1Peter 2:24 has a phrase indicating we are one of these to sin. "Dead to". "asleep to". "sin no more" without reference to asleep or dead to sins. I think it is clear this is not talking about a repentance but something else. My look into Hebrew and Greek analysis leads to more confusion. My understanding right now is that it means sin does not effect us. Which would indicate that though we may sin it does not block us from God. I would enjoy hearing others on this.
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Chris I like how you distinguish the facet; "In this sense". It bears out the context in which this was delivered and by whom. I see Peter as one tending toward rules. So I feel this passage has deeper import, than had it come from Paul.
Norine, I don't think Eric was being critical of Paul. These men, the Apostles, had personalities as well as divine inspiration. Just like with the OT prophets, the message was matched with the man.
Yes Chris that is what I was getting at. And you got me to go have a look at John on this. To me it seems that John is asserting two truths. One applicable to all man. And one of almost an atonement confession. As though we get it, But do better!
David you make me take a look at the tenses involved. The clear indication about past sins and new sins. Thank you
Darling Norene I think I will just go back to deleting you, you have no new news. You are boring and not profiting God. Same ol' same ol' demand to stop human thought. -- just know that I will just start deleting you to spare others.
Norine sorry this may sound harsh but (Prov 3:5 says no such thing it speaks of leaning unto the Lord to guide your brain. In essence you are lying about what (Prov 3:5 says -- yes I will delete someone who spreads false hoods about God's word.
Norine Phil 2:13 says: 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Not "God works in us" that is a false quote you made. Worketh does not mean works how you used it. It means works like a noun. It is complicated
That is cool Paul. Just thought about it, I cannot remember ever sinning while I was praying. Sin is a degree separation. Yet through this the separation is only on our end.
Well said Tim. Thank you. Perhaps man is just fallible enough to sin no matter what. But our close connection with God not being broken, gives us the juice to keep trying to be in His will, through hope. The grace is final, the journey is infinite.
You are welcome while I Thank You for asking the question. I pondered with quiet time and reflected. I think you said it very well with "The grace is final, the journey is infinite".
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Could you help me out with the meaning of "dead to transgressing it"? Means that they will not anymore or does it mean that it does not matter if they do?
Let me show you how GOD "Works!"I had Bible open to Jn 6:63 by "accident?" "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth NOTHING..." who "WORKETH in us"(Phil2:13)" Teaching us"(Titus2:12)which makes us "dead to..."Gal3:27 ("baptized"w/FIRE)
Eric: It always matters if one transgresses it. It means they are born again.
Norine: I already sent you an email. If you want to talk more, read that first.
"Born of the spirit" means baptism w/FIRE as disciples on Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:2) if we obey *last* commandment to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4)! 1 has to "put on Christ" (baptism/FIRE) or"born again"not obey laws which comes naturally IF "born again!"
Norine, I would wager that without Googling it you do not know the what quickenith and worketh mean, They are not the same as do quickly and work. What kind of Bible are you reading from? Do some etymology.
We have sin & must "confess" NOT "repent" cuz "IN" Christ "IF" Obeyed LAST comm.Confess & Repent 2 diff thgs! If I LIE on u, I must "confess" (or apologize) which is "Confess ur sins one to another"(Jm5:16)! Once "IN" JC Deut31:6;Heb13:5 appl
Did the HS tell you that confess and apologize mean the same thing,, are synonyms? Manson never apologized yet confessed. Socrates apologized but did not confess. Use English girl because we know you hate Greek or Latin or Hebrew.
Matt5:23-24"...if u bring ur gift to the altar,&remember thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave ur gift before the altar,& go thy way; first be reconciled (confess) to thy brother&then come & offer ur gift!"CONFESS!
Where in this world's English did you get the notion that reconciled and confessing were the same. Certainly a reconciliation means a balancing of the books.
"OUGHT"=PROBLEM! "No division" or "No bad feelings" so "Reconcile" to the way matters were before disagreement!
I can't have hate in my heart for u & say I love the LORD (IJn4:20)! "CONFESS one to another"(Jm5:16) cuz GOD "sees" the heart !