With all the law suits and court findings, it is sometimes difficult to determine the appropriate time to personally pray on public property. So do you think it is ok to Thank the Lord for making the lights all green when traveling through a large city. Or maybe Thanking Jesus for keeping you safe when a drunk driver slams into a government building instead of your auto. Can you describe your permissible times?
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Amen, sister! Satan can kill the body, but he can't kill the soul, after all. No one has the right - and can't do it anyway - to try to force someone to stop thinking or praying in their mind.
It appears that you have removed the rights of the individual when they are a Council Member, School Official, City Administrator, or other elected official. So, it appears your position is that individuals can be restricted? Is it a double standard?
No, their rights as an individual are still intact. As a member of that body you can still pray. It is organized prayer at these meetings that is a violation of the first amendment. The government cannot endorse religion.
taburkett, the rights of an individual, when acting in a public capacity and on behalf of a government entity do change when they are wearing that hat.
We don't have rights, we have temporary privileges. We don't have rights when they can be taken away. Do a search for Japanese Americans 1942.
Nicholas, simple because someone's right were infringed upon, does not mean they don't have rights...we just need to fight for them and against the tyranny of a government that doesn't protect them.
Yes, all that is true. But in public, you may provide your Thanksgiving for that which the Lord provided you.
you are so correct. however, some people wish to limit those places where you can pray. to achieve this, the objectors continually seek government restrictions against others. this discrimination must stop. .
Like so many atheist and homosexuals do. Disgusting isn't it?
atheists and homosexuals are the ones discriminated against more in our society JThomp and we are all entitled to our opinions, beliefs and human rights - not just the ones you deem "moral" enough for your liking.
I'm entitled to my opinion, and I find it disgusting how you whine. :)
I'm whining by stating my opinion but you are "entitled" to yours - that says a whole lot doesn't it?
Yes it certainly does about atheist. Are you crusading for atheist and homosexuals? I am for my God. I will defend him against your kind anytime I can.
When individuals seek to proclaim immoral actions as moral, moral individuals must protest. The moral world is looming on the edge of destruction due to silence of the moral individual. Restoring moral society requires positive action not reaction.
You missed the context of that passage RE the Pharisees praying loudly on the street corners. The point had nothing to do with their praying publicly, but about their hypocrisy. Praying in public, in & of itself, doesn't equal hypocrisy.
What and you don't think that 50% of Church public prayer isn't about ego, preaching, and making the praying person feel good about themselves?
DH...... THE REAL TRUTH TO BE KNOWN IS THAT PEOPLE DO NOT PRAY ENOUGH.
cherihut-Jesus provided the rule in Matthew 6 - we are to pray in private, not in public. Therefore, public prayer should be viewed as thanksgiving to the Lord. TimTebow 4 example. Those who do not believe in God want to remove all thanksgiving.
JT how do you know whether or not people are 'praying enough'? What are you expecting to change?
Look at the shape this country is in DH. If Christians would pray and take a stand, God may start blessing this nation again.
Really JT. When God said if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray...., who was he talking about? Israel. This is not something Christians can name and claim.
since you are not sure of the point, then you cannot understand that there should be no "within limits".Free speech is free speech - regardless of public property or not.No one is demanding that anyone pray - but they demand prayer restriction.
Yes, Thanksgiving is great practice. More Americans should participate in Thanksgiving. However, many are extremely jealous of those that can be thankful for the life and opportunity they have.
And that is the right provided you by the Creator.
Jesus taught that we should forgive the sins of others.
James 5:2 "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."
Who shall provide a moral path?
Forgive - yes, pray over without permission - no.
jlpark ... permission from who? You act as if someone is going to single you out in public and start praying for you. This is not the way it works. If you are being prayed for, you will never even know.
JThomp - then that is fine. Did you read the answer at all? I'm quite happy for someone to pray quietly, for me or anyone. But not loudly, publicly for me or anyone, unless they have specifically asked to be prayed for.Will I stop a quiet prayer? No
and no one is stopping you so why the attack on other posts about other groups of people? Victimization when you are in the majority is rather silly.
JThomp42-what you call prayer is in fact a Thanksgiving for the benefits provided by the Lord. Public prayer by the individual is outlined in Matthew Chapter 6.
Majority?? Laughable! The white, religious man in this country is now the minority due to all of your "silly" political correctness. Why do you care. Are you an atheist and a homosexual?