The scriptures say "as it was in the day of Noah, when the flood came and took away the UNbelievers" and there are a great many scriptures proving that the believers are to inherit the earth and not going anywhere. Also the examples in scripture that God always keeps His people THROUGH THE TIME OF TROUBLE AND never REMOVES THEM
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Good analogy, if we're going to heaven Jesus comes out in the driveway (air) to meet us and then we go into His house (Heaven).
Typical of Pharisee's/Pastors. Take something that is written and add to it with distorted oral arguments. That is not what I said or implied, but thanks for the perfect example of the pharisee's described in scripture.
thanks Rich, for an excellent response
Jesus said "in my Fathers house are many mansions, I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am you may be also",He ascended into Heaven, The Lord Himself descends from heaven, were caught up to meet Him and so shall we ever be with the Lord
Jesus will COME again to receive us, to accept us because we have been faithful till the end. We have been doers of His word. We have ran the race. He will come quickly but not to leave again, there will be heaven on earth. His will be done on EARTH
Rich this is very interesting in it's simplicity.
rich- we are not going anywhere. the air only goes to a few thousand feet. i live in the air and that is where He will meet me. We NEVER leave the earth, the transformation takes place here. in an instant, in His time
We are going up, not far but up to at least the clouds.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught UP together with them in the CLOUDS to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
if you read Gen 1:6 you will see heaven is from the earth surface to the waters above. 1 Cor does not say anything about leaving'. for complete
There are 3 heavens, atmosphere, space & the third heaven Paul spoke of.
1 Cor. 15 talks about us being changed in the twinkling of an eye, since flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, He changes us when were caught up to meet Him.
scriptures NEVER contradict themselves for the lie to be truth it contradicts many scriptures, " 3rd heaven"is mistranslation it actually says "paradise". there is only one heaven. the transformation is AFTER the judgement.. you are deceived
Mistranslation huh, so you are the authority on the Word? You should have been the one doing the translating because God was wrong when He was guiding the translators.
no God was not wrong. That translation is from the kjv and God had nothing to do with it. get an interlinear so you see what the words really mean. you clearly are parroting what you have been taught and have not studied in detail yourself
Your interlinear is what is distorting your view, you read to much into the Word and when it dont work you claim "mistranslation". It is you sir that is deceived. I have studied the book, as it is written, no outside influences & rapture is in th
it is not in the scriptures, it is only taught by people that cannot correctly interpret it. most generally kj only folk. kjv is the kings personal bible, written so as not to offend him as the Geneva bible (a better translation) did
King James was not offended by the Word, he disapproved of Geneva Bible because of the added marginal notes and its Calvinistic leanings.
cbt- how can you believe Matt 24:37-40 Luke 17:26-28 means the righteous will be removed when it clearly shows the un-righteous will be removed and there are so many verses showing the righteous inherit the earth
I dont believe Mt 24, Lk 17 is talking about the rapture only the 2nd coming.
1Th 4:15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
There is only one return not two returns. The rapture theory implies 2.
Good luck with that man made thought.
cbt- its clear you have no desire for the truth. you have been deceived and now that you have received the strong dilusion from God are unable to see truth. i will waste no more time on you.
I just have a short question on this. Does it make a difference regarding how I am to live my life here on earth? I am serious. Because if it does then I care deeply, if not then.....
e- makes a big difference in the end when you are expecting to get away from the tribulation and are still here to go thru many will be confused and think God lied to them, but the liars are the apostate preachers of the doctrine of men
If one is living a delusion or a lie I would think it should make a big difference. What is the lie/delusion to avoid the he said she said? Study, study, study.