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How can you be an atheist if you can't disprove the existence of God?


What validity is there to the double negative argument for the existence of God? Is it really rational to justify belief in something by the mere fact that it cannot be disproved? You also can not disprove the existence of leprechauns and unicorns, but most would agree that is not a good reason to believe that they do exist. I consider myself an atheist because there is no positive proof for the existence of any spiritual deity. Some consider themselves agnostic because they concede that God's non-existence can't be disproved. Do you stand for positive proof or double negative speculation?

 

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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    Studies have shown that people who rely more on emotion and intuition rather than reason and logic are much more likely to be religious/spiritual. Your answer is very accurate and poignant, in my opinion.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    The burden of proof certainly lies with the claimant. The FSM is a great example of the fact that no outlandish supernatural claim can be disproved. It makes much more sense to develop a worldview based only on that for which there is evidence.


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    Scott Bateman (promisem) 2 years ago

    Jeremy, pseudo intellectuals who say they want to debate an issue are actually seeking validation for their beliefs. When they don't get it, they get angry and make the debate personal.


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    Scott Bateman (promisem) 2 years ago

    If you need to have conscious contact with God to believe that it exists, and billions of people over thousands of years have had that contact, why does your lone experience lead you to believe that God doesn't exist and everyone else is wrong?


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    God is an illusion of human psychology, namely, the capacity to conceive of consciousnesses beyond the self. I am not interested in looking for signs or awaiting feelings. This is subjective dribble that fosters ignorance and superstition.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    That isn't quite accurate in my case. I am an atheist who is intensely interested in proof when I am accosted by a religious person who disagrees with my lack of faith in that for which there is no evidence.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    I went from agnostic to staunch atheist when I came to understand that claiming the existence of something does not automatically give it a philosophical 50/50 chance of being so. One could claim anything and then counter "you can't prove it DOESN'T"


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    I rely solely on logic and evidence because human perception is flawed and sensory illusions can play a major role in spiritual leanings. I used to think I'd seen ghosts, but now I realize they were just tricks of light and perception.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    Exactly.


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    Billie Kelpin 2 years ago

    I like your court-system analogy, Phil.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    How does your theoretical need for "much more than exceptional intellect" in order to design creation prove the existence of a creator? This kind of philosophical speculation is not viable evidence.


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    Thomas Swan 2 years ago

    I think the only reason for being atheistic rather than agnostic about leprechauns and unicorns is because cultural narratives have made the idea of their existence seem absurd. Philosophically, I think we should be equally agnostic about them.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    I disagree. If there exists no evidence for something, then there is no rational reason to believe that it exists.


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    Scott Bateman (promisem) 2 years ago

    Agree completely. Closed-minded atheists lump everything religious into one big pile and attack the flaws. Open-minded atheists make the kind of distinctions that you provided.


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    Insightful Tiger 2 years ago

    That is one of the most honest answers I have ever read on a forum like this.


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    Joseph O Polanco 2 years ago

    The majority of Atheists you'll find on here believe God does not nor cannot exist. Interestingly enough, though, they have absolutely zero evidence for their claim.


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    Austinstar 2 years ago

    Lady G - That is exactly what they did! Since no one has ever actually seen a god or group of gods, there is no way to assign names to them really! Except maybe by their "powers" - god of rain, sun, water, etc.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    It is amazing how poorly the bible holds up to scrutiny, but more amazing still how bad people are at admitting it.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    Humans don't come from apes, we are apes. We belong to a family of primates who share the same origin, just as all mammals, including rats and pigs, are more distantly related. You can't see oxygen either, but we have evidence for it's existence.


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    Jess (Jessica8526) 2 years ago

    If your wife or husband didn't believe or have faith that the other one loved them more than anything then they would really be nothing right? To prove it you'd have no faith in each other and proof denies faith and without faith it is nothing!


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    I won't argue with you because all of your assertions are simply wrong and indicate a lack of education and intellect. Your interpretation of evolution is based on popular misconception and your understanding of reality is unenlightened.


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    Jake Brannen (Spongy0llama) 2 years ago

    The truth is what matters. It is irresponsible and intellectually detrimental to "fill in the gaps" with religion. As you can see, I am opposed to rationalizing harmony between scientific truth and religious superstition.


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    Austinstar 2 years ago

    If God was not real, there would be no NEED to have atheists.


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    Eddy Von 2 years ago

    PS: proven fact - I will find scientific Proof if requested and post) but when a body dies, it is documented 4 ounces can not be accounted for in weight. theorize' this is the weight of a soul...unexplained but very interesting indeed!


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    Julie McFarland (JMcFarland) 2 years ago

    There is a difference between telling a believer that they're wrong and asking them to quantify or demonstrate that they're right, especially if they're trying to convince us to convert and believe what they do.


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