It seems that no matter how politely one tries to avoid the topic of ‘God’ these days, there are those who will insist on bringing it up. Many atheists, myself included, find religious an extremely offensive and contentious topic and don’t want to speak about it. How does one get a ‘believer’ to drop the topic and never talk about it again – without causing offence?
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That's exactly what has happened. Yesterday was the end of yet another friendship. And I refuse point black to ever go near my brother-in-law again. Even my sister saw over a period of two months that it was him, not me.
If people refuse to respect you for your beliefs, simply.......DITCH them. They are toxic people period!
YOU: The Sky Is Falling!
ME: But u have no evidence
YOU: Yes i do...this piece of sky fell on me.
ME: Please stop!
Thank you for selecting my answers.
Unfortunately, family breakups are common among Christians and their family, especially - because they are TERRIFIED that you are going to hell; and they are ORDERED to convert you or they somehow fail, themselves. My mom doesn't talk to me, either.
Christ commanded Christians to go out and witness (convert) others to Christianity. So atheists do NOT want to talk about religion, and Christians insist. It's not about whether one can talk nicely; it's that most atheists don't want to discuss it.
Clearly then, the Atheist just says "I DONOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT GOD". Problem solved. I have been told this many times, even from close friends. Never been a problem or any offence caused! Unless there is some other issue at play here...
And as I pointed out, there is a percentage of Christians that when you say you don't want to talk about it, will persist. That is quite clearly what my OP says. You're talking about reasonable people; I am talking about fanatics.
It's possible to unfollow a fb friend without unfriending them. Check the little drop down box and you should see it. They can still see you, and can send you dm. But you don't have to see their every post.
Thanks - I'll check that out.
Dear, I think you may have a session of discussion with her and offer her to be sensible and tolerant during discussion. Let the things take their course one way or the other. But after wards, we continue our friendship and avoid such discussions.
This is awesome!
Why on earth would I do that? The subject bores me to tears. I have no interest in discussing it. We've got global warming, massive inequality, terrorism, and more. Those are real things. Why on earth would I speak of imaginary gods?
I'm 65. This is the first time I have done so. Just had someone badger me and insult me for two weeks because my atheism was an afront to her despite my being polite - until I had a gutful. Then I said goodbye.
There is a man called Moses that God called to take the children of Israel out of Egypt. When they were about to enter the promised land, God showed Moses the promised land, but told him, he would not enter it. Why?
You're absolutely correct - for the most part. I disagree only on the fact that if someone mentions god, that they are out to deliver scalps. There are exceptions. However it does mean they believe in mystical pie in the sky. Not my kind of person.
Christian fanatics being just as dangerous in their way as Muslim ones. - Anyway
And that is what I was taught - that religion is a private affair and it is never brought up in public. The purpose of manners is to avoid insulting or hurting someone else. Trying to convert other people is bad manners and leads to fights.
Hi Tessa, you said we either shut up and get insulted or speak up and lose friends". Yet also said "militant atheism... .Now we either shut up and get insulted or speak up and lose friends. There's a victim, & an aggressor, both of them describe
Wow! Marie. You certainly have a black and white view of life. In case you hadn't noticed, we have only 250 characters so one assumes that people can read between the lines.
Funny you should say that. That was what I thought they were supposed to do. Drop the subject. They don't. They seem to think it's an invitation to debate it. Thank you for confirming that.
4 of 93 hubs about atheism/agnosticism/religion over the course of a year and 3 related questions within the past 3 months = obsessed.
She totally tops your harassing of pastors roob...
I don't follow your logic. If an overwhelming majority of people are Christian, there would be an assumption that you are Christian (so they wouldn't proselytize). So unless you bring it up, I can't imagine it is a constant topic for conversation.
Carrie, are you stupid or something?
1.: Hi, how are you?
