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You know! It took me sometimes to realize where you're coming from. Now, I know. May the Lord have pity on you! Believe me! you will need it! I'm happy to say, as the true children of God. We pray for those who persecute us.
Interesting notion KingdomCome.
To each their own. The only problem I have (I am a protestant) is hearing about all the pediphiles. It gives the religion a bad reputation. I think the church should allow priests to get married and nuns, too
I agree Kingdom Come and so are their "spin offs!"
er. ...who is the blessed virgin? Why appeal to her. Is she a God?
"...it's one of the most spiritual things a Catholic can do..." What kind of spirit? I've never send a Catholic act like they did on the Day of Pentecost when "FIRE sat upon each of them!" They'd throw 1 out w/the reactions mentioned in Acts 2!
Clive, the Blessed Virgin is Mary, Mother of God. Catholics believe that saints can intercede on their behalf. The Hail Mary is a prayer to Mary, asking her to pray for us.
Norine, you don't know anything about this. You're not Catholic.
*GOD SAID is what we should concern ourselves with, not who "knows!" Exd 20:3 "should be" enough for you*! Catholics go against what HE'S SAID by praying to a woman! JESUS "makes intercession" (Heb 7:25) not a woman!
You've been "DECEIVED!"
It's a shame you don't know about any religion but your own. To Catholics, the Blessed Virgin is not a woman. She's the mother of God. We don't pray to her as a God. We pray to her as a saint who can intercede. It's akin to asking her to pray for you
I see NOTHING in Bible that Mary is to make "intercession" for us! How can you just swallow "sink, line & hooker" w/o "STUDYING" what's in Bible? She's not the only one who "found favor w/GOD!" It's a shame u don't know Bible (Exd 20:3)!
You don't see it because whatever sect you belong to doesn't emphasize it. So, here are some verses about intersession: Rev. 5:8, Rev. 8:3–4, Timothy 2:5. If you need more answers, feel free to seek them at your local Catholic church.
I was following along until you got to Timothy which kind of seems to discount the Saints as possible intercessors. Help me out here -- my wife love Mary and the Saints.
Sorry, I should have included the whole thing: 1 Tim. 2:1–4. Really, I think Rev. 8:3–4 is the best one.
Did u keep reading I Tim 2:5 "For there is ONE GOD, & 1 mediator (intercessor) btwn GOD & man (Mary) JESUS CHRIST" (not Mary)!
Rev? Do we live in 3rd heaven today? Hebrews told us to STOP making SACRIFICES & BURNT OFFERINGS (Heb 10:6) bcu
Norine, please seek clarification of intersession at your local Catholic church. I'm sure you'd have fun debating this point with a parish priest. I'm not interested in your psuedo-Christian rants on the Bible. He asked, and I answered. We're done!
You are "done!" Keep offering "sacrifices and burnt offering" in violation of GOD'S WORD in Hebrews, keep getting "sprinkled" for baptism under law (F,S,&HS), keep "hailing Mary," keep taking "communion" (sacrifice), - "DONE!"
Heb 9:10"DEAD WORK
Lisa, thanks -- I just love learning the good stuff. I like in church giving a prayer out to all teachers of the word. They need it. I did some preaching for a while and it sure is easy to criticize them, but not so easy to do.
Go to a priest (man)? (Heb 8:4) That's ur problem! Go to BIBLE! See what GOD SAID & stop listening to DECEIVERS! If u err in 1 (Heb 7:22-28), u err in ALL! Catholics worship under LAW w/burnt offerings & sacrifices! HE died in vain (Gal 2:16-
Clive, that's what I have never understood. Mary is the "virigin". (ha, ha) Why people pray to a dead mortal is beyond me
Me too Frump; especially when I Cor 3:21 says "Therefore LET NO MAN GLORY IN "MEN..."!
I guess that forgot that One!
Hail Mary...i have a problem with that. Hailing Mary in any prayer is blasphemy
That's fine, Clive.
In the same way a country may apply laws that seem strange to us, with humans it is simply a matter of vision. The Heart ... the Heart ...God knows and sees the Heart. All great Souls ask us to be like children.
"Idol god" (Mary)!
Man: The "way of the east" has lost your soul - "idol god" also! Blasphemy - "an old word" so is bible! You hate it too? See - LOST!
I always think that God speaks to me through people. Can't I speak to him through people? Alive or dead would make no difference. Some folk seem to have a closer connection. One time someone asked me to pray for them. Is it different?
"Can't I speak to him through people?" You don't need "people" to speak to GOD! Eph 2:14! Heb 7:25;8:34!
READ or you'll never KNOW!
"Closer connection" bcuz "lazy" - Won't READ!
Clive, the Hail Mary is a request that Mary pray for our sins. It's like asking someone to pray for you.
