What is the step by step process? List them please.
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Sounds good to me.
I really thought this was a trick question. We only reach heaven by God's grace. Not by earning it. The only process is God's grace.
Eric No, it was not a trick question. What and who has God's Grace?
Whoever and however God chooses. It is not up to man to get into heaven. It is solely by God's grace. End of story, you cannot earn or deserve grace it is freely given.
Eric, THANK YOU! I was told that I was wrong becasue they thought that I was teaching people that they did not have to do anything to get into heaven. So I was NOT wrong at all.
Absolutely you are correct. God decides and I heard it on good authority --- He may even let me in! Some folk do believe that we can actually decide here on earth. Wouldn't it be sweet.
The only thing I would change is the word, successful. I think it only matters that one tries to be a good person.Some people are not able to be a 'success' at it.Perhaps these people are recycled, but I don't think they r thrown in hell for failing.
Couldn't have said this better myself. I'M DONE!
Brilliant! Now, if only we had a good definition of Love to cut through the confusion most people have. We can start with the fact that Love contains no self-concern. Love always looks to the needs of others
lone you must love yurself first as in have no other gods before you before you can fully love another. Oz, thank you for answering so simply.
Pure ⬅ That's the key word, Pure Love
We are here to learn about love. It permeates everything. Love of football is a lesser but real love. Perfect self sacrifice is perhaps the highest form.
Some people seem to be making up their religion, and have put a lot of imagination into it, and narcissism We are to love God above all, not ourselves, albeit we must love ourselves too,
Can't help it. Just being born seems to come with original sin or something.
That is correct Austin. As soon as we come out the doctor's make us cry, instead of making us smile.
Examiner - LOL! I guess crying and whining just comes naturally to us then.
Crying is like complaining and we started off on the wrong foot. The doctors do it the wrong way. We want go into Heaven smiling. :-)
Examiner, We need to cry or yell to take in the first breath to expand our lungs. It's not to cry for the sake of crying as in a hurt. Some go to heaven readily. My fil was ready and wating. He even asked what they were going to do with his body.
That was a wonderful comment on love!
I also have a few hubs on these things. Thanks for your answer.
So children who have cancer and all those indigenous tribes all over the world do not go to heaven? Really think about what you are saying, not what has been tught in a church.
I don't attend Church.....
So where di you learn these things?
Cause the Bible told me so... My family enrolled in "Christ School."
May I suggest a documentary named "Unstoppable", great Info. Thank you for the question Lady. Be blessed
May I suggest that you read Mathew 5 43-48.
How many souls do you think are already in Heaven and how many are in Hell.
My answer is zero to both.
That's funny right there! I thought you were Hindu. I wonder if this is a serious answer.
Actually, being a Hindu, I am right now in hell and writing it from there!
C.V.Rajan - LOL!!!
You really beleive this hype?
It looks my status is confirmed! If in doubt, read Team Wiseman's reply!
Lady G you believe your eruption of Mt. Vesuvius hype! :)
Austinstar, I could say a lot to U, but I'll be nice, this time
Deb you will be nice all the time or I will delete your comments as well.
Deborah, we have been around with this immaturity befoe here on HP and in e-mail. Report if you think that will add to your cause. It is my question and your comment is uncalled for...period.
Truth is always uncalled for to the immature nonbeliever
Mr. Rajan was presenting a satirical premise of what steps religionists believe will get people into Heaven.
Yes, when we finally get there we are ready.
Not everyone. There are those who get there and say, " Why me, I was not ready.", or, "I was about to win the poker hand."
What a beautifully profound statement.
'Examiner' is profound, Lady G. I agree. As to you, you're already 'here'. Simply re-discover this. To do that the twins of self-effort and Grace are necessary. Again, there is no 'we'. Just you. All in my original answer
"Nothing about our lives would make one person more special than any other person" - Ah! a wonderful revelation for me! So, myself, a terrorist, a serial killer, a rapist, a thief ... all will be occupying the same place in heaven! Ah! So comforting!
C.V.- Well, you already live here on this planet with all the thieves, killers and rapists. Do You really feel like you are better than they are? That you have a "soul" and they don't? Isn't heaven supposed to be "all forgiving"?
Thank You Austinstar. There is a place and time for everything on this planet and no one is better than another so say that Bible book of books and letters. Most people only pick and choose what they want out of it, mostly the bad.
A very power packed reply indeed. You have touched the very core of any religious teaching (and Hinduism's advaita philosophy) and I bow to you for that. But for the sake of practicality, heaven is the bait offered only for the good; no?
