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Excellent answer, Susette. A deep but practical concern for the planet and everything that lives in/on it, not just us humans, is in effect giving respect and honour to any "god" one likes to worship. Pope obsolete!
Agree completely. The "Catholic Faith" doesn´t mean anything. Personal actions are what count no matter the religion or belief.
I like your comment let this be made in to a Hub so that more people can read.
I never felt spiritual growth while practicing Catholicism and left the church by the time I was 20 . But I have to admire his "ordinary" lifestyle. You can't reach out if you're sitting on a throne.
So true Billie. When Christianity was first formed it was always about inclusion just as the Gospels state, but Religion has misinterpreted much of it and used it for control. My hope is he can start bringing it back to it's roots.
Yes suzettenaples I agree. He's proving he means business, but people are moving past the belief you have to go to confession or else! He will only be able to do so much, but if the church is to survive there has to be many changes ahead.
I doubt this. Although I agree John Paul was killed by a conspirational group with their own interests, in the present there is no real threat he represents to capitalism or other ruling orders.
He has no fear and as a true man of God he shouldn't. If you "play ball" then you're no better then politicians. It takes great courage to fight an up hill battle. I'm sure he knows the risks.
By your standards, Jesus Christ was a failure as well.
Why? Jesus did focus on changing the world around him.
When? You could at most say he focused on changing people's attitude towards the world around them but he did that by promising salvation from death, not by saying "Let's build a better world!". The Bible says this world is doomed already.
Is the world doomed already? Everything comes and goes and this world will find an end but there will be other beginings. Death is simply another begining, not the end. Jesus work was to point people into the right direction but he did use his own...
It's true, it's very early to see if he can accomplish real change, but he seems ready to task it. He even updated Vatican laws, criminalizing sexual abuse so we'll have to see if he truly enforces it. I have hope he will
What Andre??? Maybe you misunderstood what David was saying. I hear him being cautious about Pope Francis, hoping his actions are true, but not automatically believing it. Kind of a wait and see. What he's described as wanting is what Jesus did.
Jesus didn't "use economic, political, and popular power to change the wrongs of this world". In fact, he didn't work and he didn't do charity at all. When he helped people, it was always in a miraculous way, not a wordly one. All he did was "teach".
You use the tools that you have. Pope Francis has a lot more tools and connections that Jesus did, but Jesus still created his own team and followers. He had spiritual training and he used it. He influenced his followers to share food and money, etc.
He seems to be a hope for a kinder, more accepting faith, although it still has too much conflicting ideology which is the core of Catholicism.
Borsia, totally agree. I can't go back, but I DO like the focus of this pope. I think it will spill over to Evangelical Christians - all religions, and to us who are agnostic or atheist as well. It's the social justice focus that I find hopeful.
I think too it won't bring back people like me who found it more restrictive then expanding. He will be good however if he can walk as Jesus did where no one was ever better then anyone else.
That would be a wonderful thing and extraordinary!
Thanks erorantes. I too used to believe everything was Gods plan too, however now I feel we control our fate. Otherwise freewill would mean nothing. I applaud the Pope's fearless path for compassion to EVERYONE without exclusion, it is rare indeed.
Thanks Frank, like suzettenaples said too, the church has not kept up with the evolution of people's expanded beliefs. Spirituality is growth, Religion unfortunately has been more about power and control.
Jesus gospels were always about inclusion. I'm not sure what you mean by "actual gospel" because that too was what Jesus wanted....a better place to live and Jesus as well as the Pope show it by living among the people, not above them.
I know that was the last straw for many, for me it came much earlier for many reasons, but as I commented to David, he is the first Pope to update Vatican law to criminalize sexual abuse, so he's working for real change it seems. Time will tell.