Christianity is documented in the history of the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament with the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. In order to sway opinion, some say, "I am a Christian and I don't believe Jesus is God," or "I am a Christian and I don't believe getting married is necessary in order to have sex," or any other position a person chooses to support. Some refer to it as the "social" gospel. Doesn't all of this confuse just what Christianity is?
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Thank you for your comments Lolita! I agree.
Well said Lolita!I couldn't agree more!The Bible is the authority of God.God will never disagree with Himself because God can't lie.Religions that profess to be Christian&like the BookofMormon contradict theBible doconfuse what Christianity is.
I would really like someone to point out, other than parable where Christ claims he "is" the same as God. Whoever believes in me believes in the father does not make claim of being God. This determination of Blasphemy must have a root in Bible.
John 10:30 I and the Father are one."
John 17:21 I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one--as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me. Important to study to defend
Hi Christin, maybe I didn't explain "hijack" We all have free will and if you choose to not associate with Christians, that is your right. Going to church does not make one a Christian. I went for 27 yrs & my dad was a pastor. I wasn't a Chri
Christin,it appears the only one"insinuating that thosewho don't believe like u are victimizing u"IS YOU.Diane simply asked a question,Do people who pretend to be Christians but aren't confuse just what Christianity is?U are the childish 1.
No, words like "hijack" are inflammatory, no one is "hijacking" anyone's belief system for simply stating opinions. That is not "hijacking". I don't care what you think of me TSAD
I kind of have to agree that "hijacking" is a bad use of the term. Who died in the 9/11 hijackings? If it is not meant that way, then that really does not matter does it. It is word association. Discernment is required of Christians.
You start off attacking Diane by misstating her question then attributing motives to your mistatement. Hijacking is appropriate to her Q and having turned your back on Jesus Christ you simply want to denigrate her because she is a Christian.
I used "hijack" because yesterday I read an article about the 5 types of evangelicals. Some of the difference was generational and interpretation. The last category was evangelicals who don't go to church, read the Bible, etc. I don't see the point
Christin gets to act like that. A Christian does not.
Thank you T! You get me!
I'm sorry. I have no disrespect for Diane, I wasn't "attacking" her, but vehemently disagreeing with the notion that disagreement is "hijacking". We all have brains and free will, others opinions shouldn't have power over your faith if it's strong.
Christin, I was not talking about having a disagreement with anyone. I was talking about the characteristics of groups and self affiliation with a group when the characteristics are not there. If you seen my post, I am never combative.
I suggest the question of what Christianity "is," is greatly confused amongst those professing Christianity. Is it a collection of people claiming to be morally superior? Yet are in reality way inferior?
I think it's kind of silly to be so concerned with how other people choose to embrace their faith. Life is a (personal) journey! Exactly this!
Christin, how would you feel if someone paraphrased one of your Hubs and published it. What if they change some of the information to conflict within itself? What if they then called you a fraud?
G. Diane, No one I have heard of is re-writing the bible!
People have always "cherry picked" to verses of the bible. It's open to interpretation so much so that there are several Christian denominations! Don't worry about what others think..
There are definitely people rewriting the Bible. There was a group that felt that God was a woman. A version of the BIble was written changing "He" to "She." JR's came out with the New World Bible. They change enough words for their narrative.
You do realize the Jewish spelling of Yahweh is spelled with 2 "male" letters and 2 "female" letters, right? So God is technically equally male and female, so if you don't like the other bible calling God "she," why keep the one that says "he"?
And you do realise that the multiple translations, and versions, have 're-written' the Bible. Some of the newer versions have words that don't have an Arahmaic, Ancient Greek or Hebrew equivalent, so modern social interpretations have entered.
If you will go to biblestudytools.com, you will see that multiple versions are provided for side by side comparison. I have not observed, or heard anyone state a concern, that the versions were not congruent. You can also purchase a parallel Bible
Thank you for your comments Aime. My point is that there are characteristics that fit labels. We observe people and make assumptions about what they are by their behavior. The question is "What is a Christian?"
It isn't that there can be different interpretations,the problem is when it can be shown implicitly that they are literally false &those people continue in error to profess to have truth.These are cults.of Christianity& do confuse people.
I love it Efficient. I guess the nearest comparison I can make is Muslims trying to disassociate themselves with ISIS. We know the majority of Muslims don't want to kill people. Media doesn't spend a lot of time promoting them.
If we really study the scripture properly and read between the lines, we realized Christ is the bad guy/demon pretending to be the good guy/god and the anti christ is the real good guy/god, which christ accuse to be the bad guy/demon.
Peter can you give us an example, citing the New Testament Bible passage? Thank you!
Ok Peter I have that page up. We are actually doing 40 Days of Revelation at Church. So what makes it seem like Christ is the antichrist. Rev. is divided into section. The first part is where He is speaking to the 7 churches. no room.
Forget what they teach in the church and read the whole page, make sure u read between the lines. Be active and critical of the passage, not passive, in your reading and you will find the answer, yourself.
Peter, reading between the lines is done based on prior knowledge and frame of reference. Since I have studied this information for over 30 years it would be impossible for me to see it your way unless you tell me what you are thinking.
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Thank you Lawrence. Someone once said, "Madeline Murray O'Hare didn't take prayer out of schools. Christians did." You answer reminds me of that statement. We've got to reclaim it Lawrence.
We need to be very careful with all of this. It's vital to keep church & State separate! Think about it....You want your kids taught about ISLAM? That would be the day I yank my kids from school!!
