I stumbled across several new hubs recently talking about how if you don't follow Jesus, you're going to hell to be consumed by both fire and insects forever. Non believers recognize this for what it is - an appeal to emotion (namely fear) to convince others to join certain beliefs. They seem to enjoy describing the torments in gleeful detail, not realizing that Christianity certainly does not have a monopoly on the conveyor of eternal torment, yet they aren't the least bit afraid of other hells. Why do they think the fear is enough to warrant belief in unprovable doctrines?
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Or a physical body to feel pain with. "Spirits" don't feel pain, and they have no flesh to hurt.
In hell You could watch endless reruns of creationist videos.
Your soul would probably get reckted an hour in.
No way, zelk, facts again? I wonder why they think souls are affected by fire. Oh, it must be spiritual fire?
But one day Jesus will raise all of us up and give us new glorified bodies, that cannot be killed. You and your new body will be cast into hell, and the fire will ever consume you.
Except, according to the Bible, the only people who get shiny new bodies are the denizens of Heaven. It says absolutely nothing about the damned getting new bodies.
No, even those bound for hell will get new bodies.
Star...do you realize you essentially confirmed the sadistic tendency of your god? He will raise all those that are hellbound to give them new bodies that can NEVER die again just so they can suffer eternally.
But he loves us...
Yes Link, call it what you will. I don't know why God does what He does, but His ways are not our ways...Everything happens for a reason and for God's glory.
Psalm 14 says: "The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God."
None of what I said was a personal attack on you. I'm just saying what the bible is saying.
You get that the majority of atheists, including (I think) those of us commenting on this thread DON'T say there is no God, right? There is a big difference between withholding belief and affirming the opposite. You're creating a strawman.
I have removed anything that could even be seen as a personal attack, and the responses to it in order to allow the conversion to continue. No response to my question, Star?
An atheist says there is no god. An agnostic says there might be a god. I believe you call yourself an atheist, therefore, you do not believe there is a god.
@ Julie. Thank you.
Do you think you know what an atheist is better than an atheist, Star? You are creating a strawman out of the strong atheist position. Not believing in a god is not the sane thing as saying there is no God. To insist otherwise is a fallacy.
What atheist says there is no god? All of them, or some?
I do hope you realize star there are such things as agnostic and gnostic atheists/theists.
I don't see the difference. It says in the bible that it's very black and white. You're either for God or against God.
1. You can't be against something you don't believe in. 2. There is a difference between saying "I don't believe in aliens" and"there are no aliens". You may not be able to tell the difference, but there is one. Asserting a strawman is dishonest.
This coming from a person who also decided that Islam was satanic, that other self professed Christians aren't her kind of Christian so they're not real Christians at all and that JWs are saved. It sounds like she thinks she's god with the judging
I agree, although I have met some believers who seem to enjoy taking about hell, not the least bit afraid for the people who will go there, if true. I just don't know why they think it's compelling enough to believe for us.
Because they know they have no better reason to provide, which also leads them into making up the most random crap, whether it be about what sends you to hell or why you purposely send yourself there.
Pascals wager is another appeal to emotion, and it totally falls short of its intended target without the fallacy of special pleading. http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Pasca...
Satan is very crafty. He does what he does extremely well.
Yes, according to the magic book that says how bad it is with absolutely no bias whatsoever. God created evil and Satan, who incidentally was never "the devil" until the new testament.
Unless you can show how the other religions are made up and yours isn't, then yes its purely an appeal to emotion and nothing else.
I find the logic behind your first 2 sentences to be completely backwards as well.
Link, Islam started when Satan disguised himself as the archangel Gabriel and appeared to Mohammud, and helped him write the Koran. The Koran is basically a rip off of the bible. Satan mimics God always.
Do you have proof of your assertion about Islam, star? for someone who insists all beliefs should be given respect (our at least yours) that wasn't very respectful of you, nor was the irrelevant strawman you created earlier of atheists.
Julie--read it. Any apologetic will tell you the same thing. I don't mean any disrespect--I have to admit I should use more tact...working on that.
I'm sure that would go over well since the only places that probably contain those "facts" are Christian based and completely unbiased.
I'm sure Christian apologists claim that, but it's a claim. Threw is no proof, other than a bald assertion on your (and their) part. I could say the sane thing about Christian belief. Does that make it true or factual?
It is my understanding that Allah (their word for god, not a name) is the same deity as Christianity. They are both branches off of the Abraham tree, which makes them variants, not opposites.
Basically. "Allah" translates to "The One (and Only) God," and is used in the same manner as the Hebrews used "El" or "Adonai" to avoid speaking aloud the True Name in vain.
Yep, i concure on pasquels wager. Wrote a hub about the mozlem god and how much more scary sounding than the christian sundy fundy god. Hell isnt even scriptural so i wont bother warning anyone.