How Did Jesus Fulfill The Law?

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   PhoenixVposted 8 years ago

   How Did Jesus Fulfill The Law?
   
   

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   Kiss andTalesposted 8 years ago

   The old law was a tutor to a greater law that was better, it was greater because it would put an end to animal gifts of sacrifice. JESUS value was so high that no human of Adam and Eve alone could cover the tab to buy us more time , extended life , opportunity
   To return and live under the New Government of Jesus.
   No other name given even at this late date
   To save all humanity from death eternal
   Many great men have been born , but not one have done what Jesus have done for us.
   No where in history , also Jesus death covered many generations of people not just the year and time he was born in but ours and what is allowed could be Last generations or could be a few more , but we have come to the end of Satan's rule.
   Jesus has done his part now it is up to us to do ours.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      To Elijah, Isa 55:9“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts.
      New World Translation
      Ps 90:4 For a thousand years are in your eyes just as yesterday

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I understand that and is why I reject human's doctrine, being the first of our regeneration to become spiritually born into the higher mind of god is why my message is so foreign to human's.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Once that has been completed,  then just as it was in Noah's day , then the earth will be cleaned again,  those who are still living during and after the clean up will be allowed
      To help the earth transform into a beautiful paradise of peace.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: Ur msg "is so foreign to ppl" because u claim to be "GOD!"  Give SCRIPTURE saying u r or I think "insane!" 
      K&T: Why talk about Jesus' "New Government" when we should be trying to become citizens by doing Gal 1:6-9?Why talk of future? Do NO

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah the scriptures give the exact amount chosen, but they have to be sealed in, meaning they have to stay faithful until death as Jesus did. REV:2:10. Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown
      Of life. 144000 picked,

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T, 144K + an innumerable number. Based on the 10 virgins 10% of man are sealed with half surviving it. Noah's flood & Rev 12:15-16 are the same, Armageddon is the ark, Rev 16:14's battle the Red Sea, blood, causing Rev 19:21 then the transi

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      BOTTOM LINE:  If ANYONE doesn't live according to how JESUS commanded us to live until He returns (Gal 1:6-9) , one can FORGET  "inheriting the kingdom" no matter who thks what!

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   The0NatureBoyposted 8 years ago

   Jesus did not live the law, he lived by the grace Isaiah 7:14-16 presents that, when interpreted, reveals the following. 
   
   Isaiah 7:
   14 Therefore the Lord [YHWH] himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin [person of virtue] shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel [god in man].
   
   15 Butter [a food not for man processed into one for us representing civilization man processing the bees and ants way of life into forming civilization] and honey [a food produced in excess by bees for bees and any animated being able to get it without harming the bees] shall he eat [intellectually consume the understanding of], that he may know to refuse the evil [civilization], and choose the good [life in the self-reproducing environment like all other beings of earth].
   
   16 For before the child [messiah] shall know to refuse the evil [civilization], and choose the good [the self-reproducing environment], the land that thou [manm-en-mass] abhorrent [death that man dread and is afraid of] shall be forsaken of both [the 2 of] her kings [god over all good man and satan over all evil man]. 
   
   That is the law of grace that Yoshua called Jesus lived.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      To Elijah 2Pe 3:8 However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
      You have to understand that

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I understand 2 Pet 3:8 is why the transition from Rev 21's civilization to this one and this one back to Rev 21's are 7000 years each in the cycle governing man on earth.  It's why each of those  civilization is 84,000 years each.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah ,The question you asked was when his cure will be administered to humans, .
      We'll Jesus has been appointed to the heavenly seat of Government , what he has been doing is finding citizenship of the many that are willing to accept his rulership

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I asked why do humans still discarnate is he paid the price for human's acts.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: He only "paid the price" for BELIEVERS!  It's avail to ALL but only those who "ACCEPT" will inherit the Kingdom of God! You know this!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah I try to wait for a comment box to pop up ,Ro 6:23 For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord
      This is true ,Jesus was perfect with no sin
      But he died, so who sins would he cover ? Our

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Any denomination that has "created" their "own bible," questionable!
      
      Study for TRUTH!  Jn 4:24! II Tim 3:16! Gal 1:6-9!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine what I am saying is this example say you want to be a doctor, could you rely on one source to be a doctor one book, No
      You use King James as the Ultimate choice
      It has delete important facts mainly the Author name. Not reliable.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: What do u suggest? I get a version of "man's interpretation" (your bible)?  Where do u thk "he" got his interpretation fm? KJV but chg'd based on "his belief(s)!" 
      
      Hades, Sheol, Hell explain each! ALL where dead (spirits) goes only diff la

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine you judge before you inquire, I was a reader of King James as well , and I learned
       more about his translations,  there are others you can study and cross reference
       King James was a man as well with his own doctrine , so do bible research .

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       k&t: I Pet 3:15! "You give me the hope (Scriptures w/explanation) of the "hope that is in you" or false!  Only your denomination "sees" this!  Explain why via Scripture(s)!

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T, I know Ro 6:23 states that but how many spiritually people do you know per Joh 3:8 as evidence of it? How many have forsaken everything (Mat 19:29) for the gospel's sake? That's how many who have received the gift of life everlasting via chr

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine the truth is in the bible ,read and reference and use other bibles even before King James,
       I have not named any denominations , the truth is in the genuine writings,we do not need to name a religion to approve what is in the bible as truth.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T, That is what Isaiah 28:9-15 teaches those of us who are able to eat [comprehend] the book sweet in the mouth as honey [sounds blissful] and ingest it [painfully to achieve] (Rev 10:9-10).

