I was and still angry that the "Alpha & Omega" that knows the number of hairs on my head from the 'dawn' of time before I was ever born has/had this Grand Design to have the entire scope of humanity throughout the ages fail from the start. Then I read about this and I'm wondering. Talked about the wiki, Logical_order_of_God's_decrees Talking about Supralapsarianism / antelapsarianism Inquiring minds want to know. So let me know you opinion on this. Thanks
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Bunk! You speak from ignorance and blindness.
You do touch on some spot of truth when you mention the selfishness of some (most?) Christians. The problem isn't religion, but Ego, and everyone was burdened with that in the Garden
I too believe that these are lessons and not literal. There were 2 'eves' the first was Lilith who asserted she's an equal. After she left, God gave a 'more compliant' "does what she's is told 2nd Eve" And she did what she was told. Inequality = fail
To clarify, don't agree with the wiki chart.
Good job ignoring the subject at hand and moving on to your testimonial. Nice effort. Unfortunately, christianity does not allow free will (assuming you have an interest in what we call "heaven"). Sorry to disappoint.
Justin Earick, didn't ignore the subject, I clearly said I don't agree with the Wiki Chart. Agenda suspicions like yours are the musings of conspiracy theorists.
I believe in Free Will - I must. - http://hub.me/a63En
I didn't bother with Supralapsarianism because its mumbo jumbo. So she is asking - why be good if my fate is decided before conception? Seeing people twist themselves in knots to satisfy their imaginary friends is quite amazing to me.
I was answering the first and more important part of the ?. Why would god create a world where horrible things happen to his people?
The answer is that he didn't. We created him to control other people with the fear of what happens when we die.
Seem you have an agenda after all, which is to postulate your own opinion. No prob, anyone who answers this has the similar intention of saying what they think. Even the question poses its own opinion within the question. I ramble.
I agree buddy the decision for each path is based within us, we know what we should be doing for ourselves & others, & we all know the difference between right & wrong..It's a question of will power, & we won't ever get that until we
Good trees bear good fruit, bad fruit only from bad trees.
How about consensual homosexual relationships? No good can come from a homosexual pretending to be content in a hetero-normative relationship which cannot be satisfactory by very definition.
Exactly so if that person feels in their heart it's what they want, then they are right..The homosexual would be lying to himself, if he was with a woman so he should use his free will to choose..He shouldn't be bothered what "other" people think.
Dave36 - you hit the nail on the head. The individual must choose their path. If that path is truth then positive good is the reward. But when that path is lies, then negative is the result. Pretending bad is good is in reality a lie.
Your right tbHistorian about positivity, & if a person puts nothing but positivity out there..They'l start getting it back, but from different sources than the "causes" would suggest they should..Only, if their doing it for the right reasons thou
f there can be objective morality without a God (and there can), then there can be an objective morality with a God. It just wouldn't be subject to God's will. God would be subject to it.e
I should say that when i say book, i'm not referring to the bible....What i mean't was i could read something, but that's not realising something..Seeing/doing/investigating something iv'e read would lead to realising something, but not just reading.