Believers are almost scared that we will not find proof of God. A typical comment from a believer when asked about God is, "God exists beyond this universe. He cannot be seen. God works in mysterious ways." The Bible talks a lot about faith. Yet I see believers at the doctor's office all the time. In fact, many hospitals are religious. Should scientists stop looking for cures for illnesses? Should we all just rely on faith alone for cures? Why are believers so afraid of what scientists might uncover?
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Then how come every time I bring up Kurt Gödel's perfect scientific proof of God you turn a blind eye?
I do not do that. And Godel's equation is not and never will be proof of a god or gods. Why do you keep insisting that it is?
Duh, cuz it's called an ontological proof.
I only state that Gödel's theorem is on an equal footing with all other theorems. Why should it be solely singled out for special negativity by certain person's?
The only proof of a god or gods would be when one of them shows itself and regrows severed limbs, fixes our ruined climate, cures child cancer instantly, or any other impossible task.
The axioms are questionable. In basic terms, Godel's theorem can be described as wishful thinking at best. Sorry. Nice try though.
Nice try. Godel's theorem is questionable. One would have to assume his axioms are correct. They are questionable. Godel would have to know what God is to come up with accurate axioms.
As usual specious arguments are put forward poo pooing Godel. All math theorems have the same legitimacy until proven false. If any proofs are provided you choose to ignore them or rationalize.
Proof is in the pudding, and there isn't any pudding.
A theorem is just a theory, but a Truth transcends theory with undeniable proof. In this case, only the presence and demonstrations of a God can satisfy that proof. A missing God is not a God