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Are all babies are born "dead in sin" because of Adam's sin, or "original sin?"


Sin is defined as "transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4). But where there is no law there is no transgression - Romans 4:15 What your parents do, or what Adam did, does it make you a sinner at birth? If sin is an act of disobedience to the will of God by choice, then why shift the blame? The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. - Ezekiel 18:20

 

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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    It is true false pagan Catholic concepts and doctrines have infiltrated and hi-jacked what is called "Christianity," and that is why infant baptism is mandated for babies to "cover" them for being "damned" from birth. Of course this notion is false.


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    Catherine Mostly (Misfit Chick) 10 months ago

    Exactly, along with teaching kids that they are ALL born as 'unworthy sinners' - Christianity is actually beating every single one of their followers into submission without laying a finger on them. I used to be a C, and that is SO HARD to see.


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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    True, Adam's sin was his own; no inherited sin (Ezekiel 18:20). Sin is an action, Paul explains this further in Romans 7, also backed up by 1 John 3:4 as transgression of the law. We will ALL be judged for our own sins unless we repent of them.


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    Rich Kelley 11 months ago

    I don't agree with "Moroni" but I do believe that children are not born sinners. Picking a specific age for something to happen is making a lot of assumptions so that is more than likely not right either.


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    Michael-Milec 10 months ago

    Despite the fact that "the oppression of religion" isn't a biblical term, you are right on this one.

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    Norine Williams 10 months ago

    Please give Scripture which says "babies are born innocent?"

    If you can't, wishful thinking!


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    Norine Williams 11 months ago

    Amen! IF we BELIEVE!

    P&N: "The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies" (Ps 58:3)!

    IT IS WRITTEN!


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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    Even aborted babies are innocent. In Jeremiah 19:4 the human sacrifices of children to Baal are called the "blood of the innocent."


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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    Thanks for your comment Benji. God does not cast babies into hell.

    You were blameless in your ways FROM THE DAY YOU WERE CREATED, till unrighteousness was found in you - Ezekiel 28:15


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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    Romans 5:12 states that all became sinners because "all sinned," not because Adam made them guilty of his sin. He brought sin into the world, and that is the way all become sinners. Sin is a choice, not that of Adam or parents.


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    Rich Kelley 11 months ago

    There was no difference between us or Jesus once we were born, it is the choices we made later in life that separated us from God, choices that Jesus when tempted in every way did not chose, resulting in a sinless life.


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    Norine Williams 10 months ago

    Please provide Scripture which says "Babies are born sinless?"


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    Frik Harmse (Harms) 10 months ago

    Babies are not kept accountable for their state, they will go to heaven if they die as a baby. But there came a day in each person's life when he is matured enough to take his own decisions. Then spiritual accountability starts!!


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    Norine Williams 11 months ago

    GOD "looks @ the heart" (understanding) of child! Of course, infants don't understand to come into the knowledge of Christ but GOD determines!

    ALL "must be born again" (Jn 3:7) once they "come into the knowledge" or "understand!"


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    Norine Williams 11 months ago

    Children are born "sinners" yet ONLY GOD KNOWS what age a child has "knowledge" of HIM; for HE "looks @ the heart" (II Sam 16:7)!


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    Rich Kelley 11 months ago

    "Christ died for all of our sins past, present and future."

    This belief can cause an incorrect attitude towards sin. Read the below Hub.

    https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Lisen...

    I agree with your statement about children.


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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    We become sinners once we sin, not before. It is a free-will act of transgression of God's laws that leads to a sin nature by actively and deliberately making sinful choices. We have to accept some responsibility for our lives.


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    Norine Williams 11 months ago

    Really?

    If one is BORN,

    he is BORN a sinner or Bible LIED (Rm 5; Ps 51:5)!


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    PlanksandNails 10 months ago

    Thanks for the answer. Augustine doctrine is deplorable. If you believe you were born a sinner, then you must also believe that you’re not responsible for your sin; there is no escaping this conclusion.


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    PlanksandNails 11 months ago

    How many say, "I was born this way." There is even a song about it. This is the anthem of those who make excuses for their carnal behaviours blaming God that this was how they were made rather than the choices they made.


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    Word (word55) 10 months ago

    Jesus got baptized to experience what man had to go through.


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    Frik Harmse (Harms) 10 months ago

    We have a perfectly righteous God who never expects from anyone something which he is not able to do. Babies wiil only be kept responsible for their own decisions once they can MAKE them.


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    Kiss andTales 11 months ago

    Rich if Jesus was of Adams seeds he could not pay any human life out of death Adam could not save them or their offspring ,a perfect substitute was created by the Heavenly Father ! His son became the second Adam.1 Cor 15:35

    He adopted us .


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    Rich Kelley 11 months ago

    The genetic make up "theory" would mean there is a sin gene. Knowing that Christ was born a man and tempted in every way and did not sin debunks the gene or I was born that way belief. The go and sin no more statement of Christ debunks the sin gene.


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    Norine Williams 10 months ago

    As in the testimony given of a car accident, it's told in "each person's view" but same story! So is Scripture! Christ came, taught, died, ascended! Same story! It doesn't matter "when" written but "what" written! Inspiration fm GOD not timeline


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