Once you have answered this question, take a look at Luke 22:31 & 32. Some distinguish belief from testimony and testimony from conversion. Simon Peter's path to conversion seems to have been a long and tortured one. Think of his path to conversion, and then examine your own. Where are you along your path? Some have taught that "a testimony is as ephemeral as a moonbeam," and that conversion is a daily effort and goal. What do you think?
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Zel: If "dirt-simple," tell me where those who believe should be today according to the "New Testament story?"
Eh? You mean people who believe now, or people who believed back then? Specificity is a virtue.
It seems posible to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and even testify to that belief, while not being converted to seek to keep God's commandments and seek to live even as Christ lived/ To my mind that is what it means to be "converted".
ZeL: "Specificity is a virtue?" Not in BELIEVING His Word for ALL is TRUE & "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today & forever" (Heb 13:8)! Please answer the Q.
DW: Being "converted" is being OPEN to NEW "REVELATION" of His Word (II Cor
Good and detailed commentary.
I am not sure what caused you to write " I do not care about your perceived horribleness." Perhaps you might clarify that for me.
Oh it is perceived that Peter was horrible in denying Christ 3 times. We often criticize ourselves horribly and think we are not worthy, in fact we are not really. But in spite of that we can have our own conversion.
Eric: "But in spite of that we can have our own conversion."
Explain how "We can have our own conversion?"
I don't know why people dump on Peter's character for the triple denial--dude was scared to death the Romans would go after him, so he tried to cover his ass. Yeah, it's the low moment of his character arc, but he moves past that point.
Zel: NOPE! Jesus (aka Holy Spirit) had left him as He leaves us today when we don't exercise our FAITH to the MAX! Why we "struggle" when not exercising our FAITH to MAX allowing "flesh" (sin) dominion!
And being Born Again, being born of the Holy Spirit after we receive the Spirit.
Marvelous. The concept of conversion vs. discipleship is very helpful. Makes me reflect on my wife's "lightening bolt" experience and my "from birth" experience. Someone said "we are not to convert but to adopt, going both ways".
Rich: Why always"hung up" on "the letter?" Def of "conversion"="to change" or "transformation!" I agree "We are to make disciples" but those who BELIEVE & have FAITH are "changed/transformed" or converted (same thg)!
1ST STEP="WAIT!"(Act 1:4)
I refer you to 1 Peter Chapter 4 and Peter's own instruction: "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."
And Acts Chapter 11:26 reads "And the disciples were called Christians first......
Demas: Do U know that the word "Christian" was FIRST used as a "derogatory" term to identify "followers of Christ?" Acts 11:26; 26:28; I Pet 4 all derogatory!
JESUS NEVER referred to His followers as "Christians!" Should we?