1. The Lord is good. He made it rain today, just when we needed rain.
2. The Lord had nothing to do with it.
3. The Lord is in charge of all things. Praise god.
4. I'm an athiest
When I learned math, I had to put the steps neatly under each other so the teacher knew what I was doing. When I taught math, I was told that the teacher had to figure out the steps, to prevent copying. Try hanging up on a sales person as an analytic
I must be doing something wrong. That said, sometimes even a blatant "I don't want to talk about that' seems to cause a pause for a moment, and then another door is found to speak about the same topic.
Indeed. It does bother me that much. I seem to spend my life having people want to discuss religious with me and the topic bores me to tears.
Try making some business cards that tell people you refuse to speak about religion - you keep your religion and I'll keep mine. Otherwise we can't be friends. Hand them out whenever someone starts talking religion.
I would just stop talking to her period. Is she needs to say something to you, she should relay through her son. Leave the house when she comes over, basically just ignore her completely. Maybe she'll figure it out some day, but I doubt it.
In my own situation, I just told my sister one day I wasn't ever going to speak to my brother-n-law again, and that I would never come to her house while he was there. Depends on how strong your relationship is with hubby. Mine is strong with sister.
It's strong but he is a momma's boy. She babies him and He loves her very much. I don't want them to argue because ofme even though I know he fully supports me
Maybe you should get another dog??? She can always pray away her allergies. LOL!
I like that. And it's not offensive at all. If I keep repeating it, it may sink in. :)
I wish all religious people thought that way. Then I have no issue. I have issues when, out of the blue, make statements or ask questions in order to stop 'sharing their faith.' I find it deeply offensive, and I do not want those people in my life.
If only they would be content with that...
Carrie, I am deleting all your comments plus those of other Christians who are trolling me. And you are trolling me. Make no mistake. I asked a question which is polite.My hubs are written for atheists.
You can't handle the truth is what it is. You have to censor what you don't agree with. You saying Christians should stop talking about religion while you keep doing it?! Is what would be considered trolling! What happened to free speech. Dictator.
roob - she is not talking about religion, she is talking about atheism. That's what YOU cannot tolerate. Your comments are deleted because you won't answer the question, you just want to preach and call names.
John - People are so incredibly different that we can't generalize what is a "good" topic for a conversation. Some enjoy arguing over sports and politics, some see a good pastime in questioning others' belief or a lack of it. Just humans I guess.
She is not talking about theism. She is talking how to get other people to stop talking about theism.
AustinStar, it really appears difficult to get religionists to understand that they are the ones who keep bringing up the topic and that it is virtually impossible to get them to drop the topic politely.
That's a really good response. I was on the bus earlier and the lady next to me started talking to me - first about how boss made R50 million, then what a strong believer she is and she doesn't believe that God gave her mother dementia....
"If the person does not take the hint, why worry about any offence.' I've lost six close friends during the last six months because none of them would drop the subject. It's as if my very existence is offensive.
I am sorry to hear that Tessa. That does make it difficult to be yourself. You know, these friends probably think they are 'Holier than Thou'; are you sure they are worthy of your friendship?
Marie, I don't understand why they can't drop the subject, but even though I ask if we can change the topic, they persist. I half suspect that somewhere deep inside I'm a threat to their belief or they are surprised that I'm not a walk over.
I spent 5 years at a religious boarding school, plus ten years as a fundamentalist Christian attending many churches and meeting many Christians. What on earth could you tell me that I don't know and that I don't know from experience?
I never claimed to know more than you. I simply stated that I would not be offended by anything you have to say about God.
Go softly Tessa, We all carry burdens ...sometimes they surface only when we are truly helpless. Prayer begins when human capacity ends. Yours seem to be endless... is it? Be as the yielding tree, or a blade of grass, when you can. Much Love.
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Atheists do not talk or pray to nonexistent gods. So, telling an atheist to pray to god for help is about as helpful as windshield wipers on a submarine.
How does an atheist 'pray' to a non existent god? Which god would that be? Thor? Zeus? Alah? Yehweh? Shiva? Osiris? There are thousands of gods, and none of them answer. I don't want to talk religion. Period. It used to be rude to talk about religion