What if there is no God. What if he was the invention of humanity trying to control humanity. What if God is to people what Santa Claus is to kids - somebody not to piss off because you just wanna get your loot (or place in "Heaven") in the end.
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God calls every one to repentance as Paul says in Acts 17 verse 30 because He will judge the world in Righteousness by the man He has appointed. Of which He has given assurance He has provided proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.
I advise you to read Stephen Hawkings free online essay "Godel and the End of Physics" which outlines the impossibility of science getting all the answers.
But what scientific *proof* exists that some man named Jesus Christ rose from the dead some 2014 years ago? Was His grave under 24 hour watch? Did some image of Him reappear on that 3rd day and preach to a jaw-dropped assemblage of sane witnesses?
Science can deny the word God, but they cannot deny the power in nature. They are a part of it. Can they deny themselves? There is a power creating us and everything that is unseen. So what do they want to call it today? LOL
There is a lot of written anecdotal evidence and also historical evidence that a remarkable event occurred in the Ancient Roman Empire; that same event eventually conquering the Empire. Words limits here stop further info I could offer
Science will never have all the answers in much the same way we will never find a perfectly preserved dinosaur. But that doesn't mean we can't paint a mostly accurate picture of dinosaurs based on the evidence. The same is true of the universe.
The Bible is a mixture of symbols, parables, history, poetry and even humor etc! If we take a symbol literally we miss the meaning.
Oztinato, you make an excellent point. Unfortunately most "believers" see the bible as being completely literal. From their point of view it's (the) "historical document" of the beginning and future ending of mankind.
They do this like children might. It only becomes harmful when it leads to bigotry.
D, you might be pleasantly surprised to know that the scribes got a lot right. There's a biblical timeline compatible with those of science.
Rod Martin, Jr.
"The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood"
I totally agree with you.
If God was real, wouldn't he dislike such a choice? Wouldn't he want true believers rather than people who chose to believe because it was more attractive than not believing?
That is not the reason I believe, but for many it is a good starting point. When people can logically look at the pros and cons, and get away from our pre-conceived prejudices. It is just a chance to look at a bigger picture of life and after life.
Even as a starting point, I feel like the modern portrayal of god would dislike someone who chose theism on the off chance it was right. It is my understanding that religious gospel is supposed to be a model to live by, not insurance for the soul.
If God did not exist there would be no life. We would not exist because this material world and universe would not be as matter cannot create or produce itself. Like as Paul said if there is not resurrection, we are of all men to be most pitied
MT, believing in God is shallow. Knowing even a piece of God is profound. Knowing is transcendent, like walking on water or moving mountains in an instant. I have seen miracles this powerful. But depending on miracles to believe is upside down
And, of course, God exists. God is love. Because of it, Noah's Flood was an act of love. Only someone of the spirit can understand this. Blessings.
It would be inaccurate to say his theory is math proof for god. It's complicated philosophical analysis, far distant from what the bible would have us believe.
The definition of God according to Godel (ie Perfect) has the same repercussions as a believer without higher math might perceive. Other physics dimensions now can be seen as potential "other realms" etc.
But it's still a philosophical 'what if', not concrete evidence that can be tested, measured and recorded. If such an equation were enough, anything could be proven to exist.
String theory is a "what if" theory but everyone takes that very seriously.
String theory is an attempt to explain a part of the visible universe. Godel's theory is an attempt to justify a dated superstition.
If you were a maths great equivalent to Hawking or Einstein you have a right to can Godel: both these maths greats pay him the highest respect.
I'm not disrespecting Godel, I'm saying that if the bible was never written, his theory wouldn't exist. Where as string theory would because it is derived from the observable universe.
That can't be true as there are many other religions to draw from. Many prominent scientists studied the Ancient Hindu scriptures too.
Pure wisdom. Like a blind man saying there is no color.