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@Joseph, we always find solutions and without those "evil" thigs and people we would never grow spiritualy and learn tohelp others. We would become stagnant. The planet and ppl do not work that way.
Debra, could you please delete all of JOPs comments? If not, please delete my answer entirely. His copy/pasted diatribes make me ill. I choose to ignore everything he says and would rather not have him associated anywhere near my name.
"There is simply no greater fool than the one who refuses to accept what has been revealed to be true ." - Unknown
Sorry AS for not getting this sooner. The thing is with these types of ppl they can do no research on their own. His last statement proves it. They think it is Love but it is only HATE. He goes round and round with and never is satisfied.
Thank you. I really do have little regard for people who limit themselves. That's one reason that I like you so much! You have such an open mind!
Oh and I have been told my brains are falling out. lol Some ppl are so afraid of learning new things, it is ridiculous. When I was told about the Banned Books and how you will go to Hll if you read them...I read them! They have cuz 2 B afraid. TRTH
See Ezekiel 33:8, 9.
@Joseph and others, I do NOT want to see Bible Scripture on my ?'s unless I aks for them. I will not play the mery-go-round of scripture. You have brains, so use them.
Last I checked, only Atheists and Antichrists despise the sublime Word of God. Which one are you again?
Get me his/her email address and we wil have a debate. Phone number. Or postal address, also ok. Does he/she. Have a twitter account contact me on any of the above. Or talk to my mind to me personally and this hopeful believer will send the word out
I don't see a problem with doing all that you have listed. We will be able to terraform planets, create robotic creatures, the cosmos is already organized. BTW - dinosaurs are already extinct. We can also decide to save ourselves from doom.
Dinosaurs are extinct but humans did not do it to them. The planets are already there, with or without us. We don't create them in this form. If we access a higher knowledge we can.
Iam quite sure that humans will be able to do these things and more. We have all the time in the universe to accomplish anything we want.
That would only be true if man were infallible and omniscient. As is the case, he is anything but.
I agree with Sri T here. We humans did not make any evolution decisions, nor any planetary decisions. The cosmos is already organized but it's definitely not the work of humans. Maybe in future we'll able to do these things, but not as an individual.
How little your minds are, to not be able to see the future. You see obstacles everywhere instead of opportunities. As long as you think you can't do these things, you will be correct. But one day, we will be able to do this and more.
...and Jesus said that we would do more than he...and so we are but we are blinded from those who wish to keep us controlled and in the dark about lots of things. See behind the curtain of social pressures, religion and politics.
@Austinstar Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you don't like disagreement, too bad. Calling other's minds as little is just a reflection on yourself.
If you think I am looking into a mirror by calling your mind 'little' , then your mind is even smaller than I can say. Why not try the opposite and make your mind larger? Or is it just too much trouble for you guys to learn new things?
Satan would have us think we were like God. That is what got him into trouble in the first place. To think of yourself as a god is to be proud, and God hates that sin above all. We are men, and there are limits as to what we can do.
And that's why you'll never win a Nobel prize.
Star, U R being lied to. I want to more fights or arguments from you.
If Satan isn't real then who tempted Jesus to sin three times? (Luke 4:1-13)
@Joseph, I suggest that you read your Bible moe deeply and learn about the History of the times that it was written and the plight of the people, not just Israel, but Rome and England and all those mixed up in those times. Older Versions on Bible too
Thank you for your reply, however, I fail to see how it answers my simple query. Can you elaborate?
hhahah amazing @sir T
we can't do a single work from your this list .. @ L.A why creating robotic creatures if man is so genus then create a man like structure .. these all are just your reasons to live and to enjoy an atheist live just .
@Joseph, I refuse to go around and around and around with you. Just do it and stop the insanity. I will not spon feed an adult what they should know ho to do themselves.
Theists love to quote their bibles! How many books does it take for an atheist to make a good argument? Answ: ALL of them!
If you were unwilling or simply unable to explain your bizarre reasoning, why answer the question in the first place?
I should think you would do better to turn to a doctor to eliminate your suffering and to your own self to fix your problems. We will one day be able to answer your questions on everything, no god needed.
God is not outside. God lives in the body of everyone.
@temptor94 you are right we don't have any knowledge about any thing God is the one having the knowledge and command over every thing .. we should be thankful to Him for every thing very blessings we have instead of being an atheist
@Omer, if God was in charge of everything then why did Jesus tell s us to Heal Ourselves? He also admonished many when he told us that we are of little faith (in ourselves).
And just where in the Bible did Jesus say any of that? Are you just making stuff up again while hoping nobody dares challenge you on it?
Jehovah God created man to live eternally. Death was only introduced as a result of man's defiance of God's sovereignty. See Genesis 2 & 3.
Joseph--Did this god know or not know of Mans defiance prior to the act? It would appear that your god did not know what Man would do--how then is he a god?
Jehovah God had no good reason to suspect his creation would betray him. Why would he? He had been nothing but a perfect loving father to Adam and Eve!
Sos a perfect "loving" father would push them out for something they were set up for? That makes no sense man and a father would never do that to his own children. That is a MAN thing, not GOD.
Adam and Eve weren't set up. Like Christ Jesus they too were merely tested. The only difference is that Christ was loyal to his loving Father while those two chose not to be.
Joseph--In your admission, " no good reason to suspect." your god is not all-knowing. This does not qualify as a god. You need to rethink your position.
The ONLY thing God does not know is how we individually choose to live our lives and the ONLY reason He doesn't know is out of respect for our Free Will.
I guess you never heard of The Testube Baby, that lives even today and has her own children, or how we are growing body parts from our own genes, or Stem Cell Therapy....
God provided the means by which the test tube baby was born, and God is the one who granted the knowledge of stem cell therapy. If God wills it, it happens.
