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D: Yes, we are ALL "sons of God" if IN Jesus! The Us/Our "validates" that Jesus has MANY GLORIES! Omnipresent! Creator/Christ/Now HOLY SPIRIT (JESUS) gathering Church!
I pick you because you can reason. From a literal perspective, because we are the reality as it says created, satan also was a faithful angel longago, but began to entertain his thoughts against the Father, he created himself as a resister Satan .
Jn 4:24 "in Spirit" not literally! That's why Jesus is God is a problem for most bcuz they "see" the Words Father & Son & thk as of us father & son which is NOT the case! GOd's ways r not as ours! "I AM" = "ALL= Jehovah=God=Jesus!"
Norine God JEHOVAH created us . Are we sharing his body? We are individuals, he is eternal he can not die, Jesus died as an Individual but awaken by his Father to a spiritual body again.
Why is it we exist and Jesus can not unless he is the Father?
K&T: He doesn't have "a body!" HE is SPIRIT & YES we share THAT SAME SPIRIT if IN Christ! Jesus' SPIRIT NEVER DIED only the flesh! Jesus DOES exist for He is operating n the GLORY of Holy Spirit gathering THE CHURCH!
If you say Jesus did not fully die , then you error , because that was a payment for us a humans , but Jesus was awaken and given a spirit body. His flesh and all died, but the resurrection of him in a spirit body was given.after death of 3 days.
K&T: U look @ "flesh" which died NOT His Spirit! He was busy I Pet 3:15-18 those 3 days after (physical) death & 40 days thereafter before ascension!
If "I & my Father r ONE," GOD died! If so, the whole world would've collapsed!
So God was talking to someone saying let us, notice,.Col 1:16 All other things have been created through him and for him.Just like you decide to have a child , you create a wonderful home of activities for your Family even a pet.we exist for Jesus
K&T: V17 "And he (Jesus) is before all things.." Who but GOD! V20 "reconcile thgs unto HIMSELF?" What Jesus reconciling thgs unto Himself? Must be GOD!
Thank you Lone77star. For your time and thinking about the question asked, it was to point to the spiritual family of Angelic Sons.
My point was that as there are thousands of thousands of Sons there could not exist a trinity. Jesus was the first .
K&T: God's ways r not like our ways (father & son vs Father & Son). His Son (Jn 1:14)came in the "Glory" as of (like a) Son but was Him (GOD) because the Word (GOD) was made flesh (Jesus Christ) so says Jn 1:14! Put Spiritual eyes on &
Norine there you go again jumping off the pages of the bible to say what you believe
Which is not on harmony with scriptures.
Husband and wife are considered to be one flesh, but they have different Bodies with different names except the last.
K&T: Well, give me ur explanation of Jn 1:1-14; especially v10!
Col 1:16 Simple Norine Ge 1:26And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, is God Almighty flesh like us No , but he is love, we love, he cares we care, he is creative so are we, we carry his attributes.
K&T: Yes, we have "the Spirit of God" that ONE SPIRIT rec'd n Acts 2:2! "Spiritually" not "carnally!" Jn 4:24 r not believing/worshiping! Col 1:16 talking about Jesus ("created ALL thgs?")! So is Col 2:9 "ALL the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
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Norine, Notice KJ deletes God's name and uses all capital letters , meaning Jehovah,
On other scriptures Lord is used for Jesus.
K&T: Eph 4:4-6 ONE LORD (GOD aka JESUS)! Phil 2:9 "At the NAME of JESUS..." Jehovah (GOD) is "What" He is' NOT who He is! ONE LORD who's name is JESUS!
He is JEHOVAH (GOD) but HIS NAME is JESUS!
Norine if we have a conversation and I tell you to sit on my right side , and we both have different names , we are two different persons,if we are the same why would or how can I sit next to you.
Only one seat is needed.
The scriptures are truth
Ps 45:5 Is 41:10 "Right Hand of God" means "righteousness" not His Arms (literally)! Look Spiritually! "Until I (The SPIRIT of GOD never been to earth) make Your (THE SAME SPIRIT who's been to earth) makes ur enemies ur footstool." Ps 110:1
Norine , Notice ! King James Version
Ac 2:34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,.
Here is a conversation between LORD (Jehovah) and Lord (Jesus)
It is very clear.
Dear Heart, u MUST thk "Spiritually!" NO! Here is a conv w/THE SPIRIT speaking to THE GLORY of THE SAME SPIRIT gathering THE CHURCH! There is but ONE SPIRIT Eph 4 w/NUMEROUS GLORIES! NOT ONLY 3 mentioned n "Trinity," but Others 2! Rem: "I AM?"
Joh 10:17This is why the Father loves me, because I surrender my life, so that I may receive it again.Ge 2:24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh,
One is used to combine.
K&T: The "Glory" (Spirit) of the Father (ONE Spirit) has never been "subjected" to the world; therefore that SAME SPIRIT is greater! Not 2 diff ppl but ONE Spirit (GLORIES); else "Trinity!" Re: Gen: Yes ONE Spirit Eph 5:32 as Christ is to Church!