Dogs and Swine? Really? Why does a person of such reverence as Jesus have to resort to such petty and divisive tactics as this? Just as in Psalms 14:1, why do divine sacred beings need to resort to such offensive and dishonest slander? And why is there a premium given to those who abdicate their minds in lieu of common sense and logic? Is this bullying? Are Christians who accept and follow this offensive language just flunkies, following a perceived powerful bully, who they dare not confront? This just seems like a vicious bully that gets his way through fear, intimidation, and coercion.
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Did not Jesus say that after you have removed the log from your own eye, you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from the eye of your neighbor?
First all of these things - plank,speck,dog,swine occur together in Matt 7. They are a package deal. Secondly, the section is introduced by saying "Don't judge unless you want that standard used against you". The point is personal responsibility.
Yes. I agree it is personal responsibility. But Jesus did not mean that we should never judge another; we must make moral distinctions when people treat the gospel as cheap. He meant that a follower of Christ should not be given to harsh criticism.
The Christ follower should practice humility, considering others before/above self. Judgment is not discerning good/evil, but condemning, it is a negative action. Christ did not come to condemn (read John 3), thus we ought not either.
Elsewhere, Jesus said that we should judge with righteous judgment (John 7:24). I agree that we should not have a condemnatory attitude when rendering judgment. Paul wrote that he had "already judged" a certain man (1 Cor. 5:3).
In John, Jesus is saying if the Pharisees can't even discern demons/God's work they should reevaluate their paradigm. Paul is decrying incest, if the man is unrepentant, then walk away and leave him to God, that he might be saved. CONTEXT
Regardless of who He is talking to, the principle remains: judge with righteous judgment.
You have passed over the fact that Paul has already judged him. He told the Corinthians to discipline this man by committing him to Satan's domain.
Practice right judgment, don't assume you have it all together. Humility not hubris. Paul qualifies "commit to Satan" with "that he might be saved". Paul says don't coddle him, enabling only makes the situation worse. Anyway, I'm out, things todo
Do u know Satan, or did u get all your info from a bias God, who apparently vilifies his opponents? And why do u think its ok to bully other people just because they are supporters of someone who has a different view than your own? Guess I'm a dog :(
Are you a Satanist?
Of course I'm not a Satanist. What would give you that idea? I was just looking at both sides of this fairy tale, and dissecting the story from the perspective of equal rivals, slinging mud at each other. But we as readers, only get to hear one side.
If it's all just a "fairy-tale" what do you care?
Joseph, the problem is that u think its NOT a fairy tale. That's why I care. When u see me, and others, as being aligned with an evil entity that does not exist, its frightening what could proceed from that. Salem Witch Trails come to mind.
So just because someone is in league with Satan that makes it ok to verbally abuse them, and think of them as sub-human, huh?! And u have never even met anyone called Satan. U hate a character in a book. Do u see how dangerous your beliefs are?
Yes, and Satan is the ultimate evil, the accuser. Do you know how dangerous your thinking is?
This is why there is no love, but only conflict in religion. Your God is the one who created this conflict, then turn around and says that this conflict is because of some Satan. God is so GOOD..that he decided to create conflict. This is Madness!
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