If an abortion in the late term is murder why isn't abortion in the early term a

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   Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years ago

   If an abortion in the late term is murder why isn't abortion in the early term also murder?

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   Zelkiiroposted 8 years ago

   In the early term, the zygote doesn't have a functioning brain or nervous system, so it can't feel pain or process thought. Thus, in the early term, the zygote is not fully a human yet and so its termination is not necessarily worth making a fuss over.
   
   In the late term, however, it obviously has finished forming its brain and its nervous system is well on the way to completion, so it can totally feel pain and process thought. At this point, it's a fetus, and is clearly and obviously human, so its termination would be much more problematic.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If a zygote is not a human being what is it?

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      Zelkiiroposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      A parasite that will eventually metamorphose into a human being if left alone.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      A parasite? A parasite?! You see the life of human beings in utero as tapeworms?!?! What an utterly loathsome and cold-blooded way for you to view humanity. But thank you for demonstrating how Atheism mangles the moral compass of its adherents ...

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      M. T. Dremerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Dictionary.com defines parasite as: "an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment." Other than the species thing, it's an accurate description. Not an insult.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Except that a baby is not an invading organism; there's no immunological response by the mother's body. To the contrary, it actively nurtures and provides for him/her. So, yes, referring to an in-utero human being as a parasite is inhuman!!

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      M. T. Dremerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There is actually an immunological response. It takes special signaling proteins to turn off the tissue's attempts to reject the baby. And it often doesn't work, which can result in miscarriages and early labor. It's well documented.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Those cases are the exception, not the norm. In healthy pregnancies the mother's decidua is a perfect safe haven for her child. This is clearly not a parasite-host dynamic. That you insist on referring to it as so is absolutely despicable!!

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      M. T. Dremerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't refer to it as such, I just said the description of the word was accurate. That doesn't mean I think babies are bad or that life doesn't have value. You went negative when you generalized atheists as immoral, which is "absolutely despicable"

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Aren't all Atheists pro-abortion?

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       Zelkiiroposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I'll answer your question with another: Aren't all Christians pro-life?
       
       Hint: The answer is "no." And don't even try invoking the No True Scotsman fallacy, because, well, it's a fallacy.

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       M. T. Dremerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       No, all atheists aren't pro-abortion. If anything, not believing in an afterlife, makes this life that much more rare and precious.

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   lone77starposted 8 years ago

   It is.
   
   Once conceived, it is a human life. Anyone who quibbles with this doesn't understand the significance of this.
   
   Just because it is an inconvenience to the mother is no excuse. Consciously taking the life of another is murder.
   
   Once we are convinced to value any human life less, we are on the road to viewing all human life as worthless. For those who are pathologically selfish, this can be seen as a good thing.

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      Zelkiiroposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Relevant viewing, courtesy of the late great George Carlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K98TQJ5ldW0

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      “A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members”. – Mahatma Gandhi

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   tlmcgaa70posted 8 years ago

   GOD does not need humans to believe in HIM in order for HIM to exist. GODs laws do not rely on people accepting them to be valid. GOD says taking a human life is murder. life begins at conception. just because people choose to ignore this does not change it in the least. mans laws are not always in harmony with GODs laws...this is true on an ever increasing scale in these days. people find many ways to justify their lifestyles or their actions, but it does not make it right. killing a fetus at ANY stage of a pregnancy is murder. no matter how it is looked at.

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