believe we ARE A SOUL/Spirit at our basic core/nature, within a physical bodily form?
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Very good grasshopper. Now all you need to do is stop steteotyping religion as right wing Christian and see that many other religions essentially believe what you do.
I dont stereotype. I fight against religious harmful dogma. I dont care if you worship whatever god you like, but i will fight for my rights as a woman, as a human being, and as a defender against religious indoctrination in children.
Did I miss something or did someone just say the government should tell me what I should raise my child believing in. I am amazed. Austinstar is going to decide what I teach my children and she does not even have any.
As usual, you jump to erroneous conclusions. I am not the government, and i do have children. I am not trying to tell you how to raise your children, i am trying to convince you that what you are doing is brainwashing. Let them decide what to believe
Right and what do you want a five year old to be taught?
It doesn't matter what i want. You are supposed to be the responsible parent and keep you child from harm.
That is why it is said that god is everywhere and in everything. Quantum physics is a complex subject but we know now that everything is made up of energy and please check out quantum double slit experiment so that you come into terms with reality.
That's a very interesting way of looking at things. When I was researching a hub on the existence of God I found this was the view of many Ancient thinkers like Marcus Aurelius.
Quite a deep & enlightening belief, RJ. Yes, the term "essence" is the ideal one to describe the "soul."
Abhim...Thank you for your fascinating response. The information of the Hanuman Chalisa (prayer) is positively stunning. Simply amazing & gives us much to realize. Peace, Paula
Thanks Paula and there is much more that I can say but I think I made my point. If there is any scientist or scientific mind please answer my question. Thanks
Thanks for the awesome (personal) comment GF! Your view is very deep and meaningful. One that I'm sure can bring you comfort at times. Hugs!
No...No LOL from me. Your comment reflects a lovely, viable concept. Thank you much, GF.
Well, thank you, Paula. What a great gal you are.
I think that is a beautiful way of putting it, Phyllis. The only thing I would change is to say that "the human is a soul that occupies a body" because our awareness resides in the soul.
Well, thank you MizB. I will not change it though.
Tim....Thanks so much 4 UR interesting & lengthy comment. I appreciate UR enthusiasm 4 my question. UR attitude is healthy & sensible. We can only learn by seeking w/ an open mind. Life poses much for us to understand!
You are welcome while I thank you for reading. I sought being brief as I can wander all day pondering and researching the topic you presented us with. Again, thank you for that!!
Thank you for your comment, Lawrence. I appreciate your visit & inspired input. Have a great week-end.
Val. Generous of U 2 share so much of UR theories w/ our readers. Most of this is a brand new concept to many who do not delve & search as U have 4 yrs. Don't worry, I don't mind mild disagreement, but I will not allow people to attack negatively
interesting ego. The ego just bleeds through in this. The "I haves" are just remarkable. "follow me because in my 71 year life I have answers" just is overwhelming. What a cauldron of self manifested truths. Good luck with your perfection without God
Paula - I forgot to say that our health is in a direct proportion with our closeness or deviation from our "soul". And our ego is the culprit behind such deviations. A syllogism : ergo - our bad health is result of ego. Never seen a doc in 8 years.
Intresting theory but I will stick with god rather than aliens or anything else. Why? It sounds the most reasonable one and the most simple one too ( god). The energy that converted into the universe must have been around before and that is god.
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You sound like my daddy. However you haven't dug deep enough. There is now scientific evidence enough to get scientists to realize that there is an energy expulsion of some kind after the body dies. They've measured it at 9 ounces. Or is it 9 grams?
That is true, MizB. I believe it is 9 ounces. They weighed the some people before and after death and there was definitely less weight after.
That 9 ounces thing is a myth. It has never been duplicated by another medical examiner or scientist. There may be some fluid loss after death which could account for the discrepancy.
My mistake, Lela, sorry. The soul does not weigh 9 ounces, it weighs exactly 1/3000 of an ounce. Physicist Dr. Elke Fisher points out that scientists were careful to account for all weight differences including air leaving lungs.
