I ask this question because last Wednesday one of my church members asked the preacher a very interesting question during bible study. However, the preacher didn't answer the man's question. The only thing the preacher said, "Brother, let me finish my bible study." My church member got a upset and walk out of bible study. Not to mention, he wasn't at church on Sunday. So was the preacher wrong for cutting him off
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Nichol, you're exactly right. No one question should be ignored
And if a member was being disruptive, any group leader should be able to ask that the group stay on topic. From the sounds of it, this could have become a private conversation between the preacher and the man with questions.
thank you for choosing my.amswer
If it was a bible study-- no If it was a bible teaching yes maybe. It clearly was NOT a bible study so the person that walked out was right and the hireling was wrong. I would have rebuked preacher for lying to me about it being a study
That, and ministers are imperfect people just like everyone else. He may have responded poorly in the moment, and then had no opportunity to correct the situation within the group setting because the other gentleman responded in anger and walked out.
I have been in Bible studies where everything wasn't covered because of questions and comments and there wasn't enough time.
LR- there want enough time? then the "leader: does not know how to lead a bible study. he is just teaching his beliefs as most hirelings do
cela-when you have an hour slot and sixty people in the group I would rather it run past the time than have the leader doing a rush job. Personally an hour is way too short,imagine doing the Book of Psalms in an hour
lr..there should be no time limit on a bible study *just a guide line). the ones that need to leave do so, the others stay til they are done..the only place time limit is important is with church people in USA.,
Yes Cela! Who can "control" or "set time to" THE SPIRIT? If Holy Spirit there, go wherever (no matter how long) HE "leads!"
Don't "quench the Spirit!" (I Thess 5:19)
One of my biggest faults is patience or should I say lack of it. Keep reminding myself God's timing is not my timing
Lois: We ALL r human (me 2), but God KNOWS the heart!
If Holy Spirit leading, 1 will miss new revelation "growing into His likeness." For "the Word is ALIVE..." (Heb 4:12) & we r "growing" (II Cor 3:18) into His likeness."
Serenity: How else can 1 learn unless "man" tell him? Acts 8:31! Our job: "plant seed (WORD), but ONLY GOD gives increase." I Cor 3:6! Jn6:44;65!
Hopefully u guys teach "AFTER THE CROSS" or after The Day of Pentecost; otherwise, Galatians 1:6-9!
personally I get offended if no one asks questions as that means they are either are not interested or are foolish enough to believe what anyone teaches without checking it out.
But that doesn't mean everyone feels that way, and we should respect what the speaker wants. Questions can be asked later
Mara: Then it's not a "study" but PREACHING! Can students not ask "questions" in classroom? Why diff? Attitude="Don't interrupt what "I" will "instill" in you!" Watch it sheep! Not what Scripture says "respect speaker" but he should I Pet 3:15!
mara- a bible study and a bible teachingaretwo different thing. A bible study is where 2 or more get together to DISCERN TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE. a bible teaching is where a person is teaching his beliefs.
no question= cant fully defen his beliefs
Charlie: So how do u describe blvr who does as Hubber LINK describes? Christian? Complacent? Given "reprobate mind?" How does 1 get to 1 who is "Happy in "their" belief" & wishes not to discuss Scripture if in disagreement?
AFTER THE CROSS or
yes the hireling cannot admit they do not have the answers. the corrct response is "i do not know but I will research it and get back to you" then there is no class confusion
Get: Just curious! What was your question?
Did u go there only to do as u do on HP: "test" as the Scribes & Pharisees did JESUS? LOL
I asked if John 14:12 proves that we can exceed the power of Jesus...and perform miracles beyond what Jesus could do?
Get: Who's "beyond" Jesus? Why'd u ask such a senile question?
Christ meant due His limited time on earth (in the flesh), our (same Supernatural events) would be greater (more) than His.
NO ONE exceeds or go "beyond" MY JESUS!
I guess it all depends on if He meant greater in number or greater in importance.
Get: How can we (creations) be "greater in importance?" His "time" was limited but we can in no way be greater than the Creator! Therefore, greater in number if we exercise "FAITH" to the max which would give "proof" to unbelievers! Why I don't no
We can be greater than the creator if that creator was created by mere mortal humans....which is most obviously the case.
And of course, believers have given no proof whatsoever to non-believers, as magic does not exist...in the real world.
Get: Holy Spirit asked me to ask unblvrs "Provide a book w/as many ACCURATE prophecies written BEFORE Bible that have been "fulfilled?"
