It's said that the name Jesus Christ is taken out of the NIV Bible many times.
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Tom your correct. It seems people that read the Bible should use the Original King James Bible, because every "so called" newer version deletes or replaces words and verses. Deuteronomy 23:17 & 1 Kings 14:24 the word "Sodomite" deleted.
But Ann, that is part of the rabbit hole you go down. Are you certain that King James did not add if from the Latin Vulgate.I just read from a direct translation from the Latin Vulgate for Holy See (1582) and it does not have sodomite in it.
Eric, I'm concerned about the KJV Bible staying the same, since it is the first English translation after the Hebrew version, and was hoping other newer versions would've not deleted or replaced words for the editor's/publisher's own agenda.
In order for them to be copyrighted they had to, just had to, make significant changes from the KJV, They even have to show the changes. They are derivative works. Probably more important are the books left out like Wisdom.
Eric I know the point your making. Although the word of God shouldn't be "changed" unless it's being changed for language translation. The word of God is suppose to change people, NOT people changing the word of God.
The Geneva Bible was the first English bible published in 1560, 51 years before the KJV. The king didn't like the Geneva so he headed up his own translation with a list of rules that had to be followed.
Just going on the removal of sodomite - if your Bible has the word 'homosexual' in it (partic in Romans + Cor.) it's been mistranslated from the ancient language which did not have such a word - it was invented in the ?1900s.
There is only 1 bible phrase I agree with [judge not shall ye be judged] ironically, historical evidence suggest, its Rome's Emperor who really said this, while visiting Israel. But Christian don't follow this bible teaching anyway.
...and doesn't it work right into today's world views which of course we know are AOK by God, right?
The question is only sad because the publisher and editor of the NIV Bible have deleted many verses from it.
Deleted bible verses? Good! Deuteronomy17:12[The man who acts presumptuously by not obeying the priest, that man shall die.] Real bible is evil as ISIS. NIV is blessing from the real god, the almighty antichrist protecting us from the evil Christ!!!
peter- you should not comment on things you do not comprehend. that was under the old testament for the jews only and is no longer in effect,
Christianity is for everyone and is based on love and forgiveness not punishment. you bible basher
Celafoe - can I ask why then are OT verses used by many to condemn gays? And always by Christians - never Jews. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to start anything.
Eric - translation through three languages to get to English = easily mistranslated.
It is interesting, though, there are many who dislike or disapprove of homosexuality, but fewer acts in such disrespectful manner because of it, even fewer start discriminate them, like Christianity does, obviously Christ have less wisdom then human
Jacqui- two reasons, they do not understand that the old testament was fulfilled and not in effect. they listen to their hireling pastors who do not teach the truth so they can collect tithes that were also done away with at the cross
Eric, great response to this question, and I am going to have to agree with what you are saying. The ancient languages in which the Bible was first written is very difficult to get an exact translation today. Again great post I enjoyed reading it.
charlie: Yet, how many people die in the Inquisition, during Christianity era, how many educated was killed for contradicting the bible? How many women were been accused of witchcraft and kill?
Celafoe - thank you for that.
Speaking about bible, this seem like an interesting film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_FFNL_jPHE
Eric I am sorry to tell you that you are a love child & as much as I love you I cant agree with all your love logic. God told us to study to be approved & He wants us learning & growing in word continually & He is pretty explicit abo
I would not call any of the translations out there "terrible", but there are some that I think are more academic, others are more for emotions, and others are great for beginners.
Charlie what would you suggest for an interlinear Bible? I would actually prefer an actual book, not one online.
Prove that its better if we add or take away certain words [“If your brother,, or your son or your daughter or the wife or your friend saying, ‘Let us go and serve other god' You shall stone him to death](Deuteronomy 13:6-10 )
Peter, you have proven nothing to me, but as a Christian I will pray that you find what you are looking for. However, I respect everyone choices and views, and because of that I am not going to judge or disagree with your belief.
Sorry to bursting ur bubble's Rev, but, I say it is better to follow the antichrist, as a rev, no need for me to quote bible passage on antichrist with u, without antichrist it would still be dark ages, for age of enlightment is an antichrist itself.
Yeah... gonna have to ask you to explain the whole, "The age of enlightenment is an antichrist itself"??? Sorry, I believe all things are done by the sovereignty of God. But would love to chat about it.
Bible teach all that contradict bible, is evil&lie, yet, bible teach lies (eg it teach earth is only 5000 years old) Age of enligtment allow seeking of truth, by declaring independent from church, thus a blessing from antichrist, who is the true
Ok, so the general thought is if we take the Bible literal there are inconsistencies. I can agree to that. I would also ask, if we can't take anything (as truth) from the Bible, then where does the notion of the antichrist come from?
Rev. Akins, great post and I admire the fact that you have studied the original languages . I feel that as Christians the Bible teaches us we should stand firm in our faith even when we are facing death. If we do this our reward is great.
John 4:1-3 [Beloved, do not believe every spirit, test to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is the spirit of the antichrist] Sound like when Communist China say contradict Mao=Antimao=evil, lie.
So the Bible is used to prove we cannot trust the Bible? I think I will stick with my philosophy, it follows love and God's grace in our lives. I hope your philosophy helps you as well.
ok, agree to disagree
Very interesting. This whole bible version thing is a problem that Christians must pay attention to. The only possible resolution is to read several.
The availability of on line digital translations is Huge. Each translation is at the mercy of the funder of the effort. The Puritans brought the Geneva with them, the KJV was considered the "State" bible.
I hadn't thought about that. For sure the KJV was written as a protestant effort to smite the church and it was imposed on those under King James. That is kind of important to consider. A translation made of anger.
Prove that Christ is no better then ISIS Chronicles 15:12-13
[And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death]
Well Peter we will see on Judgment Day
ISIS is not God, they do not have the rights that He does and He loves us all and if any are put under His judgement we can be sure it is for the good of all and I agree with Lois. We will understand it one day and our faith teaches us that.
See how this is. We are caught in a world of versions that deviate. We have got to create a base line for interpretation. That interpretation must be love. Jesus commands it. All Bibles by fact must be different. We are required to use discernment.
Agreed Jesus commands love, but He also commands not to go against the commandments, which are all throughout the Bible.
Prove its better to use a bible edited by gov or better abandon bible all together "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
Who cares, the real bible is F***ed up (Deuteronomy 17:12)
[The man who acts presumptuously by not obeying the priest who stands to minister there before the Lord your God, or the judge, that man shall die.] WTF!!! bible=evil & as bad as ISIS
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