I find that most christians are happy with the idea of attending church service and learning the doctrine of their church. But is seeking the Kingdom of God important to you and does your church explain or teach on the Kingdom of God? Most of the parables Jesus used in His teaching was about or related to the Kingdom of God and yet so few , if any, churches teach on the subject of God's Kingdom.
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celafoe- Spot on and thank you.
Wow!! Another quote and then telling you how to think. If I did not know better I would say this is like a paid priest.
Telling us what we must think in order to find the Kingdom of God. Sure sounds like a catholic priest to me.
No thanks. Love IS
Eric- There is nothing in celafoe answer that tells someone how to think. He quoted Matthew 6:33-34 This came from Jesus. Celafoe is explaining that we ,as the church, should seek the Kingdom. It's a responsibility, but it's also a choice.
grace-- its ok , he is a minister of religion where we are ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, so he does not understand the truths of scripture. Ignorance of truth is a terrible thing so I forgive him.
There is ONE way, Through Jesus Christ
celafore- I have had and will continue to have a greater relationship with God and our Lord Jesus Christ while in my own home than I ever had at time long ago in a Church. And that's a fact.
grace-- Me too , but i have been very involved in home churches for 25 yrs and they are a blessing if they are autonomous and Spirit led. Home meeting as part of a "church" are not really home churches and are a means of control of people.
I totally agree with this answer.
lburmaster- Thank you for your answer. I am glad you have a relationship with God. I only wish to say that God has been and always will be a King. God bless.
Relationship with Jesus Christ and seeking the kingdom of God is synonomous. If you don't seek the kingdom, then who is your God?
It is only your perspective if you seek the kingdom. You seem to think of what you will gain instead of who you are talking to. Kingdoms and wealth do not matter to me. But why do you think they are one? One comes with the other yes, but not the same
I agree, "one comes with the other, but not the same." I also believe in seeking the kingdom of God and storing up treasure in His kingdom is important too. My relationship with Him, His kingdom and His Church are all important to me.
lburmaster- Jesus tells us to seeks first the Kingdom. So it should matter to you and all oof us.
jcressler- I do hope that the Kingdom of God is foremost on the minds of those who attend your church. In many places that is not the case. And I hope they seek the Kingdom during their personal study of God's word. Thank you for your answer.
Ronald- I am not and never will be a member of a man made church. At the same time it is my hope those who do attend "churches" will take the the time through personal study to seek the Kingdom of God. Because most "churches" do not. Many blessings.
No, If you accept Jesus Christ, you become the Church. It is only in the modern "church" you become a member in a denomination.
PandN is correct, we are the church. There is no such thing as membership in Christ church. As the Church we become the body of Christ.
SerenityHalo- The sooner man realizes the church that christ built is not any form of man made institutions, but that it is strictly spiritual, the sooner the seed of the Kingdom can be planted in one's heart and bear fruit. Thank you.
wow-- you surely have had a megadose of the kool aid. What you say is not scriptural. You must be a bible school graduate. maybe be even a cemetary/seminary graduate. please scripture for paradise now?
“Repent for the kingdom of God is here with you now” (Matthew 4:17)
Jay Max Juster-The Kingdom of God is revealed to those who seek after it. For those who begin to understand it, they know the meaning of the pearl of great value, the treasure hidden in a field and the seed planted on good ground. It's God's Kingdom.
I am seeing this creepy crawly notion of borders and restrictions again. Does the Kingdom have rules? Is it not God's Kingdom not of laws but of God. And is someone starting to put rules on who God lets in or how to act to get there? I'll ask God.
Eric- Even Jesus received commandments from God. One of those commeandment was to spread the gospel of the Kingdom. He said He was sent for this reason to spread the gospel of the Kingdom. If it was a commandment given to Jesus then we should listen.
YES there are RULES for the Kingdom but only necessary for those who wish to partake of the Kingdom of God. Which is evidenced by obedience to HIM
careful eric, nice language-- your true self is showing again. how about just using scripture to refute what you dont like once in a while instead of losing your cool?