Ladies:Thanks 4 the help!~
"getit" U do not believe soul/spirit exists...can U tell me how U describe OR what name U might give to the very "essence" of we humans?(Providing U accept there is essence to ALL living things.) Thank U.
Please let me know the ref link. And where the study is that verifies that conclusion. Thanks!
Lela, if no one gets back to U, maybe try to google Dr. Elke Fisher, who Phyllis mentioned. (?)
I looked into it. Very interesting. I don't know about Dr. Elke Fisher but there are enough studies that show the loss of around 1/2 ounce at time of death. Amazing. I hope someone soon does another study with our newer technology.
There are some current studies being done in the field of noetics. I will check into what is current and get back to the thread.
Paula, What u are describing is not evidence of a soul or spirit. We know that consciousness is a function of the brain. All organism have this function. So would a grasshopper also have a soul? A housefly?
BTW, that "scientific" study is BUNK!
getit, I did not "describe" anything. I asked U 2 pls describe or explain the "essence " of a human. I also did not mention "consciousness," which I'm aware is a state of the brain...U used this term. It's OK if U prefer not to address my question.
Getitrite, No these studies show that other animals did not lose the weight. Heavy stuff. Very interest. Not enough evidence for a fact but plenty for a theory.
Lela, here is a link I found. I just googled 'study of weight of soul'. and found
Ok, Snopes agrees that the study was done, but the results were inconclusive - http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp Think about having to put a dying patient on a scale! over and over again. The results are as bizarre as the testing method.
Nowadays they could put them in a bed with a scale built in. I hope some doctors with nothing better to do, do it.
I would hope that they not experiment with dead and dying people, certainly not without permission. Either you have faith that a soul exists, or you don't. What do you gain by experimenting on people on their death bed?
I would volunteer. I already am donating my organs (as if anyone would want them)
Eric.Since U mention organ donation..Many in OUR age bracket have chosen 2 B BODY Donors (To Medical Teaching Colleges & Univer) I did this long ago.Much 2 B considered but I just wanted to mention it to U. Saves $$ on funerals, burials, etc.
What they cannot use for organs is donated to the University of Arizona College of Medicine. They are the ones who ran the trials that saved me in stage four lymphoma. What a waste is burial.
The expense is ludicrous..falls on our family..Y give up any part of what we leave them? Running out of grave space anyway. In lg cities they're piling them on top of each other.Lovely thoughts, eh?? Congrats on beating lymphoma! How many yrs?
20 years, but now it is back. Such is life. I am a "downwinder". Some of us kids were radiated by fallout from atomic bomb testing. Interesting stuff. Kind of hard to live with though ;-)
Treatment must be more advanced NOW, Yes? R U having to go thru all of that again? 20 years is EXCELLENT term of remission! Gosh U've researched the "downwind" theory? Interesting but an unacceptable mistake by man.
I do not think that soul could have a weight as it is not something physical.
Michael, yours is a really deep & inspiring reply. Thank you so much. I admire your sincerity & generosity in sharing your innermost beliefs. I am impressed with the variety of responses I've received. Interesting!
What an interesting statement of faith. Thank you for sharing that.
Michael-Milec you are awesome
Very well-said and good truths to live by, Michael.
To your unadulterated question Paula, it was easy for me to answer along the mind of Him who has revealed publicly of His original man's design creating spirit and soul and providing the body for human while here on the earth..
Eric, your comment is encouraging me to speak up my faith boldly. SPARKLEA, thank you for acknowledging with me the God's awesomeness . PHYLLIS D.B. Your bold message to me is to go on and live theTruth we know , not disappointing those who believ
Eric I appreciate your thoughtful contribution! I enjoy learning varied concepts of most all topics.
Eric, I think they are fascinated that their awareness has come back into the body. A few have claimed to have seen angels, but most people are changed by the experience, some drastically.
Eric i agree with MizBejabbers that many are changed by NDE experiences. i also agree with you that one thing you will always find is love. Love is the key to everything and I believe God uses Love in magnificent and miraculous ways.