that's reprehensible also to me. I am actually a spiritual atheist. I don't believe in a diety, but I do believe in something that connects us all energetically. :)
Mike, please don't assume that woman's remarks are typical of how an atheist would answer that question. The question actually implies "Would you do something against your strongest moral code for your own gain.The answer of which should always be no
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