I do not know why this keeps getting hidden. Says that there is a negative comment and there is not that I know of.
Very good answer.
Thank you for this. Yeah a lot of Christian do not read their Bibles to get the GOOD NEWS from it. They would rather tear anyone apart who does find the good in it.
I would like to add this robber did confess to Jesus his sin and was sorrowful and Jesus in all his mercy forgave him. The robber was washed clean by Jesus that day and therefore he entered the Kingdom of Heaven.
But they both got into heaven and neither really believed in Jesus. Eric Dierker (above) said tht we only get into heaven by the grace of God and he choses no matter what we do.
Just the one thief confessed his sin to Jesus . Jesus answered him thou (meaning one) shalt be with Me in paradise. The other thief did not ask for forgiveness he blasphemed Jesus. Jesus gives us that choice.
Where did it say that specifically? O was it just assumed?
Luke 23: 39-43
It doesn't say anything about the other person only that he rebuked him. Saying that he did not go to heaven either is an assumption then.
Jesus did not say you both will be with me in Paradise he said to the one "you will be with me in Paradise." It is assuming when it is said they both will be in Heaven.
I just read the scripture you gave from verse 36-50 and the more that I read it there is still nothing that said Jesus did not take him to "paradise"...which isn't even heaven. Jesus said the kingdom is within us...not outside of us.
John 3:16 he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Read verses 19 and 20 also.
Sirdent, Jesus said that the kingdom of god is wiithin us. Eric Dierker said that we were chosen by god who goes to heaven and who does not. We cannot do anything to make a difference.
Thank you for your steps that you think that we need to take to get into heaven. What is you can't read or there are no bibles where you are? Do you still get into heaven?
So that's all there is to it flipalermo A man isn't righteous because he reads John 3:16 and believes God...Satan believes God
And you guys seem to think that non-Christians can't go to a heaven. Why is that?
I'm not Christian and I certainly don't think Christians are going to heaven. Why is anyone who loves God, labeled a Christian? I converted to Orthodox Hasidic Judaism when 18 yrs old
Deb S - I did not know that. I shall try to keep it in mind for the future. Happy Hanukah.
Well, that is jus Awesome! Harry By Georg, I think you've got it.
I did like this very much. Christians seem to be way too serious and most that I have met have no sense of humor and I do not think that they think Jesus did either. 2 bad I already picked the best answer.
Are these the same rules for those who do not know of Christianity at all? Are they the same for dying children?
I answered your question Lady. You said nothing about dying children. What does that have to do with this topic?
It has everything to do with this topic. Do not children have to do things to get into heaven too?
No. It is my belief that all children who pass away go to Heaven. A child cannot be held responsible for something they cannot comprehend. A child is God's until the age of accountability.
Then that is YOUR belief and if others do not follow that it make no matter. I can ask what I want in my question. I did not say that anyone had to be an adult, or a child. Snippity aren't we.
That is a gross personal attack. You should be permanently banned.
Oz, I did delete the comment. HP dsnt make sense. The hate this activity but all ow it at the same time. He can make a hub bt refuses to do so. He dosnt love one another period.
@ Lady If you are referring to me I am an old black woman old enough to be your mother. Shame on you.
JF, I don't car if you are pink with purple polka dots, this is MY question and if you don't like it then stop commenting on it.
Jesus told us that we were perftct just like his father, He also told us that the Kingdom of God is Within us and all the laws are in our minds and hearts....
What book you readin'?!
The Bible of course. Don't you read it for yourself to get your own answers?
Jesus certainly didn't say we were perfect; He told us to be perfect like His Father. He knows very well we aren't, under our own power. We do too, or we wouldn't say things like "pobody's nerfect"
No LG, he did not say we are perfect, he told his disciples TO BE perfect And the laws are not in our minds that will be when the Jewish Messiah comes Jeremia 31
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Deb, just like so many others who take the verse out of context and then say that it was meant for so and so. Read from verse 43 on as I have.
Mathew 5 43-48 sums it all up pretty good as to how we get inbto heaven and stay in God's graces. Well Jesus died on the cross to take all our sins away--forever. Rude comments arent allowed here and I delete them. Thanks for answering.
Are you implying that I do not read the Bible at all? You are talking about these verses are you not?: Luke 17: 20-28 and Mathew 5: 43-48 Perhaps you should read the other comments that I commented on here.
If you know the bible so well, why ask what the requirements for getting into heaven are in the first place?
Because someone told me that I was doing somethig wrong and so I asked.
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