"Atheists" are always claiming that Creationism or Creationists prohibit scientific progress, yet fail to give any concrete examples or reasons. Your thoughts?
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I don't fully understand this comment. If you are looking for answer google AIG for how science fits into the Bible. The Website and their magazine is great!
Actually, if you believe the world was created by God, you have a HUGE incentive to advance science (such as medicine) in order to help people.
If we all came from chemical accidents, why bother advancing anything? Just eat, drink and be merry!
Why advance medicine if those who die go to eternal happiness in heaven? There would be no reason postpone death. In an atheistic universe, survival is our incentive. We've only got this one life, so lets make it a good (and long) one.
God & mother nature created the world together, & this is the trial run or our one chance to learn, & hopefully grow into something worth giving eternal life to. :-)
Actually, by studying science you are looking into the design of a Deity. What a motivation!
If we are all just a bunch of chemical accidents that gives us very little incentive to advance anything. Just eat drink and be merry!
And even if that is the case, why is that a bad thing Asa? You live your life, be happy, and die. Simple.
But you are discrediting the Biblical account by rejecting Creationism.
Just because one Creationist made a fool of himself does not mean the Creator is stupid.
Fit... Care to provide a source that explains these heartless, mass killings you speak of that were apparently done in the name of atheism?
"Creationism" isn't the only method of giving glory to God. And it's a scientifically poor way to do it. Glory based on a lie is not the best way to do it. And you can't find Truth unless you have the humility of a good scientist. Short supply
Link-Hitler and Robespierre were atheists. Tens of millions slaughtered between them. Lonestar-all I see is more broad, unproved accusations by an atheist. But Hitler said if you tell a lie over and over people will eventually accept it...
I disagree with most of what lone says, but he is the farthest thing from an atheist.
As for Hitler and Rob where did they ever say they killed in the name of atheism? Hitler drank water and so do you, does that mean you are just as evil as he was?
"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."
-Adolf Hitler, 27 October 1928
James R Cullin, Hitler was about as Christian as Satan. Do you think the devil deceives people by telling the truth. You don't believe the truth God says of Himself, yet you believe Hitler?
Fit, Hitler was baptized. His numerous Bible related speaches aside, he was a Christian on paper. A lot easier to believe Hitler, since he was an actual person and all
To gain public credit, Hitler proclaimed all the time he was Christian, but in his private diaries, he reviled Christians and Christianity. Moreover, his actions prove what he really believed. Read the book "Bonhoeffer".
And what did he really believe in, Asa? Because atheism is not something you believe in and are capable of killing in the name of.
His idea of a Master Race was rooted in atheism. If you believe we are all created in the image of God, we are all equal. But if we are all a bunch of chemical accidents then the idea of weeding out the "weaker kind" makes perfect sense.
Atheism is not a cause, so again that makes no sense. And if we are all created in gods image and are equal...why are gay people still not able to marry in most states?
Asa - show me where Atheists state they want a Master Race? The only people aside from Hitler who have anything like that are the KKK - and errr...they're Christian. But I wouldn't judge all Christians on them...why do it if Hitler may hv bn an athe
Atheism is a belief (or non-belief). The Master Race was a cause that sprang from that belief (or the results of the non-belief). Killing out the weaker species makes sense. We see it in nature.
Even if we were to agree that the Master Race arose from atheism (which is asinine) there are millions of atheists who find the notion abhorrent. If you choose to cling to the one over the vast many, that is your own willful idiocy.
The hypocrisy is so astounding I am at a loss for words.
Atheists may not agree with Hitler, but that wasn't the point. Ideas like the Master Race sprang from atheism. Morality just becomes what everyone agrees on under atheism. So if millions of Nazis agree killing Jews is good, then it is moral.
And sex trafficking, discrimination of homosexuals, and slavery abuse sprang from the bible...
Is there a reason you seem to be trying to crucify atheism while ignoring the very obvious negatives of christianity/other religions, Asa?
Maybe in an alternate universe. In this universe, those millions of Nazis you mention weren't atheists. Germany was predominantly Christian in 1939 (95%), as was most of the Nazi Party. The Romanian Iron Guard was heavily religious, etc.
The point is that you CAN and people HAVE killed in the name of atheism, which you said was impossible. As the leaders of the French Revolution said to justify their kiling of clergymen "We are throwing off the shackles of religion to embrace Reason"
No one said it was impossible. It just isn't anywhere near the norm as you are trying to make it out to be. Not even close. Since you seem completely unwilling to be honest about it, there isn't much else to say.
Link said you are not capable of killing in the name of atheism. Try reading the previous comments before YOU comment. I guess staying on point is not "being honest".
No, Link said you can't believe in atheism, hence can truly do nothing in its name. You only said that people kill in the name of atheism, which might be true, it doesn't mean they actually are. No one said what YOU said was impossible. Get it?
Even if people have killed "in the name of atheism" (is there anyway for you to prove this?), to say I killed such and such for atheism still makes no sense. There is no cause to kill for, you cannot claim it was for a cause that doesnt exist.
Of course they don't exclaim "I'll kill you in the name of atheism!" But their justification for killing is rooted in their belief system of atheism. The entire deChristianization campaign of the Frnch Revluton was justified by "reason over religion"
Again, feel free to prove your second sentence at any time with sources. You can have reason and be religious at the same time. Following religion and being blind to most logic is what is dangerous and probably what prompted reason over religion.
Read chapter 7 in the book "Demonic" for the French Revolution, and read "Bonhoeffer" regarding Hitler and the Master Race movement.