Eric - there is no need for this to spin out of control. Anger will not resolve anything. Your comments are welcomed but If you don't use some self control I will delete your answer (s).
BuffaloGao1960- If you are talking about the church within us then I agree with you. But I must be clear I do not believe in these man made churches that these people GO TO. Seeking the Kingdom is a vital part of our relationship with God. Thanks.
Eric- I realize that love was/is an important aspect in Jesus ministery. I don't know the age group of the children you teach and study with, but I do hope that the Kingdom of God is in their studies too. Many thanks Eric for your answer.
You need to give a definition their buddy. Your understanding may be different than mine.
Eric- the Sermon of the Mount, which I's sure you are aware, described in Matthew Chapters 3,4 and 5 provides a good view of the Kingdom of God. In this sermon Jesus provides good insight into the Kingdom. I hope this explains. Thanks Eric
I can rock with this. And this is what I say: "Welcome brother for it is at hand"
This place and space is here right now. I live it. I get that wonderful feeling in being good to others. Sometimes not so much, but I like that too. I am loved by God.
There is a distinction between those who belong to a "church," and those who are the Church. Many do not understand the difference.
Eric- I need to correct my earlier comment. I said the Sermon on the Mount was in Matthew 3,4 and 5. Well the correction is Matthew 5,6 and 7.
PandN- good to hear from you and I agree.
Between you and Celafoe -- you become the preachers demanding we only listen to you and not to ideas. NO That IS wrong. You just change preachers for yourselves. A coup.
I have been born to do what I do. For you to tell me I am condemned for it ?
xavierdhs07- I am glad to hear it and yes your right we should seek the Kingdom of God. Many Thanks
Aha! You have a community of Christians here on earth "within you" and that's what you understood by reading the scripture with care and discernment?
That's very perceptive.
Attikos - King Nebuchadnezzar said in Daniel 4:3 (NKJV) " How great are His signs. How mighty His wonders! His Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdm. And His dominion is from generation to generation." His Kingdom is in the spiritual and phyaical realm.
You're taking the word of a Babylonian tyrant for it?
I lean toward Attikos, trying to make boundaries and qualifications and when and where is this kingdom just is silly, in my opine. It is like a joke of the pearly gates.
John 18:36 - Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Attikos- Yes I would take the word of this tyrant. Even he ended up believing in God and God's Kingdom. Daniel Chapter 4 reveals far more about this tyrant's repentence then you seem to understand.
It's a moral story, graceinus. There is a good deal of history in it, but the Bible is not a history book. It never was meant to be taken literally. The moral of that one is that God can change the heart even of a tyrant. Neb's words were made up.
Attikos- Clearly I don't know or understand where you obtained your doctrine. But for me, I don't pick and choose what part of the bible to believe and what part not to believe. In my opinion, if God's word (bible) says it, then that settles it.
That is an illustration of why anti-Christians routinely accuse Christians of having closed minds. The fact is some of us do.
Attikos-Jesus Christ voiced his veiw too, and they killed Him because of it. So yeh, anti-christian is nothing new. Have a good day.
C.V. Rajan-In the ministery of Jesus Chrict, His main focus was on the Kingdom of God. It is my hope that many churches out there will place their focus on God's Kingdom too. But many don't and I hope that will change. Thanks for your answer.
the only church that matters to Gos is HIS church which is HIS people and nothing else
this is wrong. His main focus was on love. When people stay apart, how can they love? So churches are cool so people get together and love.
Grace you are preaching to no congregation. Get one you can look in the eye and then come back and spew
People get together in church alright, but loving each other!? Ah! Very debatable indeed!
no one said anything about not having fellowship with other BELIEVERS. Just staying away from churches of men- possessed by men, controlled by men and leading people to themselves instead of Freedom in Christ.
C.V.Rajan- Love is a commandment from God. WE as christians sometime don't do a very good job of it. In that sense Eric is correct . Loving each other is important, my point is God's Kingdom is just as important and churches tend to leave that out.
Loving is correct, but many do not understand the contexts of love. By saying we just love each other can imply many different things both good and bad.