Until then, "PROVE" there isn't a GOD?"
First of all, there is no evidence of any imagined phantoms talking with anyone. Secondly, u keep proposing the same irrelevant question as if it has some kind of bearing on the truth of the existence of your God. It has NO BEARING WHATSOEVER.
Get: Can't provide? Bible WAS written thousands of yrs ago w/such accuracy re: prophecies & u refuse to believe "facts" which u demand? Why do u use "reasoning & logic" when researching other but simply say "has NO BEARING " when "facts" pres
Sorry but I don't think u understand what the term "fact" means, because there has certainly been no facts presented here. All I see is wishful thinking based entirely on misleading and outrageous claims...twisted to vaguely confirm a false premise.
gir you clearly do not belong on this section as it is for Christias, not Christian bashers. Iif ithis was my hub I would be deleting your posts from now on
Get. Agreed Charlie!
Get: "a truth known by actual experience or observation." TRUTH: Bible written before 9/11. Prophesied in Is 9:10/11! Come on now. U don't want to ACCEPT! Why?
Why do u HATE GOD? Sin Bad?
Thanks for your opinion Charlie...maybe your God should just put me in my place. He is ALL POWERFUL and everything, right?
gr be careful what you ask for He just might do that. he did it for me 45 yrs ago
Questions can led to further Bible Studies
Did JESUS not "answer ALL questions?" Aren't we "supposed to be" Christ-like? Then....What? Are we or are we not "striving"
to be Christ-like?
Teachers of "The Gospel of Christ" should not leave one "striving" but give Scripture! Then Jm 1:5!
We are always learning each day. I would rather learn and learn and learn than be a know-it-all after a few lessons
l:ouis- I was not sayng a bible teaching is wrong, just that they are two different things
Lois: NO ONE "knows IT (GOD) all!" II Cor 3:18 says "we chg fm glory to glory" depending upon our "belief" and "faith" in HIS WORD.
It's our position to STUDY to KNOW what HE'S SAID by "rightly dividing" WORD!
if you attend a bible study that turns out to be a bible teaching then the teacher should be rebuked for lying to you. remember truth is only available to you if you ask the Holy Spirit to confirm it.. always ask Him
Do a lot of Bible Studies at church and home and sometimes at the ones at home I have to stop because they start straying from the Bible. For ex. there was one that stressed more on believing in the Baptism than in Believing in Jesus
Lois: JESUS SAID 2 reqmnts for SALVATION! John 3:5 "..Except a man is born of WATER and of SPIRIT, he CAN NOT enter the kingdom of God!" Mk 16:16 "..AND IS BAPTIZED, SHALL BE SAVED..." Read Acts 2:38!
TRUTH in HIS WORD!
LR- then you as the leader did the others a dis service. it was your responsibility to control the meeting when it got off track. you must be a church trained minister--- cant offend anyone and don't offend, contrary to Christ ways
Charlie: Plz provide Scripture re:Jesus said "Don't offend?" I overlooked? When blvrs disagree via deeper revelation (Peter & Paul re: circumcision in Galatians 2:11), Paul "withstood him face to face..."? Meaning?
I love "Bible Study" on H
norine re read t that was not what I said
"...cant offend anyone and don't offend, contrary to Christ ways."
Who said this?
Plz provide Scripture or NOT TRUE! Scripture says I Pet 3:15 "give answer" (FM WORD) whether "offensive" or not! Why so many "run!"Heb 4:12 TRUTH (WORD) "cuts!"
norine guess you need reading lesson. church trained ministers
Sorry Charlie, You're right! I DO! You were saying "As a church trained minister, one shouldn't be "religiously correct" by not offending & if so, not Christ-like!" Heh?
I AGREE! MOST on HP appear to be "religiously correct!
Charlie I don't lead a Bible Study at my church was just answering the ques. Norine I don't remember who wrote the book. It said only requirement was to believe in the Baptism. Made me unconformable so I stopped
Louis if a book other than the bibles and concordance are used it is NOT a bible study, but a teaching (actually indoctrination)
as far as the man that left, he understood the truth and got away from there, the right thing to do.
Still Bible Teaching, Bible Study sometimes not enough time to cover everything in an hour. Still can fill my notebook in no time at all. Just invested in voice recorder and can use that to distate to my Dragon Naturally Speaking
Lois: Why such little x given to Holy Spirit (Jesus)? 1hr? What if discussion reveals new rev of Scripture which req's add'l x? I Thess 5:19! Rushing thru WORD not Christ-like but allow Holy Spirit to "work" (reveal)! Jesus=40 days? Us=1hr?