Are you seriously suggesting man created the spermatozoa, female egg and uterus used in in vitro fertilization? Boy, you Atheists are a hoot! :)
@Joseph. hahahahahaha! I am NOT an Atheist. Go on with urself and Star too. U 2 are the biggest comediens I have ever met. hahahahaha!
If it quacks like an Antichrist Atheist, waddles like one and bears the fetor of one ...
@Joseph your ignorance and stupidity are showing. I will not have any of your derogatory remarks.
@Star read your bible and tell us where Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven is and where God resides and all the laws are....WITHIN all of us. I no lie!
Jesus never said that the kingdom of God was within us; He said we had to look for it; that no one could get to the Father except through Him; Heaven is a place, and we need to choose Jesus and invite Him into our hearts!
Star is that waht your preacer told you? Look a bit further. It is there I promise.
It says that right in the bible! John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
That is not the verse tha I am talking about.
Then what is the verse you are talking about? Quote it, please.
I will not, you look for it. Look Within up on Biblegateway do com in the Young's Literal Translation. It is in the NT.
The only thing that pops up is Nehemiah 6:10. Other than that, I type in "Kingdom of God within us" and I get no results.
Star, Luke 17:21
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (KJV)
You've interpreted it wrong. Read the whole paragraph, not just the verse line. Jesus is saying that the kingdom of God is not going to come the way we'd expect.
*I* have interpeted it wrong??? I have read the whole paragrapn and the whole chapter. He said the kingdom is within you not outside of you....church will teach you the it is outside and that is wehre you get your confusion from.
He meant that the kingdom of God is among you--when you pray with others, God is in your midst.
It does not say anything like that! Boy I don't know about you. He also mentions himself as the son of man and not of God..interesting eh?
Actually, the passage correctly reads,"ἰδοὺ γὰρ ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐντὸς ὑμῶν ἐστιν" that is to say, "For look! the Kingdom of God is ***IN YOUR MIDST***.”"(Emphasis mine) Christ was referring to himself as the King of God's Kingdom.(cf. Mt. 6:9,10)
Oh, it is a certainty that man CAN destroy the whole world. Ever since the development of the atomic bomb. Or haven't you ever heard of it?
Man can and is destroying the world! Man could destroy the world very quickly with the bombs that have been created.
@hvk940 exactly we can't do any thing you are right ..
@ L.A Cargill you are right man can destroy the world but are you not familiar that who creates the atom which man is using in atomic reaction .. can you or any man can create the atoms never ..
You make a great point Omer!
God can't destroy the whole world since Whole World and God is the same. God can't destroy himself :)
Omer, ask yourself, why are humans so obsessed with the idea of "creation". You can accept that "a god" was never created, but you can't accept that the whole universe was never created?
Because the universe is 13.70 billion +/- years old. Whatsoever begins to exist always has a cause. The cause of the universe's beginning was God.
So, how old is this god and where did it come from and where does it live?
God is timeless, which necessarily means he's always existed, and, because he created the universe, he naturally exists outside of it. Here are the details: http://bit.ly/10j5YgK
Have you looked up the meaning of the word "universe"? There is no "outside" of it.
So the singularity which supposedly birthed our universe 13.70 +/- billion years ago existed where exactly?
String theory is no longer considered a workable model for the universe. You need to keep up.
Medice, cura te ipsum.
String? Puhlease. Try Borde-Guth-Vilenkin.
why we are fighting here.....
We don't NEED to be "saved". And if we need help, we need to look within ourselves.
Sure we do. If let purely to man's designs we will all perish in a thermonuclear war or some other peril caused by man.
Why is everyone so negative about people and about oneselves? Jesus told us that the answers and the Kingdom that we seek is within us. Why the resistance and who is putting it there and why?
It is also said in the bible that the heart is wicked.
Old or New Testament and if it is of anything St. Paul says, then it is not true. What comes from the heart is wicked if you so chooe it to be. If you have no idea what I am talking about check your thoughts and your heart.
Are you saying Paul is a liar? The same Paul who wrote ACTS?
He had a different agenda that Jesus did, put it that way.
Really? Are you really so oblivious to all of the violence, mayhem and terrorism going on in the world right now? That's all MAN'S doing.
@joseph, are that blind to not be able to see all the good that we are doing? Try reading NatGeo, Smithsonian, Mother Earth News, Science and Tech stuff. Open your eyes!
Until man can learn to live in peace and harmony with his fellow man all of those "accomplishments" are worthless.
@joseph, and it all begins with Self and no one else. Find peace and love WITHIN, not outside. One persons peace will never be like anothers. Peace Be With You...Jesus said. My Peace I give To You..in your Heart WITHIN you. Find Your Peace.
And what of those who love violence and death? No, only when Christ Jesus as Heavenly King of God's Kingdom brings these to account for their wrongdoing at Armageddon will we all finally have true peace and security.
come on .. God is the one who is the creature of every thing we cant neglect Him
Amen Joseph! To say we need to look within ourselves to find God--that is buddhist or yoga or something. We need Jesus!
Thanks Star! :)
Aw jeez, why didn't your all powerful, all knowing god just do it right in the first place? Was he just too mean? Or too stupid to figure out that mankind was going to mess everything up? And you guys just keep waiting around for him to fix his mess?
Luke 17:20-22 And having been questioned by the Pharisees, when the reign of God doth come, he answered them, and said, `The reign of God doth not come with observation;
21 nor shall they say, Lo, here; or lo, there; for lo, the reign of God is withi
Yep, take some personal responsibility and quit waiting for a god to fix you.
Man cannot thwart God's original purpose. He most certainly will fulfill his intent to convert the entire Earth into a paradise filled with only the good. The time that elapses until then serves to answer THE most important question of the universe.