Paula, that's already starting to happen in some places.
Loli... Yes &I can't even bear to know this. Have no kids in school of course, but I have a whole tribe of grandchildren! Luckily, knowing my sons, they'd act swiftly and powerfully. This is what I mean. We CAN'T let that happen!
No, we can't.
Ladies, having worked in inner city schools for the past 20 years, I see many, many kids that need hope and spiritual grounding. Their parents are absentee, dead or horrible parents for a variety of reasons. I direct them to a church on the block.
Diane....Bless your heart. That's where you should have directed them. Like I said, there's CHURCH & then there's State. We need them separate to maintain CHOICE. Who wants their kids exposed to a Radical Extremist religion?
Innercity schools are much more complex than famlies with working mom/dad and 2.4 kids. Everything they hear on media is sex, violence and drugs. Often there is no convenient church down the street. When they COME to me, I offer what I have.
I've no problem with that. All I want is for us to 'live out' Jesus teaching. Islam, Buddhim, Hinduism are all taught in the UK but not Christianity! When we do 99% of the problems on earth will disappear.
Expose them to 'radical' Christian Love
Eric, I guess I'm horrible at writing these questions. I tried to give a couple of examples to explain. I know there are many interpretations however, if a person doesn't believe in Jesus Christ, how can he be a Christian. I don't attack anyone ev
You used a perfect example and you are good at writing the questions to stir interest and dialogue. I applaud you for that. Your example 1 was Jesus not being God. That is only a trinity point of view. Jesus is son of God is more in line for many.
Eric, I don't know any Christian denominations that refute the Trinity. As a matter of fact, denial of the Trinity is considered to be evidence of a cult.
Diane, how many times is Trinity mentioned in the Bible? Did Jesus ever use the term or one that means the same? Trinity is a religion made construct. I follow it in my Apostles Creed and in the Nicene Creed. But I do not follow it because Jesus did.
It is not stated as "trinity"; however, there are passage that state the co-existence of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. One notable: after Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit flew over and the Father said this is my Son in whom I am well...
Well said Diane, showing there are three. God calls Jesus his son and that he is well pleased with him. Would a God say that of himself? You make the case against the Trinity, not for it. It is not Biblical it is man made. Again, I believe in it.
No I don't Eric. Do you remember Jesus saying, "You have seen me, you have seen the Father." Also, Scriptures point to the Holy Spirit and Jesus participating in creation. Thomas said, "My Lord and My God" when he touched Jesus' wounds. Analyses..
Well done Diane. So many take what you say and create a Trinity. Others have other explanation. A man back then sent his son to negotiate, he would say "if you see my son you see me" it means authority - not really the dad.
Eric, I went to Catholic elementary school = the Trinity was described as a divine mystery.
1 Cor 13:12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known. Faith
Thank you for your in depth response Paula. You are a great writer and a critical thinker! I think "audience" is the issue here. I selected my category to get responses from1) Christians 2) who read the Bible, 3) pray, 4) fellowship (no space)
This happens often to other hubbers. You are always allowed to limit/control WHO you wish to answer. B-4 UR Q. simply say: Christians Only pls reply. Or whatever the topic is...for instance, Parents Only, etc.
Paula, I thought I read something about that somewhere but I would not want to be unkind to anyone. I just like peaceful discussions, exchanging ideas and thoughts with no browbeating. I would only bar someone after they are rude like, uh, uh, uh..
Diane, you are a good question asker. A good woman. And you should feel just fine editing. It is your question. If you deleted my comments I would still hold you in esteem.
No way would I delete your comments Eric. It's a discussion. We respected each other and had differing views. God knows our hearts.
Paula,I don't think the question is aimed at what a strong Christian believes. The point of the Q&A is,or if it isn't should be,what the unbeliever believes about Christianity.Cults of Christianity( do mislead everyone about true Christianity
Exactly T.. Non-belvrs should NOT listen to man. All that's needed is 4 them to reach up to take God's hand. Christianity IS Jesus Christ. When He's in our heart, what man can hijack Him? None of that matters. Christ knows His own as they know Him.
Thank you Paula. Yes, T! The article I read on the 5 types of evangelicals did not appear to be written by a Christian but an observer who probably talked to people who SAID they are evangelicals and then talked about personal beliefs.
Diane...As the OP of Q&A or forum....One is NOT "being unkind" by limiting whom they want to respond. It's actually practical & lessens the chaos that occurs. Utililize the few rights we have here at HP.
Thank you Paula! i have some heavy things I want to write about and I think HP is not the place. I don't want to have to delete stuff constantly. I write from experience. If that is not the experience of others, the venom flows! Thanks again!
Didn't JESUS chg the world's thinking re:"religion?" What if they would have "deleted" HIS WORD?
It's as Paula says, "What I blv is what I blv," but it's a Christian's job 2 "teach!"
"GOD is no respecter of persons" (Acts 10:34), why r u?
I agree with you Dellea. It is impossible to speak to a non-Christian when professed Christians are coming out of left field. Going to church does not make one a Christian anymore than sitting in a garage makes one a car. Thank you!
Peter, God knew that we would never be able to keep the Mosaic law that required blood sacrifice. That's why Jesus came to be the blood sacrifice for all who accepted the gift. New Testament is fulfillment of that prophecy.
Peter. That same book also says "Don't hold a grudge against your kin but love your neighbor as yourself (Book of Leviticus chpater 18" If we did that almost all those issues would disappear!