That is just a time slot more like hour and half. That's why I like doing more on my own time as well.
Lois: Not "your time" but "GO" where Holy Spirit "leads" no matter the time!
Lois, pls look @ Scripture that tells us to live AFTER THE CROSS or AFTER "The Day of Pentecost!" Otherwise, Galatians 1:6-9!
SERIOUS! TRUTH=HIS WORD!
I do look at scrip and use it but limit to my hubs not on Q A forums. Most of my hubs being moved to another site. Holy Spirit guided me to
Lois: Always do as Holy Spirit "leads!" Sorry we didn't have more interaction re:Scripture! Consider Script re: Jesus is God for there is ONLY "1 SPIRIT" & baptizing & following as they did in Acts 2:42 or "After the Cross!"
Thank you. Norine. I am currently on blogjob with my user loiseryan if interested. Sometimes distractions get in the way of Holy Spirit still working on that
Lois: I will search for blogjob.com? Yes, ALWAYS follow Holy Spirit no matter how ridiculous it sounds to u (me 2 re:HP) and u will NEVER go wrong!
ALL quite here "watching" not interacting but MAYBE just 1 will "hear!"
I will still be on here too
LOis: Great! Hope to continue discussion! Enjoy talking to one with understanding! Very rare on HP but ALL will come to "TRUTH!" "After the Cross," or Galatians 1:6-9!
a real bible study HAS NO PREACHING. But I understand the hirelings in the churches have to show they are in control and make sure no one finds truths that they refuse to accept
LINK: U remind me of the Good Samaritan who "helped" man when "religious people" passed him up in Scripture (Lk 10:30)!
BELIEVERS: U see unblvr's perception of blvrs? Why don't "Christians" display JESUS? U blame them?
ALWAYS ask urself WWJD?
What did Jesus do? Say "Hold it (Scribes & Pharisees) until I finish." NO! He welcomed their questions to "prove" (w/HIS WORD) He was GOD!
Shouldn't we "prove" (II Tim 3:16) w/WORD our beliefs? So says Scripture & we "claim Christianity?"
Good answer! But I don't agree with you. Bible study is to ask questions and engaged in the coversation! To me the preacher was wrong
So the immature person who walked away because he/she felt offended was right for walking away? I used to do online Bible studies. I always asked for question to be held until the study was over. Re-read my answer.
Virgil: When 1 has problem w/"like minded blvr," follow Scripture & "go in private" w/(2 Pet 3:15) SCRIPTURE (Matt 18:15-17)!
EVERYTHING that "pertains to life" is in SCRIPTURE (II Pet 1:3)!
ALWAYS GIVE WORD & "YOU" WILL NEVER BE WRONG!
"..there is a correct way to address the problem." HERE IT IS! Matt 18:15-17!
EVERYTHING "that pertains to life" is IN SCRIPTURE (II Pet 1:3)!
Give WORD & "YOU" will NEVER be wrong (Num 23:19)!
The Word of God is never wrong but people sure do misquote or reference it when it has nothing to do with what they are saying. This is usually caused by a "religious spirit" perpetuating some denominational belief. Cut and paste religion is bad.
Rich: If 1 "cuts & paste" HIS WORD, IT IS WRITTEN (TRUTH) regardless of what u thk! "PROVE" "nothing to do w/what they r saying?" What "denominational belief?" I speak Christ & Him crucified! Where's problem?
The burden of proof is on you. You have ideas that are different, it is on you not others. You have proven many times to not have comprehension of what you are quoting. To that you just quote more out of context verses. You are a loose cannon.
Rich: And you a "taught" believer as "sheep" being lead to slaughter by organized "Religion" v "Studying" IN SPIRIT not looking @ WORD "literally!"
Until you "WORSHIP IN SPIRIT & IN TRUTH" no relationship w/GOD (Rm 8:8)! SO SAYS SCRIPTURE!
Right Link! If blvr perceives "right" they don't STUDY (Search the Scriptures) "to see if these thgs are so." (Acts 17:11) rather "run" when Scripture says "STAND" on your belief & "PROVE" w/WORD;otherwise, He'll be "ashamed of u!" Unblvr told T
Peter: Some are "called," some are "sent," but some just "got up and went!"