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Elijah that was the apostle John vision , and as stated he preached to the nations , this is a continuous into our day, the nations would have to be preach to , Jesus said so as his last instructions to be carried out, Mt 24:14And this good news

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       That is also Ezekiel's vision, K&T, and the message must be preached to the whole world before the end comes, but that doesn't happen until after the fall of Mystery, Babylon when the 144k preaches it although few will receive it.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: U judge before u inquire! Diff languages do NOT eliminate HELL!  Does ur bible have Lk 16:19-31? What does it say? Did it LIE?
       
       U can continue & try to DISCREDIT THE WORD OF GOD (Not me) but IT IS WRITTEN!

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   Norine Williamsposted 8 years ago

   "It is finished" is what Jesus said before bowing His head and dying (John 19:30)!  He "gave up the spirit."  The  "physical" fulfillment of the law was over, giving us (bodies) examples of how we should live (physically) under New Covenant although His "Spiritual" promises had not yet been fulfilled!  The "law" was in the process of being "fulfilled!"  The "physical" portion of the law was fulfilled upon His "physical" death, but not the "Spiritual" portion of the law as "promises" had not yet been fulfilled.
   
   Why do I say this?  In John 14:26; 16:13 Jesus "promised" us the Holy Spirit who would "teach us" and "guide us into all truth."  On the Day of Pentecost "the promise" (John 14:26; 16:13) was "fulfilled" (Acts 2:2), the New Covenant was effective and "The Law" was fulfilled! 
   
   That same Holy Spirit "promised" in John 14:26 and 16:13 which came on The Day of Pentecost is now "putting His laws in our hearts and minds" (as with the apostles) as "promised" in Jeremiah 31:31-33; Hebrews 8:10 and 10:16!
   
   Consequently, if we are not living according to the New Covenant which went into effect on the Day of Pentecost when the "Original Church" was established in Acts 1 & 2, we are not living according to the "gospel of Christ!" 
   
   Again, I remind "everyone," Galatians 1:6-9 says "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the "grace" of Christ unto another gospel, (v7) Which is not another; but there are some that pervert the "gospel of Christ," (v8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach "any other gospel" unto you than that which we have preached unto you, "LET HIM BE ACCURSED." (v9) As we said BEFORE, so say I now AGAIN, If any man preach "any other gospel" unto you than that ye have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED."
   
   Why do you think the Holy Spirit (JESUS) had Paul right these Words TWICE?  It's a WARNING from JESUS!  Follow the "gospel of Christ" or "ACCURSED!"

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The "School Master" law is unfulfillable by anyone, god included & was written that the wise could reason with what the Commandments and laws Moses revealed against what is done in the self-reproducing environment  and become wise.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The law of Moses was like training wheels to a bike. The law was used to introduce humans to the Heavenly Father, to know his likes and dislikes , why?  Because humans needed a cure for inherited death, he worked out that cure Jesus purchased humans

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T, If Jesus was the cure to human's "inherited death" will you please explain why humans still die? That concept I have never understood even before my New Birth and the logic I have since it finds no substance nor evidence to support it (Heb 1

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      To Elijah , Jesus did not just cover a small group of people in one or two generations ,
      But his life paid for many like an insurance policy of group coverage, we are insured even if we die, we can come back, but we must make sure we do not void it

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If Jesus' crucifixion happen it will again 192,000 years from then by Ecc 1:9 and reaping and sowing says in a previous life his life-force crucified a previous Jesus, meaning he sowed and reaped that on himself so he paid for his own acts only.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Joh 1:29The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and he said: “See, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
      1Co 15:3For among the first things I handed on to you was what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      He provided the means for them to be gone but as John 3:19 say, "the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil" they killed him to continue their ways until I came.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: "until I came?" R u the "Anitchrist?"  Ur thinking is against Scripture!  Gal 1:6-9! 
      
      Why go against Gal 3:24-25 "WAS?"Fulfilld by GOD!
      
      Rm 1:25? Is that u? God will "give u up to vile affections!" (V26)
      
      This is "SERIOUS!"  Rethink ur belief!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine I am talking to Elijah as stated, we can not communicate because you do not read scriptures right, but you tell people what you think . No ! you promote youself not Jesus,  not his Father ,I can see no reason to listen to you, you are false.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: Look above! Did I address u n this section? "YOUR BIBLE" has not given me "PROOF" of anything u believe so u r false!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine the bible is the word of God , you speak your beliefs not what is in it, that is the difference, you jump off the page to your own reasoning that is false teachings
       The bible I use is broken down from Hebrew and Greek, False Assumption By you

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: So u say may resp to question is a lie?  Are these Scriptures not in "your" bible?  If not, "gospel of Christ" is not addressed!???
       
       If not in "your bible,"  no wonder you're confused!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       And you teach without that important fact , because it is missing where it should be.
       The point is your teachings is based on part truths not whole, And when some one points out parts you are missing you attack it, that makes you support false info

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: If I'm wrong, it's  ur job as a "Christian" to "CORRECT" me!  So, "correct me" by giving Scriptures justifying my response is a lie when stated  by JESUS!  Give or u lie & JESUS' Words STAND AS WRITTEN!

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Gee, NW, you do understand a few words, yes "until I came." 
       
       Thanks KAT, your addressing NW in that way is what I needed to stop responding to her.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Re 14:3And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T, they sung AS IT WERE a message man-en-mas can't grasp. They're Jews [chosen survivors] bridal party . The creatures (Rev 4:7) are Asians-man, Native Americans-eagle, Africans-calf and Europeans-lion of the unsealed & half of the sealed.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Eli: Look above! Did I respond to ur response? NO! U responded to MY response 1st!  No need to try & DISCREDIT "Truth!" What makes u "thk" ur 2nd Messiah (JESUS)! Why study "His return" when u don't no how to live where JESUS commanded u "present

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