Most think their dear departed "grandma" can offer prayer for them too but I can't find that in Bible either!
Yes, Clive, I think you're a nice guy, but people can pray for us too. I can pray for you and devout people can. Pray for me too. The secret here is who the prayer reaches. A pure Heart and intention , go straight to the Infinite on our behalf.
"People" CAN'T "pray for me!" Jm 5:16 says "...The effectual fervent prayer of a RIGHTEOUS man availeth much!" Who is "RIGHTEOUS" but one who "BELIEVES" in the "rightly divided" WORD of GOD?
What are so many of us doing praying for each other and lifting each other up? Hey I even prayed that my wife's prayers be heard. If you pray "wrong" you are bad? We can only pray the Lord's Prayer?
IGNORANT! Don't know WORD! Ironically, I've been telling ALL we are not brothers unless we agree with AFTER THE DAY OF PENTECOST! The Bible calls those "the RIGHTEOUS!" People THINK they're Christians but not according to WORD! IT applies to those
Please provide Scripture where "Mary, she urged us to pray the Rosary everyday."
This is not in the scripture. This message was passed over to the three children to cascade to us, during her apparitions at Fatima. May be, you have heard of it!
The "philosophy" of man is not what Scripture says we MUST adhere to; only the BIBLE! If IT IS NOT WRITTEN, it's a LIE! READ Rm 3:4 "Let GOD (WORD) be true, but EVERY MAN a "liar!" Why I quote WORD majority of time!
Yes, saw children in movie.
Norine you are sometimes a bit crazy. "The sky appears blue". That is not in the Bible. But it is very true. Everything we know is not in the Bible. The Bible is not all we know. You being kooky is not in the Bible but it is true beyond any doubt.
Eric: "Philosophical" vs "Spiritual" is what we're talking not physical/natural thgs! Why do you always compare "physical" to "Spiritual?" When talking Bible, it's "Spiritual!" I wish you'd grow "Spiritually!"
Bless you Norine. I just happen to live in life. My buddies in crisis do not want to hear about you. They want life in action. They want love. The Bible is all cool. But it does not bridge the gap. I love. My heart gives hope. Does yours?
Eric:If you just "live in life" (flesh; Rm 8:13), GOD has no part w/you (Rm 8:8)!
"Buddies in crisis" want LIES!
The Bible is GOD Who IS love! If Bible only "cool" but doesn't bridge "gap," YOU ARE LOST!
What "hope" w/o love (Rm 8:24)!
Norine you are goofy. It is all good we need your goofiness. Bless you. But no one can take you seriously.
No one is mature enough in the Spirit (Babes) to take me "seriously!" They need to READ Scripture instead of thinking GOD is ALL "love!" Yes, HE LOVES, but those who love HIM "in the Spirit" and that's where NO ONE is!
So guess what?
Christianity can be understood only from the inside. It is only after personal encounter with Jesus Christ that a man can understand. To criticize from outside, is to criticize in ignorance!
Lois- your answer is so full of lies. There is NOTHING IN THE BIBLE TO SUPPORT YOUR ANSWER. NOTHING.
Christianity is READING Bible and doing as commanded! That's a JESUS FOLLOWER (Disciple/Christian) who THEN changes from the inside after BELIEVING what's READ!
Again, READ the Book of Hebrews & tell me if your Faith defies!
Norine, where in the Bible does it even remotely suggest women do what you do?
EVERYONE who is "IN CHRIST" should do as I do! "GOD is no respector of person" (Acts 10:34)! Acts 2:17 "Daughters will prophecy" (Joel 2:28)!
Why don't you STUDY God's Word? Don't believe NOTHING but WORD when it comes to your SALVATION & "belie
I'm fully agreed with Eric. There are things in the Holy Bible, which are there for only those who have eyes to see.
Well, open your "spiritual eyes" and read the Book of Hebrews then tell me how many things the Catholic Faith defies the WORD of GOD in "their belief" serving "their god!"
The Words of God never grow old. What are in the Law of God stay. There is no such thing as the Old Covenant. A common few try to make things their own way. One can fools himself but not God. The New Testament doesn't change the Law of God
Who told u that? Why don't u READ "Hebrews!"
The New Covenant "fulfilled" the LAW (Old Covenant;Gal 3:23-25)!
Why don't u BELIEVE what's in Bible? Have you been "brainwashed?" I'm telling WORD! You READ!
Jesus Himself said: ''I'm not come to change the law ; but to fulfill it!'' No man has the right to change of what had been written in the law. The law might had written some hundred of years ago. That does not means that the law is old.
And HE "fulfilled" it according to the Book of Hebrews!
Why don't you READ instead of going along with your "traditions?"
Oh yeah, the "law is old" IF you live under "GRACE!" Rm 11:6 "if by GRACE, then is it no more of WORKS, otherwise no GRACE.."