Jesus Christ built one Church. Many do not understand what that means. How can you go to "church," if you are the Church? Many have no idea what it means to obey the pure Gospel; that is what the only one Church does.
Jesus didn't build the church. Paul did.
Attikos- you are wrong. Read Matthew 16:18. Jesus Christ said He would build His church. And if Jesus Christ said it (which He did), then that settles it.
A saying doesn't accomplish the act. Or, in this case, the Acts. Christ started Christianity. Paul is the one who built the institution, which is why his writings were included in the Bible by the bishops in the fourth century, when it was compiled.
Attikos- You can believe what ever you please. I draw the line when you imply the Jesus Christ is a lier. Your comments from this point on are no longer welcomed. I will delete any further comments on my question or Hub's from you.
Bizik Add- Thanks so much for your answer. And I agree in part on what you said. I believe that personal study would reveal much more of the Kingdom of God than anything that would be found in attending "church." Thanks again.
taburkett-Thanks for your answer. But I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you explain?
the end of all commandment is charity through a pure heart, a good conscience, and faith unfeigned: turned aside from vain jangling;
Desire to be teachers that provide affirmation of the Lord.
taburkett- thanks for explaining.
JThomp42- I just saw your answer. Many thanks and God bless
Thank you grace!! God bless!!
How come you guys don't just say "heaven". How could God's Kingdom have border? If it is alpha omega and omnipresent then it is here and now also.
Eric- It is used in both manner and with the same meaning. I prefer using Kingdom of God because it is His. For me it's just a matter of perference.
no Jesus is NOT the church. He is the head of the church but WE are the body. We (all Christians, collectively) are the church.
celafoe..... you are correct sir. My mistake.
jt- no problem, admitting a mistake cleans the slate
Deep Minds- Thanky you. I hope most people will note that the verse you just quoted in Matthew 6: 33 is part of the Sermon on the Mount which is about the Kingdom of God. Deep Minds thanks again.
Eric- Love in the greatest commandment in God's Kingdom. It applies to all areas within God's reach. God's love includes man, but God's love is not because of man.
christiananrkist- If you read what is refered to as the "Sermon on the Mount" which you'll find in Matthew Chapter 5,6,and 7, it is given by Jesus. This context or setting of this sermon is about the Kingdom of God. Churches don't teach this. Thanks.
Do you go to church on a regular basis? The church I go to just spent several weeks going through the entire book of Mark. and we have been through Matthew as well. If your are going to a church that has never taught the sermon on the mount, leave.
I'm not saying Churches don't teach the sermon on the Mount. I am say they don't teach that the ENTIRE subjuct of Sermon on the Mount is about God's Kingdom.
Seeking the kingdom og God is not about going to the social club on the street corner on Sunday, nor is it about your salaried pastor filling your head with a bunch of sophistry. Seeking the kingdom of God is not about someone else doing it for you.
Seeking the Kingdom of God is the individual's responsibility and it's a continued process. But those who never heard of it can once they hear of the gospel of God's Kingdom. From that point on one has to study and the Holy Spirit will reveal more.
we are told what a "church" service consists of in Corinthians, it is simply people coming together and sharing what the Holy Spirit gives each of them. Which edifies all . It is not someone preaching at the rest. It can be 2 or 2000
celafore- I agree with both you and Plank. I just like to mention that we can not seek the Kingdom of God if one has not heard of if. Either through study or hearing the gospel of it.
GRACE-- I question the possibility of being born again being unaware of the Kingdom of God you are entering.
That is crap grace. I teach and people come to my church to hear me preach. and I teach. I love and they come to hear my love. That is not sin. And I do not spout what you say or what a dogma says. We learn together. You sound like a hateful spouse.
Celafore-I'm talking about a person who does not know the word of God and never hear of the Kingdom.
eric-- I have not mentioned YOUR CHURCH. You have made it clear that it is "your church" so I know not to touch it. I only have a responsibility to the church of Jesus Christ. but i will pray that "your" people see truth and move to follow CHrist