Many modern churches have psychological counsellors, Psychologist or Psychiatrists on staff , call or referral. Does scrpture cindone this practice?
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Will you please post the scripture you have stated here. I would like to read the book, chapter and verse you describe. ...(As a minister (are we not counselors as well?and a psych major (masters degree - Thanks Respectfully Eddy Von
check my hub -- https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Truth... NO minister led by the Holy Spirit would use psychology, but those that serve the churches of men , instead of Christ do, churchian hirelings, not CHrist led.
I've searched NASB, NKJV, NIV for "we are ALL to be counselors" and can't find it. The part about being professionally trained by man I know isn't there, but not sure about all are counselors. A little help please?
By insolence comes nothing but strife, but with those who take advice is wisdom.
Without counsel plans fail, but with many advisers they succeed.
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all t
eddy- the scripture ( jn 16:3 from the NT ) you use shows that the only wise council is from the Holy Spirit, The OT scriptures were from before the Holy Spirit was sent to lead us into all truth. in OT men were
between man and God, not in NT
Proverbs 20:5 -Proverbs 12:18 - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 -Galatians 6:2 -2 Corinthians 1:2-3- 2 Corinthians 9-17 - Proverbs 27:9 - 2 Samuel 20:18 -Colossians 1:28 -2 Timothy 2:15 -Amos 3:7 -Proverbs 12:15 -Matthew 23:34- Jeremiah 1:5 -Job 33:23 -Psalm 79:11
rich- it is not in scripture, another lie of the churches of men, NT we are to seek the holy Spirit for answers, not men
I realize the mistake I made asking for scripture. People that minister to the flesh have a mill stone with their name on it waiting.
Eric, I must agree - insulting is an understatement by this author. I posted many scriptures to the author- who has the option to post. this is not done, but rather the comments I received were considered "non - relevant". I will post in next comment
eddie-- you did what all hireling pastors do, gave me a bunch of scriptures , none of them supporting your position. If you are going to call me names then at least be man enough to be truthful. I am not responsible for your lack of understand.
Celafoe, I have told the truth- the comments I made were copied and pasted from your writings to me. Post the entire conversation, so as the Truth will be seen. I am done with this conversation, and by the way - I am a woman...May God bless you
Great answer. Yes Jesus said we are to crucify our flesh (psyche), not understand it
Collasians 4:14 is very troubling then as psychiatrists are physicians of the flesh (psyche)
Thank you Eric for bringing that to my attention. The psyche has to do with the mind of a man. They call Psychiatrists doctors, but a physician is a doctor of fleshly diseases. They treat the body, not the mind.
Eric -only to those who do not know how to interpret scripture. Flesh is talking about the natural carnal man, the essence of the man, not the meat on the body. Crucify the natual man feed the spiritual one
Luke was certainly a physician and a dearly loved one at that. Truly he was a member of the church.
Eric - yes he was a brother, and loved. That is the measure not his occupation. WHAT CHURCH? BY BEING A BROTHER HE BECOMES THE CHURCH (Part of Christ's body) do you think they had a building like the modern apostates that they call the church?
Off topic already? No one is denying that Luke was a physician or a brother in Christ. The question was about psychiatrists being used in the Church to counsel. Psychiatrists are taught according to the ways of the world, not God.
Celafoe -- Psychiatrists are physicians and have worked for years with the church. Luke was the physician to Paul as he makes clear "our beloved". Guidance counselors are different as are psychologists. Ministering to the sick is a worthy calling.
Eric -are you aware that psychology was not everecognized until mid 20th century. I know, after several years of debating you that you have a mixture you believe, but it is just not scriptural and i am concerned for the young that you say you teach
That is just a slam against me. It is insulting.
Sorry eric it is not intended as a slam but as a wake up call. 2John 10-11,
Look at some of the thing you have said, eastern religion material, etc. Christianity demands a correct use of the gospel ONLY.... I care but the word is #1 not feelingss
celfoe is your interpretation of the Bible infallible?
Eric infallible NO Correct on what parts I teach YES
I am always open to correction by scripture properly used IN CONTEXT but never by any other means
1I have told you before We live in THE NEW TESTAMENT NOT THE OLD.2. Most of your scriptures have NO place in this discussion as they are not relevant at all. 3.You cannot use the OT to outline the new things so I will not address them again. Insults