Why do most who profess Christianity believe the rapture LIE instead of scriptur

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   celafoeposted 8 years ago

   Why do most who profess Christianity believe the rapture LIE instead of scripture?
   
   The scriptures say "as it was in the day of Noah,  when the flood came and took away the  UNbelievers"   and there are a great many scriptures proving that the believers are to inherit the earth and not going anywhere.   Also the examples in scripture that God always keeps His people THROUGH THE TIME OF TROUBLE AND never REMOVES THEM

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   LoliHeyposted 8 years ago

   I personally do not believe in the rapture.  If anything, God may rapture his people at the end of the Tribulation, right before He lays waste to the planet.  But the idea of Christians just disappearing into thin air is pretty stupid, and I have not found any piece of scripture that supports that.  If anyone knows, please let me know so I can look it up.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I just have a short question on this. Does it make a difference regarding how I am to live my life here on earth? I am serious. Because if it does then I care deeply, if not then.....

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      e-  makes a big difference in the end when you are expecting to get away from the tribulation and are still here to go thru  many will be confused and think God lied to them, but the liars are the apostate preachers of the doctrine of men

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you

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      Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If one is living a delusion or a lie I would think it should make a big difference. What is the lie/delusion to avoid the he said she said? Study, study, study.

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   chevyssbowtieposted 8 years ago

   But in the catching away of the Church He actually does remove us.
   And what do you do with scriptures like 1 Thess. 4:16-18 and 1 Cor.15:?

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      if you read Gen 1:6  you will see heaven is from the earth surface to the waters above.  1 Cor does not say anything about leaving'.  for complete
      study see 
      http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy … oing-WHERE

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      chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There are 3 heavens, atmosphere, space & the third heaven Paul spoke of.
      1 Cor. 15 talks about us being changed in the twinkling of an eye, since flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, He changes us when were caught up to meet Him.

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      scriptures NEVER contradict themselves  for the lie to be truth it contradicts many scriptures,    " 3rd heaven"is mistranslation  it actually says "paradise".  there is only one heaven.   the transformation is AFTER the judgement.. you are deceived

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      chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Mistranslation huh, so you are the authority on the Word? You should have been the one doing the translating because God was wrong when He was guiding the translators.

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      no God was not wrong.   That translation is from the kjv  and God had nothing to do with it.   get an interlinear  so you see what the words really mean.      you clearly are parroting what you have been taught and have not studied in detail yourself

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      chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Your interlinear is what is distorting your view, you read to much into the Word and when it dont work you claim "mistranslation". It is you sir that is deceived. I have studied the book, as it is written, no outside influences & rapture is in th

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      it is not in the scriptures, it is only taught by people that  cannot correctly interpret it.    most generally kj only folk.   kjv is the kings personal bible, written so as not to offend him as the Geneva bible (a better translation) did

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      chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      King James was not offended by the Word, he disapproved of Geneva Bible because of the added marginal notes and its Calvinistic leanings.

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      cbt-  how can you believe Matt 24:37-40  Luke 17:26-28  means the righteous will be removed when it clearly shows the un-righteous will be removed and there are so many verses showing the righteous inherit the earth

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       chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I dont believe Mt 24, Lk 17 is talking about the rapture only the 2nd coming.

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       Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       1Th 4:15  For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
       
       There is only one return not two returns. The rapture theory implies 2.

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       Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Good luck with that man made thought.

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       celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       cbt-  its clear you have no desire for the truth.   you have been deceived and now that you have received the strong dilusion  from God are unable to see truth.   i will waste no more time on you.

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   Michael-Milecposted 8 years ago

   There wasn't any 'christianity' theory when Chris Jesus said "If anyone loves me he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make our home with him." My main concern / duty is to  know His word- love in action - and live it so that the Spirit/God within me is uninterruptedly "IN their home with me ". ( Did anyone say ' the rapturer?)

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   Rich kelleyposted 8 years ago

   2Thessalonians 2:11-12  Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
   
   It is unrighteousness to not believe God will not protect and provide for you. It is unrighteous to deceive others and come up with some man made plan. The "therefore" is because they refuse to love the truth and want to believe a lie and the wicked deception that is coming and is now here. No one wants to believe they don't have the truth and are living a lie. The "as it was in the day's of Noah" is ignored. The protection of God's people in Egypt as God worked through Moses is ignored. They have no faith to believe that God will actually protect and be with them through the bad times.
   
   We will meet Him in the air is not a rapture away to heaven while those left on the earth are put through tribulation. If I know you are coming to my house to visit me I will come out to "meet you in the driveway" and then we will come into the house which was the original destination for your coming to see me. You were not coming to meet me in the drive way then take me away to some place that a bunch of other people have made up. We will meet Him in the air because first the dead in Christ then those alive will be taken up by His angels to meet Him in the air. We will be transformed to do all of this, then we return to the earth our home that God made us from. We are made from the earth and that is where we will be.
   
   Today it is almost best to find out what the majority believe and then do or believe the opposite. Many believe the lie and none of them are chosen. Many claim serving Him that He never knew. Few shall make it. Going with the crowd concerning matters of the Kingdom of God clearly will place you on the unrighteous end of the stick.

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      chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Good analogy, if we're going to heaven Jesus comes out in the driveway (air) to meet us and then we go into His house (Heaven).

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      Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Typical of Pharisee's/Pastors. Take something that is written and add to it with distorted oral arguments. That is not what I said or implied, but thanks for the perfect example of the pharisee's described in scripture.

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      thanks Rich, for an excellent response

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      chevyssbowtieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus said "in my Fathers house are many mansions, I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am you may be also",He ascended into Heaven, The Lord Himself descends from heaven, were caught up to meet Him and so shall we ever be with the Lord

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      Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus will COME again to receive us, to accept us because we have been faithful till the end. We have been doers of His word. We have ran the race. He will come quickly but not to leave again, there will be heaven on earth. His will be done on EARTH

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Rich this is very interesting in it's simplicity.

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      rich-  we are not going anywhere.   the air only goes to a few thousand feet.   i live in the air and that is where He will meet me.   We NEVER leave the earth, the transformation takes place here.  in an instant, in His time

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      Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Charlie
      We are going up, not far but up to at least the clouds.
      1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught UP together with them in the CLOUDS to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

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